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#1394968
demodocos
What kind of bastard wants to turn women into incubators for undead meat puppets?
4/21/2012 11:39:22 PM
#1394969
ScrappyB: "Anencephaly doesn't cause any additional risks to the mother, so that's not really an issue."
Pregancy is already risky enough on its own.
4/21/2012 11:52:08 PM
#1394970
ScrappyB
@ #1394969
I know, that's why I said 'additional.' It is no more or no less risky for the mother in the physical sense than a normal pregnancy would be.
Of course, I'd imagine seeing your baby looking like it popped out of a horror movie with its cranium sawed off would cause significant mental trauma.
4/22/2012 12:02:03 AM
#1394972
Justanotheratheist
If this is a gift from god then god must be an even bigger swine than previously imagined.
4/22/2012 12:05:59 AM
#1394973
His4Life
What do you guys say to this?
http://proliferesources.blogspot.com/2009/05/baby-faith-dies-at-93-days-doctors-had.html
Or this?
http://blog.beliefnet.com/stevenwaldman/2009/06/he-lived-for-the-most-wonderfu.html
4/22/2012 12:06:07 AM
#1394974
ScrappyB
@ His4Life
I say good for the parents. If they felt carrying the anencephalic fetus to term was the right thing for them, more power to them.
However, if someone feels it is NOT the right thing for them, who are you or Cardinal Dildo to tell them they HAVE to do it?
It is something that should be left to the PARENTS to decide. Not you. Not me. No one else. Because it's none of our fucking business.
4/22/2012 12:12:28 AM
#1394981
Wehpudicabok
You'd think the Onion had written this. It's getting hard to tell parody from reality anymore. Seriously, guys? We can't abort something that doesn't have a brain? I suppose a zero percent tax rate is too high, and people should be abstinent until they have children, right?
Let's take right-wing talking points to their logical conclusions... and then even further past that. I bet I can think of some others. Oh, I know! Not only make all pornography illegal, but make that include anything suggestive of sex, including kissing! DISNEY IS NOW PORN. Also: burn all books that don't have the world "Bible" at least twice per page. (This includes the Bible.)
4/22/2012 12:45:31 AM
#1394982
Neith
H4L, Faith survived that long because she was only missing part of her brain. Her 3 months also wouldn't have been enjoyable from her perspective, and I have to wonder about the mental state of a mother who wouldn't feel empathy for a child who feels pain, unlike the ones who completely lack a brain.
http://babyfaithhope.blogspot.com/2009/05/13-weeks-2-days-old.html?m=1
Looks like the pro-life site lied when they said medicine wasn't part of Faith's daily care.
4/22/2012 12:55:33 AM
#1394986
ScrappyB
I notice that baby is wearing a hat in every one of the images and videos on that blog.
Don't suppose it's because without it, people would be looking for a place to throw up after seeing them?
4/22/2012 1:14:54 AM
#1394992
Pioneer
Dude, what the fuck. What the actual fuck. I'd write more string of expletives here, but they wouldn't be enough. Nothing would ever be enough.
This mas made pregnancy ever scarier. I might have to get rid of my uterus, just because of this. Gaaah.
4/22/2012 2:49:28 AM
#1395007
Stonespiral
I will never understand such cruelty towards life.
4/22/2012 3:39:21 AM
#1395033
ScrappyB
I don't think you can count an anencephalic baby as alive. Sure, it's alive in the biological sense that it eats and breathes and whatnot, but it's never going to be concious. It's just that normal babies aren't terribly responsive for the first month or so either so some people delude themselves into hoping for some kind of miracle that will make their child whole. And even if they do manage to hang on for awhile, what then?
An anencephalic baby will never talk. Never recognize anyone. Never think or feel. Never eat or move around on its own. Never have emotions. Never return your love. It's like a breathing potted plant in the shape of a kid with nothing above the eyebrows. What kind of life is that? It's not a life. It's merely an existance.
4/22/2012 5:34:51 AM
#1395065
Horsefeathers
"'The anencephalics are living human beings... Society, through its institutions, should foster full respect for their human dignity and their fragile and short lives,' wrote Cardinal Odilo Scherer in an editorial condemning abortion that was published in the media."
I support this fully. The good Cardinal here, and fundies around the world, all show that you don't, in fact, need a brain to survive.
/sarcasm
4/22/2012 7:00:34 AM
#1395079
farpadokly
I can just picture the brainless souls in heaven, eternally worshipping God.
4/22/2012 8:21:43 AM
#1395102
Voice of Humanity
Wow, anyone else reminded of Tales of Symphonia? Its not really that appropriate of a comparison, but still this DID remind me of all the "World of Lifeless Beings" stuff.
4/22/2012 9:25:07 AM
#1395103
His4Life
ScrappyB, so now you're judging it based on appearance? You make God want to run and throw up.
4/22/2012 9:26:03 AM
#1395104
J. James
His4Life, your argument is downright sociopathic. How could you?! You are literally arguing that people should be FORCED to carry this abomination because of the PLEASURE it brings them, being with the "baby". What. The. Fuck.
First of all, not everyone is as sick, twisted and perverse as the people in the examples you gave. Almost everyone would be MORTIFIED, if not irreparably damaged, by being forced to deliver that... Thing, then watch as that horror is kept "alive", extending the trauma out, until it dies. You people constantly fucking tout the "damage" abortion supposedly does to mothers, but LOOK AT YOU being such a HYPOCRITE.
Second, you treat this travesty not as something completely unnecessary and avoidable, but as something you MUST go through, lest you become some horrible "modern" person who takes the easy way out. Good lord, woman, do you listen to yourself?! You might as well say that all of medicine is wrong and we should just fucking suffer and die rather than opt for the "EASY WAY OUT"!!
This thread shows aspects of your character that are absolutely horrifying. You advocate such authoritarian, indescribable evils by slapping a perversely saccharine, nurturing face on it. You are a monster, truly, if this is what you really believe.
4/22/2012 9:27:14 AM
#1395107
Anon
>>ScrappyB
@ #1394969
I know, that's why I said 'additional.' It is no more or no less risky for the mother in the physical sense than a normal pregnancy would be.<<
It is actually slightly more risky to the mother. Over half of anencephalic fetuses die before birth. A stillbirth poses slight health risks to the mother (she's carrying a mass of dead tissue in her uterus until labor sets in), although they are not high.
The indicated treatment is of course to induce labor, unless it has started already.
>>His4Life
ScrappyB, so now you're judging it based on appearance? You make God want to run and throw up. <<
Please stop telling God what to do. You do not speak for God, unless you are declaring yourself to either be God or be a prophet. You speak only for yourself and your own opinions.
4/22/2012 9:30:47 AM
#1395108
@His4Life
"providing the family time with their child that these abortionists would take away."
First, they are the ones aborting it... second, they are doing it to avoid the days or even months of heartbreak and despair that making them to go to term would force on them.
Yes, it's fucking heartbreaking that you would argue that they should be forced to undergo months of trauma... but then, you seem to lack any kind of empathy.
4/22/2012 9:37:58 AM
#1395109
@His4Life (again)
"those precious moments the mother could spend with it are irreplaceable."
Those precious moments of despair and trauma as the mother is faced with undeniable evidence that the child they hoped for is a brainless monstrosity that is destined to die are irreplaceable.
"They are a gift from God and who are we to decide that we're going to tamper with that gift?"
Yes, how DARE anyone try to protect the mother from the trauma your god is trying to inflict on them. You are a disgusting piece of work with a complete lack of humanity. Please go die in a fire.
4/22/2012 9:41:32 AM
#1395118
nazani14
@N. De Plume
"What’s next? Decrying the removal of a fetus that is fully dead? "
That's already in some state laws,like Louisiana. After there is no more fetal heartbeat, the mother is supposed to just wait around for it to pass- at work, at school in front of the class she's teaching, wherever. Or, until she develops a serious infection from the necrotic fetus.
4/22/2012 10:05:51 AM
#1395135
Danarth
@His4life
The extent of your ignorance and the lack of empathy you show is quite astonishing.
From the general way you act, I am rather starting to believe you have never actually be exposed to any real suffering in your life. Your own or other peoples.
Might I suggest you try finding out a bit more before you give your worthless opinion on a subject you clearly know nothing about.
4/22/2012 11:12:05 AM
#1395148
Agahnim
@Anon
"Please stop telling God what to do. You do not speak for God, unless you are declaring yourself to either be God or be a prophet. You speak only for yourself and your own opinions. "
QFT.
4/22/2012 11:41:57 AM
#1395170
J. Random Lurker
Ugh all around. This I think just adds more to the idea that people like the Cardinal tend to care about people before they are born--and "screw them" once they come out.
What makes this worse though is that there are many observers who believe that Scherer is not only papabile, but most likely in the position to succeed Benedict XVI as Pope...
4/22/2012 12:12:23 PM
#1395173
Doubting Thomas
There's a reason Christian fundies want babies with no brains to be born. So they can grow up to be Christian fundies, of course.
4/22/2012 12:16:06 PM
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