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On his radio program yesterday, Bryan Fischer quoted Martin Luther King, Jr.'s iconic "I Have a Dream" speech to argue in favor of discrimination against gays.

Citing King's line that he dreamed that one day his children would "live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character," Fischer argued that discrimination based on behavior is justified and absolutely appropriate ... and, as such, "you begin to see the implications when it comes to homosexuality because you're dealing there with issues of content of character and you are dealing with issues of behavior and conduct and it's perfectly appropriate to discriminate against immoral conduct":

Bryan Fischer, Radio Program 83 Comments [5/9/2012 3:04:53 AM]
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#1400604
Lizuka

Okay, the homophobia is one thing, but that last sentence brings a new definition to redundancy.

5/9/2012 3:25:02 AM

#1400606
checkmate

Fischer argued that discrimination based on behavior is justified and absolutely appropriate ...

But, does Fischer realize that his being a complete and utter asshole puts him on the line for the harshest sort of discrimination?

His behavior is appalling 24/7.

Look out for that boomerang, Bryan, for it's a comin' back at ya'.

5/9/2012 3:29:53 AM

#1400607
Filin De Blanc

Something isn't immoral just because you personally don't like it. It has to cause harm first.

5/9/2012 3:33:25 AM

#1400608
CinnamonGull

Personally, I think that people who dare to quote Martin Luther King to argue in favor of discrimination deserve to be kicked to death. But that's just my opinion.

5/9/2012 3:34:59 AM

#1400610
Paler_Face

The 'Homosexuality==Immoral' meme is strong in this one.
How do sane people get these scripture-munching dingle berries to understand that they don't have to participate in gay sex if they don't want to?

5/9/2012 3:39:53 AM

#1400618
Reynardine

Radio program? I reckon. A guy that shameless probably wasn't wearing any pants.

5/9/2012 4:25:00 AM

#1400620


Wow, way to miss the point of the speech

5/9/2012 4:28:25 AM

#1400622
Mister Spak

""you begin to see the implications when it comes to homosexuality because you're dealing there with issues of content of character and you are dealing with issues of behavior and conduct and it's perfectly appropriate to discriminate against immoral conduct":

Yeah I see the implications. Your character is bigotry and as such discrimination against you is justified and absolutely appropriate. We are dealing with issues of behavior and conduct and it's perfectly appropriate to discriminate against immoral conduct":


5/9/2012 4:30:11 AM

#1400623
Brendan Rizzo

Okay, Fischer went too far this time.

5/9/2012 4:31:18 AM

#1400628
Selkie

Some asshat tried this tack years ago. MLK's family put paid to that horseshit immediately.

But cerebrally-challenged BryBry doesn't learn from the past. Or apparently from anything else.

5/9/2012 4:46:22 AM

#1400635
Ebon

The irony meter just exploded.

5/9/2012 4:54:20 AM

#1400636
Quantum Mechanic

Speaking of behavior worthy of lynching.
String up a preacher today.

5/9/2012 4:55:53 AM

#1400642
Cy

Of course it's perfectly appropriate to "discriminate against immoral conduct".

And as soon as anyone comes up with an explanation for why homosexuality should be regarded as immoral conduct that doesn't rely on "I think it's icky!" (not actually relevant to morality in any way) and "God said so!" (because until someone can provide any actual evidence for the existence of a deity, evidence for his/her/hir/their/etc view of homosexuality and a reason for accepting that deity/ies opinion other than "might makes right", that's not actually relevant either) I will happily change my mind on the subject.

Since I am fairly confident that will never happen, I'm left to conclude that a) causing harm to people, except where unavoidable or he lesser of two evils, is immoral; b) discriminating against LGBTQ people causes them great harm, c) not discriminating against them doesn't harm anyone, and therefore d) discriminating against them is immoral behaviour.

5/9/2012 4:57:57 AM

#1400648
Frelus

You just took the words of a fighter for equality and turned them into a meaning that justifies discrimination?
I do not know what to say...

5/9/2012 5:04:31 AM

#1400649
Xotan

"as ye would that men would do unto you, do you also unto them in like manner"

Take this together with "Judge not lest you also be judged".

Where does this allow for discrimination of any kind? Or did Jesus get it wrong resulting in a contradiction of scriptures? No. I think rather it is Fischer twisting meanings to suit his agenda - the Homophobe Agenda.

You don't have much wriggle room for your blatant bigotry. what is worse, you are using the words of someone who fought against bigotry and hatred to bolster your own hatred. I wonder are you capable of realising what a hypocrite that make you.

5/9/2012 5:04:32 AM

#1400651
OhJohnNo

Ugh...

See, music fans, THIS is what "murdering a classic" looks like. Not that cover of your favourite song some other band did, but this guy right here quoting one of the greatest anti-bigotry speeches of all time and using it to promote bigotry.

5/9/2012 5:08:57 AM

#1400655


I think MLK was against cheerful people.

I choose to believe that in his vague remark about judging people by character he meant cheerfulness insted of the infinite number of character traits that could be applied to the sentence.

5/9/2012 5:28:52 AM

#1400657


Except that biological differences, like eye color, dominant hand, and sexual orientation don't fall into the categories of character or morality.

5/9/2012 5:34:57 AM

#1400659


Go die in a fire, Bryan.

5/9/2012 5:44:10 AM

#1400660
\m/>_<\m/

faiiiiiiillllllll whaaaaaaaale

5/9/2012 5:47:32 AM

#1400662
Reynardine

Frelus, it means that morally, this man is a cancan without pants.

5/9/2012 5:55:28 AM

#1400666
hatless

I've always been of the opinion that Mr. Fischer is--ahem--compensating for something. Now, I doubt that is the case for all anti-gay zealots, but I suspect he is gayer than boysenberry compote.

5/9/2012 6:01:02 AM

#1400667
Hotspur

We can certainly judge Bryan by the content of his character, can't we?

5/9/2012 6:05:03 AM

#1400674
Doubting Thomas

Bryan, who says you are the one who gets to determine what's moral or immoral?

5/9/2012 6:16:19 AM

#1400677
Dr.Shrinker

Considering how brutally Fischer perverts the words of Jesus when it suits him, perverting the words of King must be equally easy.

5/9/2012 6:26:57 AM
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