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Following a religion is a behavior, much more voluntary than sexual orientation.
But, we normal, decent people think it's wrong to discriminate due to gender, ethnicity, orientation, religion, skintone, age, physical or mental disability, etc.
Who's the immoral one; the one who think discriminations are bad, or the one who contrives to discriminate and be smug about it?
5/9/2012 6:32:12 AM
Raised by Horses
Because that's precisely what MLK had in mind when he made that speech.
"I have a dream that one day another miniority will be opressed the way black people have been opressed because... why the fuck not, LOL!"
The mind boggles.
5/9/2012 6:40:23 AM
Unfortunately this guy speaks for the majority. People by nature are hateful and bigoted and if it's not gays it'll be some other group. No matter how much progress is made and how much we push for, bigotry always wins. It's impossible to get people to live together in peace and guarantee equal rights for all.
5/9/2012 6:46:25 AM
"Citing King's line that he dreamed that one day his children would 'live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character,' Fischer argued that discrimination based on behavior is justified and absolutely appropriate"
I really don't think that's what King had in mind.
5/9/2012 6:47:01 AM
I wish this guy would just hurry up and get caught with an underage male prostitute already.
@dionysus, maybe your second sentence applies to the Deep South, but don't lump in where I live, please. Besides, there's plenty of evidence that bigotry doesn't always win....though it always seems to put up a bloody good fight.
5/9/2012 7:34:54 AM
@dionysus, I don't agree. The world is moving, albeit slowly, towards greater equality. Concern for equal rights is debated and fought over in almost every country, which wasn't the case even 100 years ago. Give us time. Humanity is stubbornly stupid in many ways, but we do eventually learn.
As for Fischer, all I can say is that if MLK was here today, he'd bitch-slap Bryan into next Wednesday.
5/9/2012 8:02:53 AM
Wait, somebody gave this rabid dog a radio show?
Doesn't anyone recognize the mentally deranged any more when they see it?
5/9/2012 8:44:00 AM
We can see your character, Bryan, and judge you to be scum.
@dionysus: What Galvatron and Sasha said. When I was a kid we wouldn't even have been holding this conversation. People hate and fear what they don't know. While these laws keep passing in a lot of places, they now fail in others; and where they do pass, it's by narrowing margins. North Carolina's passed with 60 percent, but in 2004 Kentucky's got 75 percent. We're getting there, but nothing worthwhile is easy.
5/9/2012 8:46:02 AM
Logical reason for homosexual conduct to be immoral? Please provide one.
5/9/2012 8:49:38 AM
First, the content of one's character doesn't include aspects over which one has no control such as eye color, left-handedness and sexual orientation.
Second, if some activity is harmful to others, there should be laws against it and those laws should be enforced. There is no evidence that homosexuality is harmful therefore there should be no penalties for it. The fact that the idea of two men together makes YOUR skin crawl is irrelevant.
5/9/2012 8:49:53 AM
"and it's perfectly appropriate to discriminate against immoral conduct"
And yet telling you people that you're disgusting assholes for "protesting" at gay soldiers' funerals is oppressing your freedom of speech.
5/9/2012 8:50:52 AM
"the worlds of King". That sounds like a novel.
5/9/2012 8:52:57 AM
I meant to say "words" (since corrected).
That will teach me to post before I have finished my coffee.
5/9/2012 9:02:58 AM
The problem is that Bryan Fischer's definition of morality will never agree with mine. I don't consider people immoral because of who they choose to love.
I do, however, consider people who judge others based on a 3000 year old book to be immoral.
5/9/2012 9:06:25 AM
So it's ok to judge you on your homophobic discriminatory rants? After all they are immoral.
5/9/2012 9:08:22 AM
At any single moment in time, the vast majority of people on this planet are getting on with each other just fine. Outside my house right now, there are no gunfights, shouts, screams,acts of violence or any other manifestation of hateful or bigoted behaviour and that is the normal state. I'm willing to bet that is the normal situation where you live too. People are simply not as bad as you make out. Yes some people are complete cunts but they are abnormal and as such stand out like tits on the pope which gets them far more notice than they deserve.
5/9/2012 9:10:24 AM
To everyone saying homosexuality doesn't have negative consequences:
At this point, with all the knowledge available, if you are claiming anything other than homosexuality is nothing more than a dangerous fetish, than you are deliberately lying.
5/9/2012 9:22:37 AM
1st: Pedophilia is NOT explicitly gay. There are many heterosexual pedophiles.
2nd: Pederasty is exactly as non-explicitly gay as pedophilia.
3rd: Aids is not a "homosexual-disease". You can be infected by any exchange of bodily fluids, I think even spittle has a (low) chance of infecting you. So has vaginal sex.
Please, saying homosexuality is just a dangerous fetish is dumb with today's evidence, especially since it is not a choice.
Man, that strained my politeness and patience, not breaking off into insulting that idiocy.
Hope you are a poe, though I do not think the chances are high.
5/9/2012 9:48:25 AM
How long would it take you to crack open a dictionary, Frelus?
Pederasty is a FORM of pedophilia, but they are not equivalent.
5/9/2012 9:52:42 AM
Fun fact: Bayard Rustin, one of Dr. King's close allies, was openly gay.
5/9/2012 9:57:53 AM
Arianna, lesbians have the lowest rate of AIDS of any sexual orientation. Therefore homosexuality is good for society.
Also, most child molesters are white, heterosexual males. So heterosexuality is bad for society.
You see how that works?
5/9/2012 9:58:44 AM
Oh, addendum to Arianna:
It was thought in I think the 50's or so that homosexuality was the cause of Aids (I do not know the exact period, just way back in terms of medicine). Why do you guys always pick the facts you like fron 50-year-old studies if there are more modern ones? Maybe becaus the modern ones prove you wrong?
5/9/2012 10:01:39 AM
To everyone saying parenting doesn't have negative consequences:
Chicken Pox (Herpes Zoster)
DO YOU SEE WHAT I DID THERE, NITWIT?
5/9/2012 10:03:34 AM
Fundies Make Me Sick
Can someone murder him? Please? This is a new low for the homophobic bigots.
5/9/2012 10:06:52 AM
@rubber chicken, GalvatronPrime, and Lucilius
Thank you, I needed that. Sometimes I just get so discouraged when the tide of bigotry and ignorance gets way too strong. I know that what you say is true even if it doesn't always feel that way.
5/9/2012 10:34:21 AM
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