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You’re not replying to my emails or posting them any more so I have to assume that you are trying to ignore me. This is grossly unfair as you have not allowed me to complete the discussion and left me sounding like a jerk.

I am not at all saying that rape is okay or allowed. My point is that it’s a topic like Hitler that people (atheists) always bring out in arguments for shock value when it really doesn’t fit their point. I admit that I have maybe a bias because I’m a man and frankly I have a hard time imagining that I’d be traumatized for life if a woman forced herself on me. Maybe it’s really different for women but you have to admit that on the surface it doesn’t make a lot of sense for something to be incredibly pleasurable if one person does it to you and horrible if another person does it to you. I admit I might be wrong but I still think it’s probably overblown. There are a lot of worse things (like abortion).

In addition I’m not advocating that God only punishes people who rape Christian women or only protects Christians. What my meaning is is that Christianity makes us strong and that a Christian can stand up to ANY kind of adversery better than a non-Christian because he has God’s strength behind him. You also must remember that God never gives us more of a trial than we can handle. If you have been raped and feel traumatized by it take comfort that God has not abandoned you and that He knows you can get through this.

I’m praying for you all.

Censored One, IAmAnAtheist 63 Comments [4/17/2012 12:21:23 PM]
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#1393683

Tempus

If you're so oblivious that you can't grasp why it bothers people when you say something like this, then do yourself a favor--get rid of your internet access, cancel your telephone service, and stay in your house. Because you're too fucking stupid for human contact.

4/17/2012 4:46:52 PM

#1393688

Loshad

Spoken just like a man who has never managed to give a woman pleasure.

4/17/2012 5:18:33 PM

#1393691

Grogs

"I admit that I have maybe a bias because I’m a man and frankly I have a hard time imagining that I’d be traumatized for life if a woman forced herself on me."

Some super model would put a gun to your head, suck your dick, and then leave. Yes, that's totally what would happen.

Odds are *very* good that if you get raped, it will be another man doing the raping. After he anally sodomizes you, or forces you to suck *his* dick, I think you will have a pretty good idea how a woman would feel. But hey, maybe he'll give you a reach-around and then it's OK because it was pleasurable, right?

4/17/2012 5:45:14 PM

#1393699

Iel

Douchebag.

Seriously, you are a douchebag.

You have no sense of empathy -- Jesus, and I've always thought I was a narcissistic, self-centred bitch. In comparison, you're like some kind of religious sociopath.

Fuck, I don't want to be part of your species anymore.

*wanders off to help start an Apocalypse or two*

4/17/2012 6:50:59 PM

#1393703

\m/>_<\m/

+1 charmanDIAF

to the op: imagine you're getting raped (feel that slimy, squishy honeypot! yum!)
except, it's YOUR slimy, squishy honeypot (your anus).

SODOMY! blasphemy?? yup. harsh? yup again.

(i feel really dirty typing this, but this guy needs a graphic example)

sorry for the capslocking, i may have hit the bottle too hard tonight [exit: stage dive]

4/17/2012 7:14:52 PM

#1393707

Noneofyourbusiness

@Dafuq

They didn't mean it literally. Everyone fantasizes about despicable people suffering bodily harm, it doesn't mean they'd actually do or advocate it.

4/17/2012 7:40:07 PM

#1393711

God gives Christians the strength to be healed by time, maybe, in the distant future.

4/17/2012 8:04:05 PM

#1393714

RinellaWasHere

I had a rampant raging deconstruction of this whole mess ready, but you know what? Fuck it. There will be plenty of people along to call you out on it. Meanwhile, I'll jump on a lesser moment of staggering idiocy.

You say atheists like to bring up Hitler in arguments. Ninety percent of the time Hutler is mentioned in religious arguments, it's accusing people who believe in evolution of agreeing with him. You can't call Godwin's Law when it seems to be your side's favorite tactic.

4/17/2012 8:17:45 PM

#1393726

Firewing

I knew what sort of person this is coming from (a Christian, natch). They're not even trying to hide their sick desires to harm humanity anymore.

4/17/2012 10:48:42 PM

#1393727

Sylvana

Despite the most likely scenario that a male being raped is most likely to be raped by another male. Female on male rape happens too. It is far less likely, and comparatively speaking happens quite rarely. However it does happen.

What makes it worse is that these is an even greater stigma associated with it because of people like in the quote. Society thinks that only men can be rapists, and that if a man is forced to have sex with a woman he must have enjoyed it. As such men who are raped by women very rarely report it, even less than any other reported rape.

It is traumatic for the victims because all rape is a violation of ones most intimate self. Its not about who is penetrating who, it is about violence and control and dehumanization. When you are being raped there is no pleasure for the victim (unless Stockholm syndrome has kicked in but that's a whole other can of traumatic worms). Consensual sex is pleasurable, but rape regardless of circumstance leave deep painful wounds that take many years and lots of counseling to heal. I feel for all victims of rape, especially the men who all to often are ignored and left without any support and help.

4/17/2012 10:51:09 PM

#1393736

michael3ov

I am utterly speechless.

This comment is unbelievable.

4/18/2012 1:25:03 AM

#1393737

michael3ov

@tranz2deep

What makes you think he is an atheist? He obviously isn't, "I am praying for you all". Christians love to go to atheist forums and spout nonsense such as this.

4/18/2012 1:26:50 AM

#1393752

Percy Q. Shunn

Wow, your "god" is almost as much of a douche as you.

4/18/2012 4:13:22 AM

#1393754

Swede

You should have left the argument were it was,stupid; now you are definitely looing like a jerk. Ever hear the phrase "It's better to shut up and let people think you're an idiot, than opening you mouth and remove all doubt"? You just could'nt shut up, could you?

Are only atheists people? From what we see here, it's mostly fundies who bring Hitler up and lyingly state he was an atheist.

Imagine yourself being kidnapped and tied up. Doesn't that sound at least a bit traumatizing? That is what it might feel like to be raped. If that is too hard for you to identify with, then imagine some huge guy raping you. Would that perhaps traumatize you for an hour or so? I read about a fairly recent rape; a woman was raped by six or seven men during a couple of hours, then a friend of her's came in and she thought she was saved. No way; he raped her too. She had to use a wheel chair for several days after that.

Some people like a bit of sado-masochism, ya know. Doesn't mean that we all find it pleasurable to be tied up and whipped.

Rape is not about sex, idiot; it's about power and force and humiliation. Abortion is about as invasive as removing a tape-worm or the appendix. Actually, the two latter removes much more tissue than the former, and the tape-worm is much more alive than the fetus. It might be traumatizing to make the desision to have an abortion, though. Very few, if any, commit to an abortion lightly, regardless of what you people say.

I guess the starving children in Africa are also able to handle dying of hunger and thirst before the age of five. God has, after all, not abandoned them, right?

Oh, btw; ASSHOLE!

4/18/2012 4:31:40 AM

#1393759

Mister Spak

a Christian can stand up to ANY kind of adversery better than a non-Christian because he has God’s strength behind him. "

That's completely false. It's s muslim that can stand up to ANY kind of adversery better than a non-muslim because he has Allah’s strength behind him. Jesus is a false god of a false religion and therefore can't give anyone any strength.

4/18/2012 5:01:35 AM

#1393761

Table Rock

Maybe it’s really different for women but you have to admit that on the surface it doesn’t make a lot of sense for something to be incredibly pleasurable if one person does it to you and horrible if another person does it to you.

I fear for any woman in close proximity to you. This is the kind of logic that rapists use to justify their actions. You disgust me.

What my meaning is is that Christianity makes us strong and that a Christian can stand up to ANY kind of adversery better than a non-Christian because he has God’s strength behind him

What about a Christian rapist?

4/18/2012 5:26:14 AM

#1393773

Boz

Someone needs a good pegging, without lube.

see how pleasurable that is.

Idiot.

Correction, sick, twisted, waste of Carbon. And an Idiot.

4/18/2012 6:01:18 AM

#1393783

Doubting Thomas

frankly I have a hard time imagining that I’d be traumatized for life if a woman forced herself on me.

Then try imagining how traumatized you'd be if a man forced himself on you.

a Christian can stand up to ANY kind of adversery better than a non-Christian because he has God’s strength behind him.

Bullshit. When my dad died, I was saddened but I accepted it. When my fundie mother-in-law's dad died, she had a nervous breakdown from which she still hasn't fully recovered, and that was 10 years ago.

You also must remember that God never gives us more of a trial than we can handle.

Tell that to all the Christians who have committed suicide.

If you have been raped and feel traumatized by it take comfort that God has not abandoned you and that He knows you can get through this.

Why not ask God why he allowed you to be raped in the first place?

4/18/2012 6:36:02 AM

#1393798

OhJohnNo

Abortion is not worse than rape. Murder might be (if we're going to play that stupid game), not Abortion.

When will these people understand that a fetus is not a human being?

4/18/2012 7:14:21 AM

#1393799

farpadokly

Very naive. Misunderstands what rape is: An act of violence whose purpose is to humiliate.
Why doesn't God, instead of offering hollow platitudes through his self-appointed spokesmen, get off his arse and actually prevent some rapes? It's no good agonising about it after the fact.
If I was omnipotent, and had the power to prevent rapes, and omniscient, so that I knew when and were they were going to occur, but did nothing to stop them, but just said, "I never give you more of a trial than you can handle. I haven't abandoned you, I know you can get through this" would I not be rightly seen as a morally defunct monster?

4/18/2012 7:19:44 AM

#1393806

Fundies Make Me Sick

You still sound like an ignorant prick. And you're clearly not an Atheist.

4/18/2012 7:33:24 AM

#1393826

freako104

You are disgusting and so is your god. And per adversity Chrisians seem to baww and whine more than non Christians

Edit: per Hitler: Gott Mitt Uns. You fail

4/18/2012 8:22:59 AM

#1393852

Berny

God's strength is an illusion, much like the placebo effect experienced by people who use homeopathic remedies.
As for your argument that you don't think rape can traumatize a woman for life, let's try another example, since you are heterosexual. How traumatized do you think you would be if a man raped you?
It's a little different when you don't want it, and that, asshole, is the whole point.

4/18/2012 10:16:47 AM

#1393854

Ludd

" I admit that I have maybe a bias because I’m a man and frankly I have a hard time imagining that I’d be traumatized for life if a woman forced herself on me."

OK, now imagine that a man rapes you and tell us how you feel. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.

4/18/2012 10:19:38 AM

#1393855

Rageaholc

Now this is just creepy.

4/18/2012 10:25:12 AM

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