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On his radio program yesterday, Bryan Fischer quoted Martin Luther King, Jr.'s iconic "I Have a Dream" speech to argue in favor of discrimination against gays.

Citing King's line that he dreamed that one day his children would "live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character," Fischer argued that discrimination based on behavior is justified and absolutely appropriate ... and, as such, "you begin to see the implications when it comes to homosexuality because you're dealing there with issues of content of character and you are dealing with issues of behavior and conduct and it's perfectly appropriate to discriminate against immoral conduct":

Bryan Fischer, Radio Program 83 Comments [5/9/2012 3:04:53 AM]
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#1400801


@Arianna
To everyone saying that heterosexuality doesn't have negative consequences.

Pedophilia
Rape
HIV (and every other STD)
Overpopulation

That's how stupid your pathetic excuse for an argument sounds. Now kindly fuck off.

5/9/2012 11:09:49 AM

#1400805
Lucilius

@dionysus: The late great Molly Ivins used to exhort those fighting the good fight to make sure they enjoyed it, because they were going to lose most battles before winning the war.

@Arianna: Do tell us about the positive effects of bigotry and stupidity. You seem exceptionally well-acquainted with those.

5/9/2012 11:24:43 AM

#1400809
farpadokly

Not really, because a sexual preference is something, like skin colour, that you can't help, and similarly has no bearing on the content of your character.

5/9/2012 11:44:28 AM

#1400811
hatless

@Arianna:
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5/9/2012 11:46:40 AM

#1400813
Misterboston

Yes well if we take the history of thoughts and actions of homosexuals and Christians and line them up side by side, Christians have a LOT more to account for. They have a lot more blood on their hands. Christians have harmed mankind for centuries through torture, ignorance, the suppression of scientific curiosity, the subjugation of women, etc. These are the things they have to defend. Gays only really have musical theater and skinny jeans to account for.

5/9/2012 11:53:59 AM

#1400835
CinnamonGull

@/hatless:
Is that...Eduard Khil?

5/9/2012 1:05:23 PM

#1400836
CinnamonGull

Sorry, double post.

5/9/2012 1:06:24 PM

#1400841
aaa

Just as expected, Bryan gladly shits on the past in order to shit up the present and future.

5/9/2012 1:18:43 PM

#1400850
Martha Jones

Uh, Bryan? You do know that one of MLK's close friends and mentor was a gay man, right?

...right?

5/9/2012 1:44:07 PM

#1400867
ScrappyB

This is the stupidest argument I've ever heard because unscrupulous people can use it to discriminate against whatever behavior they want.

Mr. King didn't specifically mention behavior in his speech, so obviously he meant it's OK to discriminate against baseball players, NASCAR fans and poodle owners.

5/9/2012 2:58:02 PM

#1400878
Arianna

AIDS hadn't even been identified 50 years ago, you fucking liar.

5/9/2012 3:32:14 PM

#1400886


@Arianna
You are in no position to be accusing others of misinformation.

5/9/2012 4:04:08 PM

#1400892
Brendan Rizzo

@ Arianna:

Actually, the Patient Zero of AIDS contracted it in the 1950s. That being said, the notion of it being "the gay disease" was prevalent amongst Fallwellites in the 1980s... which is still far earlier than literally every modern study which proves otherwise. It is also interesting how you ignored everyone else's rebuttal to your original argument, but stayed on to make that pathetic accusation.

5/9/2012 4:35:45 PM

#1400893
brendand

Very well.
Prove to me that gays are immoral
Oh, and I will require at least two sources

5/9/2012 4:50:19 PM

#1400901
Meh

@Arianna

You realize lesbians have the lowest rates of STDs, right? How do you factor that into your, ah, "reasoning"?

5/9/2012 5:21:05 PM

#1400907
tranz2deep

Is it any wonder we hit this man's twaddle with the Orwellian references?

To him, Hatred IS Tolerance.

He sure as Hell proves there's no God, or his hate mongering ass would have been damned decades ago..

5/9/2012 5:35:06 PM

#1400938
Iel

Bryan, I've seen video of that speech, and it made me shake with belief. I can't see it used to discriminate against anyone.

Sex is, if anything, amoral. It has nothing to do with morality at all.

Also, I'd say you should check your Bible for this little chestnut: "Judge not, lest ye be judged."

5/9/2012 7:22:09 PM

#1400941


As much as one would like to marginalize him as a bigoted extremist, he does host a radio show which has been on the air for quite some time now, this means that a significant portion of the population actually believes this drivel.

But in the end, we must also remember that Martin Luther King Jr. was also a Christian clergyman.
It is simply an unfortunate fact that for every Martin Luther King in the world there exists hundreds of Bryan Fischers.

5/9/2012 7:37:24 PM

#1400946
Firewing

@#1400941

In that regard, Martin Luther King Jr. was the exception, not the rule.

Fischer, the rule, perverts Martin Luther King Jr.'s speech to demonize a group of humanity itself, which as the rule, Fischer has nothing in common with.

5/9/2012 8:16:35 PM

#1400950
TB Tabby

If anyone hears a faint humming sound, that's likely Dr. King reaching centrifugal force in his grave.

5/9/2012 9:53:15 PM

#1400953
Frelus

Hm, sorry for the gross misjudging of the phase of "Aids is for gays"-era - I am usually only interested in modern scientific discoveries, modern as in "state of the art", because those are revelant.
I could not care less if some idiots believed that AIDS was only infecting gays 30 years ago, as much as I could not care less that some middle-eastern goat herders thought the relation of the radius of a circle to its circumference was exactly three.
Only that gays are still discriminated against, and about that I do care.

5/9/2012 10:20:55 PM

#1400955
rebel

How about Oscar Wilde?(Personal hero of mine.) Should we judge him for being homosexual, or for his literary talent and intelligence?
How about Micheal Angelo? Should we judge him for being gay or for his masterpiece?
How about Alan Turing? Should we judge him for his relationship with another man, or for his intellect?
I could go on. My point is, if we are judging by deeds, than there are many gay people who are wonderful and some who are not so wonderful, same as any demographic.

5/9/2012 10:44:29 PM

#1400959
Mihangel apYrs

gosh

may we start shunning divorcees, and hypocrites, and haters?

5/10/2012 12:34:01 AM

#1400965
Justanotheratheist

So by your logic a heterosexual serial killer who bludgeons his wife to death because dinner was late is more moral than a homosexual surgeon who loves his partner and would die for him?

Yes, right.

5/10/2012 1:09:19 AM

#1400968
Godlesspanther

I'm afraid that we can no longer afford to keep Bryan Fischer. He will have to be sold for medical experiments.

5/10/2012 1:20:07 AM
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