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Why are you willing to tolerate sexual perversion but not racism? In a world with no standards, what makes a malfunction of love higher on your standard than a malfunction of hate? Is an irrational lust and longing to mimic the mating act with a sex with which one cannot mate, at its root, any more or less disconnected to reality than an irrational fear and hatred of a Negro? How do we know race-hate is not genetic? Look at how scorned and put-upon racists are! Can we spare them no cheap Leftist pity? Why don't we simply call racism an alternate anti-ethnic orientation, similar to hetero-toleration, but different?

I know I will hear no rational argument to defend the Leftist position. They do not deal with rational answers. They have one and only one weapon in their arsenal: ad hominem. They will not answer, but they will sneer. I suppose a person who gave a tinker's damn about peer pressure or public opinion would fear to be sneered upon by these professional sneerers. For those professional sneerers ready to ignore my words and to condemn me as a "homophobe" let me just ask, why Oh why is it that no one has ever condemned me (or anyone of mine) as a "sunderophobe" -- even though I condemn divorce more severly than I condemn sodomy, or as an "adulterophobe" -- since I don't approve of cheating on your wife either; or as a "pseudophobe" -- since I don't approve of President Clinton.

Why is this one vice singled out for awe and reverence and glorification? Why is it that the lack of self control in sexual matters, where self control is paramount, is held to be immaculate and beyond reproach, whereas the lack of self-control when it comes to something trivial smoking tobacco is scorned?

John C. Wright, LiveJournal 43 Comments [4/13/2012 2:23:53 PM]
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#1392321
Robespierre

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4/14/2012 3:36:57 AM

#1392343
Filin De Blanc

"Why are you willing to tolerate sexual perversion but not racism?"

Because sexual perversion is fun. Racism is not.

4/14/2012 4:55:41 AM

#1392344
Pule Thamex

What is the world coming to? It's absolutely ridiculous that John C. Wright's thoughts and desires are not immediately acted upon. His barely considered drivel is rightly based on his deluded acceptance of the horrors of the Bible and its myths of a non-existent God, and should be totally agreed with by all similarly minded ignoramuses.

John knows the acme of mankind's intellectual and philosophical genius happened in a middle eastern desert region some time ago. John knows how we have been in decline ever since.

The signs are there for all to see. Look where ye may but all you will see are hospitals, schools, universities and other modern degeneracies.

Where, o where, we ask, where are the vast herds of camels? O where bask the luxuriating herds of women hard at work in their kitchens? Where, o where, can a civilized man find a cool relaxing wallow of goat shit? I defy you to walk down any high street and find an honest-to-goodness beard disarranger. You won't find one because they've been hunted to extinction.

Ah! How John and we all long for the good 'ol days.

4/14/2012 4:56:41 AM

#1392353
rebel

Racism is genetic? My father, who was much older than my mother, grew up in the 30's/40's. He was pretty much taught that Aboriginals and other "colored people" were inferior to white people his entire life. Later in life he married an Indian and even warned her that his family might not, erm, take too kindly to her straight away. Thankfully, they embraced her with open arms.
As far as I know, he had to be taught to be racist. It's not like a white baby immediately rejects every black person who tries to handle it.

4/14/2012 5:29:39 AM

#1392356
Argle Bargle

I love how racists and homophobes portray themselves as heroes fighting against the corruption of society, while in reality they're an embarrassing throwback, desperately trying to rationalize the bigotry they've been indoctrinated with.

4/14/2012 5:37:10 AM

#1392466
lisamariefan

I think you need to reexamine your humanity and look at what each of the condemned things do. See, what you talk of HURTS others. Homosexuality doesn't hurt anyone.

Fucking moron.

4/14/2012 11:47:44 AM

#1392488
Ebon

Firstly, homosexuality was proven to be biological over three years ago. I know you fundies are determined to ignore science but science doesn't care.
Secondly, you say "I condemn divorce more severly than I condemn sodomy". No you don't. You're lying.
Thirdly, we know that race-hate (and homophobia) are not genetic because GENETICS DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY.

4/14/2012 12:43:45 PM

#1392489
aaa

Your analogy is utterly ridiculous.

4/14/2012 12:52:10 PM

#1392504
Old Viking

John, put a sock in it. That vein in your forehead is pulsing again. That can't be good.

4/14/2012 1:28:46 PM

#1392538
nazani14

Most of us would not think about gay sex at all, without you godbotherers banging on about it. That's what "the Leftist position" is- not giving a damn about things that don't affect you.

4/14/2012 2:33:54 PM

#1392591
Agahnim

Why are you willing to reject racism but not homophobia, John C. Wrong?

4/14/2012 5:50:43 PM

#1392696
farpadokly

This misses something fundamental; the issue of choice. If two adults choose and consent to get involved with each other, then they can fuck each other in the ear for all I care. It's not my business and it's not your business.
A much better analogy to racism is homophobia.
And by the way, anti-homophobia is not specifically a "leftist" position. A homophobic socialist is a perfectly plausible being.
As for the "phobes", could it be because divorced people, adulterers, and ex-presidents face considerably less prejudice than homosexuals?
No awe, no reverence, no glorification here. Just minding my own business. Just realising that homosexuality has always existed, and it's ok. It restricts population, and leads to less competition for mates. Good.
Smoking tobacco gives you and people around you cancer. Fucking someone up the arse doesn't. It's obvious.

4/15/2012 4:32:48 AM

#1392791
Polymeron

For the same reason the Left doesn't accept rape as a legitimate alternative sexual orientation: It brings harm to other people.

Seriously, is "do no harm" really such a complicated concept? o_O

4/15/2012 9:57:10 AM

#1392869
Swede

The only irrational here is you, Johnny. Homosexuality is very rational; it's obviously a safety valve against over-population and an insurance that there are always grown-ups available to take care of the offspring, even when the parents are unavailable.

A slight apprehension against strangers is certainly genetic, something that tells us to be wary of unknown people, until we have made sure that their intentions are good. From that to hatred is a fairly long road. Btw, it's not the hatred in itself we scorn, but the mistreatment of the ones you racists hate; the slander and the actions towards them.

Smoking tobacco causes cancer, in the smoker and the ones around him or her. Having consensual safe sex with a person of the same gender does not cause cancer.

We could call you xenophobe, I guess, as you seem to hate everyone that is not exactly like you.

4/15/2012 1:42:16 PM

#1393000
Paler_Face

Why are you willing to tolerate sexual perversion but not racism?

Because people having sex in fursuits while defecating on each other's nipple clamps in the privacy of their own homes doesn't harm anyone.
People acting out their hatred of other ethnicities does harm people.

See the difference?

4/16/2012 2:38:21 AM

#1393373
Alessia

So...he's rational? We aren't? Wow, he's got the best logic ever.

4/16/2012 5:29:24 PM

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abc123

Homosexuality is very harmful to those involved in it, and to everyone whose lives are touched by those who practice it. My own Son was sodomized by a homosexual more than once at the age of 8 years old. Nearly 1/3 of child abuse cases are homosexual in nature, yet homosexuals comprise less than 4% of the population. It destroyed my entire family. You know, I struggle with sin, but I end up ashamed and broken for it. I just could never fathom writhing myself in filth and slime as a lifestyle and demanding that everyone else accept it as good and okay, and moreover, celebrate it!

8/4/2012 1:44:29 PM

#1430910
Dr.Shrinker

@ abc123

It might be helpful for you in alleviating your guilt over your son's abuse if you educated yourself about sexual abuse. First, sexual abuse is about dominating and humiliating another person. It is not about sexual gratification.

Second, the perpetrators of same-sex sexual abuse are unlikely to actually be gay. Many of them have active sex lives with partners of the opposite sex. As previously noted, they do not engage in sexual abuse for gratification. They do it because they want to hurt another person.

I feel for you and your son. I truly hope that you are able to find what you need to achieve peace. Rest assured though, demonizing a particular group of people will not accomplish that.

8/4/2012 1:51:53 PM
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