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Quote# 86822

[part of a response to someone who is depressed and self injuring]

Take a good hard look at what Paul is saying. He was not only depressed, but he wanted to die. He felt that life was not worth living. Now notice what he says is the reason he felt that way; so that he would learn to lean on the Lord. Now if the Apostle Paul had to learn that lesson, why would we think we don't need to?

Get rid of the sin in your life, then learn to lean on God. Forget the secular diagnosis you have been given, they are not physical and therefore they are not worth living with. Bulimia is also a sin. It is a sin because it shows the self centered nature of the person. The person who is bulimic is concerned about self instead of what God wants. Confess it and ask God to help you. When the secular world gives people these kinds of diagnosis all they are doing is calling sin a disease, which keeps people from going to the place they need to go; the foot of the cross.



ralph, behindthebadge 45 Comments [5/8/2012 3:12:57 AM]
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5/9/2012 8:25:27 AM

#1400755
freako104

I sincerely hope poe. If not Ralph is a moron. And my faith in humanity takes a dive. Please be poe.

5/9/2012 9:27:54 AM

#1400756
aaa

Yet another vulture swoops in to catch the weakest.

5/9/2012 9:33:54 AM

#1400776
Fundies Make Me Sick

Ralph, you are a heartless douchenozzle. Please get off this planet. The rest of humanity doesn't want you here. That is all.

5/9/2012 10:15:36 AM

#1400793
OhJohnNo

I am a little bit of loneliness, a little bit of disregard

Handful of complaints but I can't help the fact

That everyone can see these scars

I am what I want you to want, what I want you to feel

But it's like no matter what I do, I can't convince you

To just believe this is real

- Linkin Park, Faint

EDIT: Come to think of it, this whole song takes on a different light when you see the lyrics as coming from the point of view of a Christian fundamentalist. Intriguing.

5/9/2012 10:43:14 AM

#1400816
farpadokly

It's funny, when Christians say things like "turn to God" what that means in practice is turn to our organisation, our particular church, our institution, that is, turn to a particular group of men, and it usually is men.
Just as "theocracy" is not really rule by God but rule by particular groups of men.

5/9/2012 12:04:01 PM

#1400897
Elia

It never occurs to you that such blind dependence could in fact induce problems in people, does it?

5/9/2012 5:01:25 PM

#1400918
tranz2deep

Fuck. You.

You know the closest thing to that twaddle, ralph?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Hawkeye: "Frank Burns is a Menace!"
Duke: "Whenever one of his patients dies, he says it's `God's Will` or someone else's fault. This time the poor sonuvabitch believed him."
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

This level of refusal to accept medical necessity can get people that truly need medication or therapy killed, and I only wish it were possible for assholes like you to get charged with attempted murder for this tripe, or for Apostolic groups that advise the spouese to kowtow to their abusive, possibly murderous hubbies to be charged with accessory to the abuse and any resulting deaths!

5/9/2012 6:09:26 PM

#1401080


There are really only three types of people who know anything worth a damn about depression and self harm. Mental health professionals, sufferers and those (family, friends etc.) who support them. I have depression, generalised anxiety disorder, mild obsessive compulsive disorder and a drinking problem. And I occasionally self harm. I'm fortunate enough to have loving family and medical support to keep me going and I know first hand how truly and utterly awful it is to bear such problems alone. Actually going to see specialists, getting diagnosed and put on medication saved (and is still saving) me from disaster. So forgive me this response to your interpretation of mental illness as sin:

Shut your pig ignorant fucking mouth and hope to your god that nobody depressed actually pays attention to your drivel. People like you do incalculable harm to others, retard the progress of the human race and tar the rest of the (largely quite pleasant) religious people in the world. You are the eye of Christianity that offends and should be plucked out.

Good day to you Sir.

5/10/2012 6:29:53 AM

#1401097
tmarcl

@Agahnim

What's with fundies focusing on Paul way more than Jesus? It's Christianity, not Paulism.

Technically, it's Pauline Christianity. As opposed to the Gnostic versions and the Jewish versions that existed around the same time. Basically, fundies quote Paul so much because his form won out.

5/10/2012 6:50:48 AM

#1401301
anti-nonsense

as a person with depression and anxiety disorders, go fuck yourself. With a rusty spork.

5/10/2012 6:57:18 PM

#1401321


I had depression and anger issues once too... then I left the Christian church and felt much better.

5/10/2012 8:27:40 PM

#1451335
Quantum Mechanic

Paul was crazy.
What's your excuse?

9/25/2012 3:43:19 PM

#1451338
VioletBeauregarde

No. Just freaking no! My stepfather, who was a pastor and had bipolar disorder, committed suicide because he didn't seek help. I'm still hurting over it...go screw yourself, you insensitive jerks! I say this as a Christian who battles ADHD and anxiety: Screw you for calling emotional and mental disorders sins!

9/25/2012 3:49:27 PM

#1454829
Sharon Young

Faith can play a part. No doubt. But I fail to see how or why one should forsake other mitigating treatments. Otherwise, I can't express any further contempt for this individual.

10/4/2012 3:48:34 AM

#1461821


"Bulimia is also a sin. It is a sin because it shows the self centered nature of the person. The person who is bulimic is concerned about self instead of what God wants."
Can't we just kill God and get it over with?

10/23/2012 4:56:52 AM

#1474467
Someone

As someone who is depressed and self-harmed for a long time, as someone who knows a bulimic, this comment hurt. Bad.

I was browsing FSTDT, giggling at the stupidity, when I found this.

Oh God.

This is, quite honestly, the absolute worst thing you can say.

For years, I blamed myself. HATED myself.

The Internet was a place to escape from that.

Not to be shamed by everyone else, as well as myself.

Because, see, my opinion was worthless. On everything. So when I hate myself, shame myself, say I'm a selfish worthless brat, that doesn't mean half as much as when somebody else says it. Hearing things like this, even in passing, validated years of self abuse.

Thank GOD that I didn't find this last year, when I was even more fragile than I am now. This comment... It hurts. I know that's just me being overly sensitive, I know this is the Internet, but this... This was INCREDIBLY triggering for me. :(

Not cool. Not okay. Seriously. That hurt. I just hope you didn't hurt the recipient of your "advice" permanently.



PS: Since mental illness is a sin, is physical illness a sin as well? Just curious.

11/26/2012 9:46:52 PM

#1520874
PosthumanHeresy

Okay, I think I can say, it is dangerous to the mind to be studying to be a psychologist, reading this website and listening to the album "Antichrist Superstar" at once, because I am having way too many "destroy the universe" thoughts right now.

3/29/2013 4:44:00 PM

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Redd

This really brings horrible memories of my late teens. The intense hopelessness and... WRONGNESS that I felt to the point I felt apathetic and empty. And a psychiatrist reprimanding me for feeling the way I felt and acted, for good measure. I still wonder how I did't end myself. Was it my will or my self-loathing that kept me going?

That "leaning on God" spiel? I personally believe that it is just a lure for indoctrination by taking advantage of the despodent in a misguided attempt to "help"; a delusion of grandeur in thinking of "saving another lost soul" by exploiting the weakened will of the afflicted and not helping them get better and stronger, but to blind themselves and cling to the image of an abstract concept that no one can quite comprehend with the passion of an addiction -- a compulsion. This is what this man seems to be attempting and failing. Fucking disgraceful.

A strong spirit not only needs a strong body, it needs a strong mind to be able to appreciate the spirit of the religion and learn the values it teaches. Making a person think that "everything is in the hands of God, no matter what" only creates conformism and extreme zeal with the likelihood of fanatism, and fanatism -- no matter if it's religious, anti-religious, political or what-have-you -- makes you stupid.

I have actually seen Catholic priests recommending psychological treatment, while still maintaining their dogma. Even those people know.

Piety can only do so much.

4/16/2013 2:51:41 AM

#1537901
Hal Jordan

What the actual fuck. Blaming people for having problems is not fucking ok to any degree at all, shithead.

You are a disgusting human being who does not deserve the right to breathe the same oxygen particles as the tortured soul you have bullied. Shut the fuck up and get back in your hole.

5/11/2013 8:37:13 AM
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