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Quote# 86823

[Part of a response to a Christian who feels like God has abandoned him]

Yes I am blunt and I know sometimes I can hurt people by being so, but you have to understand that this is not about you, it is about God. You owe Him everything and He owes you nothing, not even the next breath. Have you eaten today? If so then thank God for it. Do you have clothes? If so then thank God. Get out your Bible and start reading it. Read Paul's letters to the churches. Most all of them were written from prison cells. Have you been in prison because of Christ? If so then praise God that you were found worthy of suffering for Him.

Have your efforts brought even one soul into the kingdom? If so then praise God, the angels do every time one soul comes to know God. Even if you don't know of anyone who has come to Christ because of your efforts, the point is you have no idea how God has used you, or if someone you don't know about came to Him because of your witness. However, the kind of witness you gave in the message to me will not win souls.

God has not been defeated by Satan but it appears that you have. Ask God to forgive you for thinking that He has betrayed you. If you are not willing to do that, then at least quit calling yourself a Christian so that you don't harm souls.


ralph, behindthebadge 75 Comments [4/8/2012 3:30:01 AM]
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#1390677
Tempus

Maybe you should ask why he or she feels as if they've been abandoned by God, and then attempt to help them work through it instead of simply rebuking them for feeling lost and alone.

4/8/2012 11:05:06 AM

#1390680
rageaholic

I'm amazed at the utter callousness fundies will resort to to keep their delusions alive. He'd be the type to go a hospital and chastise the cancer patients for not being faithful enough to god. Either that or tell them that their suffering is a virtue. What an asshole.

What's worse is that any time someone objects to what he's saying, he assumes the persons problem is with God not him. Well according to him, God puts people on earth, demands that they deny everything on earth, supress all their urges, live a life of unbearable suffering, and yet he still shows no signs of existance when that could be all they'd need to be faithful servents. Then when someone fails god's sadistic test and can't endure anymore, he punishes them for eternity. Yeah, I'd say God has some splainin' to do.

4/8/2012 11:22:29 AM

#1390686
Canuovea

This is interesting.

Looks like someone doesn't comprehend the nature of the word "covenant".

Remember that deal God supposedly made with the Jews? They listen to his rules and he protects them? The agreement was two sided. Which is why, of course, when things buggered up the Jews (well, priests and whoever wrote those books) blamed themselves for not living up to the covenant.

Feeling abandoned by God is quite a legitimate concern. For those who believe that God is their protector (which was the traditional role given to him).

The idea of everyone being a slave to God is, well, usually found in the crazy fundies. Oh. Wait.

4/8/2012 11:43:21 AM

#1390688
nazani14

The person who is contemplating suicide is pretty much a whiny fundie bigot, too.

However, the truly icky part of this site is that Ralph is a former police officer, who has delusions of being God's little helper and is freely dispensing medical advice.
http://www.behindthebadge.net/index.html

4/8/2012 12:03:55 PM

#1390691
checkmate

Yes I am blunt

Well, you're certainly not sharp, that's for sure.

In fact, I think "dense" is more accurate than "blunt".

Btw, thank you for your Christian love. Have you ever heard the phrase ubi caritas et amor deus ibi est? No, you're probably not very educated, but you might know it as "wherever there is love and caring, there is God". No?

Oh yes, excuse me. All you know is "vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord". Fire, brimstone, Hell, retribution, fear, suffering. That's your christianity.

Let me quote you to yourself: "quit calling yourself a Christian so that you don't harm souls."

4/8/2012 12:12:35 PM

#1390694
John

Have you eaten today? If so then thank God for it.

Why? People eat whether they thank God or not. They starve whether they thank God or not, too. Whatever God does, assuming He even exists, doesn't appear to have anything to do with what you do. There's absolutely no indication that you can get God to do something by thanking Him or praying to Him or going to church or "accepting Jesus in your heart" or bowing toward Mecca and chanting in Arabic or wearing a yarmulke and eating chicken and cheesecake with two different forks. In other words, God either doesn't exist or is irrelevant to us because we have no effect on Him.

4/8/2012 12:19:57 PM

#1390696
TheJebusFire

[Have you eaten today? If so then thank God for it.]




4/8/2012 12:29:06 PM

#1390699
Giardano Bruno

"For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me."

Ralph obviously thinks Jesus was a liberal wimp.

4/8/2012 1:29:28 PM

#1390701
Old Viking

Donatein Alphonse Francois, Marquis de Sade
.. signed ..

4/8/2012 2:13:24 PM

#1390705
Godlesspanther

Hi ralph, I was a devout bible-thumping super-Christian up until I read this piece of shit that you wrote. I have now left the faith and no longer believe in your joke of a god. So have a whole bunch of other people.

Happy Easter, asshole.

4/8/2012 2:51:38 PM

#1390708
Berny

If I have eaten today, it is because I ate food I bought from my hard work. The same goes for the roof over my head and the clothes on my back. Your god has provided fuck all so why thank his non-existent ass?
You, sir, are one brainwashed idiot.

4/8/2012 2:58:43 PM

#1390715
checkmate

Have you eaten today? If so then thank God for it.

Luke 1,53: he has filled the hungry with good things, and the rich he has sent away empty.



Thank you Jesus.

Oh, Jesus, when you get some time off from helping Tebow score touchdowns and blessing 3800 calorie meals at McDonald's for fat Americans, please go back up to heaven and tell Luke to go fuck himself.

4/8/2012 3:19:20 PM

#1390717




remember the Prometheus? these monsters eat their wounded!

4/8/2012 3:35:55 PM

#1390721
Brendan Rizzo

You owe Him everything and He owes you nothing, not even the next breath.

You know, this always bugs me about conservative Christians. Here is a thought experiment intended to refute this proposition via reductio ad absurdum. Imagine that the conservative Christian, for whatever reason, created a robot just as intelligent and self-aware as any human being. Does the Christian think that he would have the right to treat said artificial intelligence like a slave, demand that the robot show him absolute obedience, or even deactivate said robot if he felt like it? After all, he created the robot. If you would not allow humans to commit such behavior, then it makes no sense to let God do it. After all, calling God good is meaningless if he can do anything he wants without being condemned for actions a human would commit. If God is omnibenevolent, then he wouldn't act like a barbaric Bronze Age warlord. Why is it so difficult for fundamentalists to understand this?

4/8/2012 4:18:27 PM

#1390722
farpadokly

Wow, I just checked out that site. Frightening. He has tons of suicidal, desperate people emailing him and he gives them all responses like the above.
Isn't it awful that people are so desperate that they even email some Christian lunatic who will only offer them subservience and masochism, as above, rather than addressing their actual problems?

4/8/2012 4:20:20 PM

#1390725
clockworkgirl21

Have you eaten today? If so then thank God for it.

Actually, I thank my grandfather for that. He worked for 40 years to make sure my grandmother would have enough money after his death to buy the family a nice Easter dinner today, and many years afterwards.

Do you have clothes? If so then thank God.

My parents bought my clothes for me, so the thanks goes to my parents, not God.

4/8/2012 5:16:33 PM

#1390749
Shadoboy

You know, there's Christians who hate atheists, gays, muslims, jews, etc, etc...

But I thought they would at least like their own fellow Christians.

4/8/2012 9:57:05 PM

#1390753
lisamariefan

Just because you have issues with shame doesn't mean you have to shame people for feeling bad, compounding the problem.

I mean, I'm for chewing people out when justified, but you're just a cocksuckser.

4/8/2012 10:04:12 PM

#1390760
Blue the Thief

@Shadoboy


4/8/2012 10:25:49 PM

#1390766
Justanotheratheist

I probably have to thank some poor bastards in a Chinese sweatshop for most of my clothes, but I bought them with money that I earned. As for the sandwiches I've just eaten, I'd rather thank the people at the bakery who made the bread and the folks at the peanut butter factory for making the...well, you guessed it.

Frankly, your god can kiss my ass.

4/9/2012 12:31:48 AM

#1390782
Raised by Horses

@Shadoboy

Christians can barely get along with each other, let alone people of other religions. Why else the quintillion different denominations? It's because everyone has their own special idea of "proper" Christian values.

If they didn't have Muslims and Atheists to contend with, they'd go right back to judging and attacking each other.

4/9/2012 4:30:45 AM

#1390784
Mister Spak

"Get out your Bible and start reading it."

Do you have a bible? If so, thank Gutenberg. The 15th century inventor, not the Police Academy actor.

4/9/2012 4:31:47 AM

#1390792
Seeker Lancer

God is such a prima donna.

4/9/2012 5:28:47 AM

#1390801
dionysus

Because showing him what a dickheaded slave-driver God is is sure to get the doubting Christian to embrace that god again.

4/9/2012 5:51:40 AM

#1390802
rebel

Wow, that is the doucheist way of saying "It's all part of God's plan" I have ever encountered. There's a reason why people use the simpler one.

4/9/2012 6:15:21 AM
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