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#1395100
"Christians are excluded from many sectors of employment simply because of their beliefs; beliefs which are not contrary to the public good."
9th Commandment ring any bells, Mr Carey?
4/22/2012 9:22:49 AM
#1395115
Mayhem
4/22/2012 9:53:59 AM
#1395125
Leighton Buzzard
It is now Christians who are persecuted, said the former head of the State Church.
4/22/2012 10:29:32 AM
#1395147
IanC
One of this guys complaints is a nurse being asked to remove her cross. No one else was allowed to wear a necklace (sensible really). She thought that as a "christian" she was above the rules, and got in trouble for it. Boo-friggin-hoo!
4/22/2012 11:34:37 AM
#1395160
checkmate
I don't get may way at all times = I'm being persecuted.
I don't have exclusive rights and special privileges = I'm being persecuted.
Somebody else has the right to do something they want, even if I'm opposed to it = I'm being persecuted.
My personal views are not the law of the land = I'm being persecuted.
I have to abide by the same rules everybody else has to follow = I'm being persecuted.
I can't force my will on everybody else = I'm being persecuted.
Oh, you poor poor person, how can I help you?
4/22/2012 12:00:30 PM
#1395162
Doubting Thomas
British fundies have apparently been taking lessons from American fundies, as the language used is very much the same.
4/22/2012 12:05:16 PM
#1395169
Skatepunk
Gee, I wonder why homosexual activists don't like you...
4/22/2012 12:11:20 PM
#1395240
dfmfundies
If it's so perilous to be a Christian in Britain today, why isn't this preacher nailed upside-down to a cross in Trafalgar Square?
4/22/2012 2:57:08 PM
#1395244
Karana
ARGUMENT FROM PERSECUTION
1. Jesus said that people would persecute Christians.
2. I think I'm being persecuated.
3. I'm a Christian.
4. Therefore, God exists and I'm right.
4/22/2012 3:07:51 PM
#1395249
checkmate
@dfmfundies
If it's so perilous to be a Christian in Britain today, why isn't this preacher nailed upside-down to a cross in Trafalgar Square?
Christians live dangerous these days. Traditional values are being persecuted left and right.
Example: this act of daring, of displaying christian values and morals was so threatened that it had to be done in total secrecy, hidden away below ground in catacombs:
It's amazing how they pulled it off without anybody noticing and persecuting them. Just imagine if the media had found out about it.
4/22/2012 3:13:32 PM
#1395254
Old Viking
God damn but it gets tiresome listening to these people whine.
4/22/2012 3:25:43 PM
#1395282
Mech610
@ D Laurier
Well it is actually true that Christians ((Along with most if not all religious groups)) really are persecuted in North Korea. But then again, that's North Korea, and we can't really call that a country, so much as a giant prison camp.
4/22/2012 4:50:01 PM
#1395285
punch
consistently applied equality law to discriminate against Christians.
Then they're not equality laws. I suspect Christians just want special privileges.
4/22/2012 5:01:56 PM
#1395304
tranz2deep
Basically, ever since these assholes ceased to feel they were in charge of all, they compared themselves to the Holy Roman Empire and felt that, since they are not a Holy Empire, they must be under persecution.
4/22/2012 5:47:27 PM
#1395334
Mihangel apYrs
not being allowed to preach at your work colleagues, or discriminate in provision oservices <> "persecution".
Except in the minds of evangelical Xians
4/22/2012 11:14:51 PM
#1395353
Often Partisan
"Christians are excluded from many sectors of employment simply because of their beliefs; beliefs which are not contrary to the public good."
Bullshit.
@ Atheissmo "It's no more true than if I said 70s disco fans were being discriminated against because they aren't allowed to wear medallions nestled in their chest hair."
Haha. Win!
4/23/2012 1:55:59 AM
#1395458
Mister Spak
"He added: "It is now Christians who are persecuted; often sought out and framed by homosexual activists. "
In related news, Nazis were framed by jews and Armenians attacked the Turks without provocation.
4/23/2012 6:10:20 AM
#1395551
Mystik Spiral
4/23/2012 9:13:33 AM
#1395625
Giardano Bruno
As a Catholic, I am wary of commenting on Anglican issues.
But I will say that I know lots and lots of Anglicans I admire, and they all think Carey is an arsehole.
4/23/2012 12:12:05 PM
#1395643
Felis >:3
I don't know what to say about this. I mean, I think there may be a double standard to some degree - but not what this idiot's on about.
I'm talking about things such as this alleged proposed law to force Christian doctors to perform sex change operations (etc.?) even if it is against their beliefs (that is to say, remove the right to refuse).
Now THAT sort of thing I don't think should be allowed to happen. I fail to see how that little bit of religious freedom (provided it is extended to all faiths) is a problem, as long as there are adequate numbers of doctors who will still do that sort of operation.
Thoughts, guys? I'd be interested.
EDIT: Or, rather, it could be argued that religiou minority groups (such as everyone's favourite chewtoy, the muslims) are let off, treated less severely for infringement of the rules, etc.
@Atheissimo: the jewellery incident is a good example, as the argument has been put forward that "it's only a small crucifix on the lapel" and that it seems to me to be more about 'causing offense' than health and safety. Of course, I've gotten half the story but it's something else to bear in mind.
I can see that, too, but either way there are people who'd use legitimate concerns about double standards as a chance to start throwing Christianity's weight around. And since the C of E is a cultural thing, it's very easy to convince the public, who couldn't give two shits about the church, to back them up and jump on the bandwagon because we're tempted to see it as (though to be fair, it sometimes is) part of the degradation of our culture due to being ashamed of it (something which, sadly, is happening). Apparently even Richard Dawkins buys into it somewhat.
Ironic that I'm posting this on St. George's Day. Happy That, fellow Limeys.
Anyway I would be glad to hear your thoughts on this. Agree? Disagree?
4/23/2012 12:39:54 PM
#1395650
Anonyomous #42
@Felis
Hippocratic oath.
They kind of already forfeited their right to their religious beliefs in regards to their work.
Besides, if you're okay with cutting people open and removing and/or adding bits I'd doubt that would be much of a problem for you.
4/23/2012 12:51:19 PM
#1395654
Felis >:3
@42
Mmm. But the law at the minute says they are allowed to.
And, more broadly, there is a double standard, at least according to the Murdoch Machine.
EDIT: that last line about the 'homosexual activists' is ridiculous. What the hell does that even mean?
4/23/2012 12:57:11 PM
#1395776
aaa
Boo fucking hoo.
4/24/2012 1:26:44 AM
#1396854
Ebon
Christians are not persecuted here. Nor are they persecuted in most of the western world. In parts of the MidEast, maybe, but not here.
4/26/2012 2:22:57 PM
#1401202
Plagued
I'm a member of the Church of England and I am ashamed to be associated with this tripe. Christians are not being persecuted - quite the opposite, in fact. People of other faiths or none asking you to not shove your beliefs down their throat is not 'persecution'.
I am deeply saddened that people who call themselves Christian are so happy to stand with oppressors against the oppressed. Even worse is that the higher-ups in the Church are in on the act.
5/10/2012 11:35:53 AM
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