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Quote# 86966

[on a recent study finding a link between homophobia and repressed same-sex desires]

This isn't science. It's psychobabble mumbo-jumbo, where somehow our potty training or our breast-feeding or our spankings have shaped our most deeply held adult beliefs. The same liberals who complained it was utterly unscientific for Sen. Bill Frist to diagnose Terri Schiavo's medical condition from the Senate floor think it's scientific to guess about the "unconscious" things that conservatives have hidden from themselves inside their own brains. What if you're a religious parent who feels that the homosexual lifestyle is sinful, at odds with what God intended for humanity? These academics don't like to discuss religion, except by implying that religious parents are "controlling" and "authoritarian" and prompt "hateful" attitudes. Secular leftists hate it when conservatives bring religion into politics, arguing it's unfair to say God favors the Republican agenda. But then they turn around and bring science into politics, insisting that science favors the liberal agenda, that "reality has a liberal bias."

Brent Bozell, Joe. My. God. 54 Comments [5/7/2012 6:44:44 AM]
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#1399900
Greater Good

Explain all those conservative politicians and religious figures that get caught having gay affairs, then. Haggard, for instance.

5/7/2012 6:51:42 AM

#1399906
SpukiKitty

Brent Bozell is a Bent Bozo!

Just come out of the closet, forsake your false fundy deity of death, accept Lady Liberty as the Supreme Deity of America In whom We Trust & admit the truth of reality's liberal bias.

5/7/2012 6:57:25 AM

#1399920
Papabear

I have a strong feeling that your definition of "psychobabble mumbo-jumbo" is anything said by psychiatric experts with which you don't agree. Your medical and scientific education must be quite extensive.

5/7/2012 7:24:22 AM

#1399930
Filin De Blanc

How can being gay be at odds with God's intentions for humanity? I thought he was omnipotent. Are you saying we can defeat God's intentions? That's a pretty pitiful god you worship, then.

5/7/2012 7:31:41 AM

#1399937
Mister Spak

"This isn't science. It's psychobabble mumbo-jumbo"

While everyone knows a Sumerian creation myth rewritten by iron age goat fuckers is much better

"Secular leftists hate it when conservatives bring religion into politics, arguing it's unfair to say God favors the Republican agenda. But then they turn around and bring science into politics, insisting that science favors the liberal agenda, that "reality has a liberal bias."

Fundie rightists hate it when liberals bring reality into politics, because reality has a liberal bias.

5/7/2012 7:39:07 AM

#1399939
anonymous

Ted Haggard. Larry Craig. George Rekers. Richard Curtis. John Paulk. Need I go on?

5/7/2012 7:41:16 AM

#1399944
Veras_the_Brujah

I don't know what study he is talking about, but they don't typically measure "unconscious" things. They asked men if they self-identified as "homophobic." They then showed participants gay porn, and measured increases in penis size as measurement of arousal. As it turns out, self-identified homophobes were significantly more likely to be aroused.

See Adams, Wright, and Lohr 1996.

5/7/2012 7:48:42 AM

#1399945
rubber chicken

Science favours reality. You do not understand science or reality.
"Agenda" does not mean what you seem to think it means. You do not understand politics or the meaning of words.
There is no homosexual "lifestyle" and you do not speak for God. You do not understand sexuality or your own religion.
You are so deeply closeted that you would have to pass through two different Narnian border posts just to get to the closet.

5/7/2012 7:48:47 AM

#1399950
Brendan Rizzo

It IS science. The methodology is sound and everything. It also makes intuitive sense. Just deal with the fact that you might be gay, homophobe.

But then they turn around and bring science into politics, insisting that science favors the liberal agenda, that "reality has a liberal bias."

Oh crap, Mr. Bozell knows about this site!

5/7/2012 7:59:28 AM

#1399951
Ebon

You do know that we have actual data on this, right?

5/7/2012 7:59:55 AM

#1399952
Reynardine

Sorry, boy, reality does have a liberal bias and your Republican-loving "Gahd" has no basis in reality.

5/7/2012 8:02:20 AM

#1399960
Thinking Allowed

Idaho senator Larry Craig was a conservative.

5/7/2012 8:18:42 AM

#1399963
Dr. Razark

The right:
"...God favors the Republican agenda."

The left:
"...science favors the liberal agenda, that 'reality has a liberal bias.'"


See, the difference is that science and reality actually exist.

5/7/2012 8:23:26 AM

#1399966
Firewing

For the record, Bozell, you calling events you don't like agendas just makes you look stupid when outside your Christian, conservative echo chamber. I expect nothing less, however, from someone who thinks it's OK to call the President a skinny ghetto crackhead.

5/7/2012 8:28:41 AM

#1399971
Tatsukun

Feel free to attack the methods of the study by conducting a new study and publishing it. What's that? You don't have the first idea of how to do that? Yeah... that's the issue.

5/7/2012 8:34:49 AM

#1399987
Raised by Horses

Sing along with me, folks. "Ted Haggard is completely heterosexual.."

5/7/2012 9:12:50 AM

#1400001
O. Wilde

Yet each man kills the thing he loves
By each let this be heard,
Some do it with a bitter look,
Some with a flattering word,
The coward does it with a kiss,
The brave man with a sword!

Some kill their love when they are young,
And some when they are old;
Some strangle with the hands of Lust,
Some with the hands of Gold:
The kindest use a knife, because
The dead so soon grow cold.



5/7/2012 9:45:23 AM

#1400005


{i}...it was utterly unscientific for Sen. Bill Frist to diagnose Terri Schiavo's medical condition from the Senate floor...{/i}

That's because the last time we checked, Bill Frist wasn't a medical doctor so his opinion was worthless. While the recent study on homophobia and latent repressed same-sex desires is the latest in a long list of studies that reach the same conclusion.
Truth hurts, doesn't it?
Oh, and reality does have a liberal bias.

5/7/2012 9:55:40 AM

#1400006
Dr.Shrinker

Jeez Brent, are you still trying to pretend that you matter to the conservative movement? You're a has-been Brent. Your place has long been usurped by more energetic players. Its time for you to move on to something that really needs your skills.

I hear FOX News is hiring janitors.

5/7/2012 9:56:46 AM

#1400018
Big Jilm

You don't understand science or how it works. It is not at odds with theism unless theism is making the problem (science is the observation of natural phenomena so if god exists, science is the way he "did it").

Goddamn the education level in my country is absolutely depressing. Go make out with your football and leave the "brainy" things for those who have one.

5/7/2012 10:25:17 AM

#1400021
Osiris

Well let's face it, you guys spend a lot of time talking about and thinking about gay sex, fare more than gay people who actually do.

5/7/2012 10:27:21 AM

#1400022
breakerslion

"I reject your psychobabble mumbo-jumbo and substitute my religiobabble mumbo-jumbo!

"reality has a liberal bias."

Please explain the conservative aspect of mutations and hybridization, entropy, growth, geological uplift, erosion, extinction, etc., etc.

5/7/2012 10:42:16 AM

#1400023
Rabbit of Caerbannog



Mumbo? Perhaps. Jumbo? Perhaps not.

5/7/2012 10:43:29 AM

#1400025
Zim

Damn Rabbit of Caerbannog beat me to it. CURSE YOU!!

5/7/2012 10:45:50 AM

#1400029
Sasha

Say hi to Mr. Tumnus for me, Brent.

5/7/2012 10:54:46 AM
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