(On an article about Sleep Paralysis)
I'll second that. I know science tries to explain away all supernatural phenomena because they start with the fundamental assumption that reality is bounded by what can be scientifically measured and that there is no such thing as God, devils, etc.
For the last four years, I have unfortunately been under constant attack by demons, especially at night. Though I have never been paralyzed as others here have experienced, I most assuredly have had evil beings enter my room and try to take possession of my body. Sometimes they succeed and the buzzing on my head is so intense that it makes me nauseated. As soon as I awake, I raise my arm to the square and cast them out through the power of Jesus Christ as you have mentioned, and they slowly withdraw.
They generally like to wake me up by creating a wave-like motion on my bed, as if I were sleeping on a water bed (I'm not). There is one really nasty one who has an overpowering sense of evil when he enters my bedroom. I no longer fear them because I know that the name of Christ is more powerful than they are, but they can certainly make it difficult to get a good night's rest.
Don't believe all the hokum about a scientific explanation - in this case the scientists are dead wrong. Evil is real and is gaining greater power as people become less moral.
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"...because they start with the fundamental assumption that reality is bounded by what can be scientifically measured...."
Well duh, that's how science works.
But don't mind me, go back to babbling about demons.
Hallucinations, extreme anxiety and confusion are normal symptoms of sleep paralysis. Nothing you described will impress anyone who ever had it, it's the typical course. Your brain kept REM sleep on after you regained consciousness. Some neurological conditions make it happen more often, (or plain old sleep deprivation) but isolated occurences happen in almost everybody and mean nothing more than scarier-than-average nightmares.
Unfortunately, while most people take only a few seconds after waking up to realise that it wasn't real, your superstition makes you think it's worth dragging into your waking life.
"Don't believe all the hokum about a scientific explanation"
Heck no, believe all the ridiculous twaddle you pull out of your butt instead.
"Reality is bounded by what can be measured"
i like that. if i ever start a business, that's gonna be the slogan
Also: Didnt you put us down for disregarding superstition, then equate science to superstition in order to disregard it?
I have unfortunately been under constant attack by demons, especially at night.
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There's a reason they're called "spirits".
Hey, Plastic Rory! You're here! Ace!
(Uh, she isn't. While we're making Dr. Who references.)
...what type of business would make sense with a logo like that? Something involving meters...
Also, realguy seems to be suffering mainly from confirmation bias, and an actually perfectly understandable distrust of assertions he doesn't understand from people he does not identify with.
...humans will never be able to live in harmony unless we all voluntarily hack our neural processors with futuretech to adapt them to make judgments based on some kind of superlogic instead of tribal trust-identity structures. (By which I apparently mean become cyborg Vulcans?)
Or we're involuntarily brainwashed. Heh.
Has anyone ever invented a utopia that was both theoretically sound and not creepy as hell?
I know that the name of Christ is more powerful than they are, but they can certainly make it difficult to get a good night's rest.
Why would a demon pester a God-fearing Christian? I mean, if you wanted to win someone over to your side, would you do it by creeping into their bedroom and disturbing their sleep? And how come Christ isn't protecting you? Did you ever wonder if maybe he's just tired of you being a God-bothering a$shole? Think about it.
Dude, I believe in there being things inexplicable by science. Hell, I believe in angels -- I meditate and I've met my guardian angel while meditating.
But calm the fuck down. If you're so convinced, line your windowframes and doorframes with salt. If the problem persists, no demons; go get a neuro and/or a psych exam. If it stops, well, your demon problem is gone. *shrugs*
And now you know.
Well, I can't sleep at night because of those damn pink unicorns stomping around on the lawn outside all night. Those critters are loud!
Now, I know that science says there are no pink unicorns, but don't believe all the hokum about a scientific explanation, I know they're there.
When has assuming the supernatural ever increased our understanding of anything? Yes science assumes that everything expressed in physical reality must have a materialistic explanation, and so far that assumption has never been shown to be wrong. Your inability to understand that simple pattern is clearly harming your life, as your superstitions are fueling what is otherwise a well understood neurological phenomenon that nearly EVERYONE experiences at some point in their life.
"They generally like to wake me up by creating a wave-like motion on my bed, as if I were sleeping on a water bed (I'm not)."
I get that sometimes. I used to get it a lot as a kid when I believed in ghosts and it really used to frighten the life out of me. :T I assume it's an effect of sleep deprivation and your heartbeating.
Yeah, I get this too, I was sleeping on the couch once and a huge gorilla jumped off the coffee table onto me. Gorillas are real and gaining more power as something something something dark side something something complete.
Sleep paralysis can be trippy, sure. But imagine... Fundies the primary users of LSD, Peyote, Mushrooms, Mescaline, DMT etc. What great stories we would have here. Too bad Jebus turned water into wine only
This is just ridiculous. For the love of bananas people, there are no demons. It's all completely made-up. If it weren't there would be some actual credible evidence to attest to it, rather than the words of raving loonies.
Seriously, it's absurd how credulous people are. Show me one photograph or videotape of a demon. Just one. There is nothing out there; stop cowering in fear of bogeymen. What happened to rational inquiry? Even non-fundies will readily claim that supernatural horseshit exists. It's high time we as a species said a collective "no" to superstition.
I've had sleep paralysis before, myself. It's pretty much like what he said. It's a very scary thing when it happens to you. The idea of there being demons can come from a sense of some presence in the room. I've also experienced that same sensation. Of course it all goes away when I wake up.
While it is happening all sorts of dream-like thinking enters my head, but it dissipates upon waking up. I can easily see why he thought there were real demons in his room. But they aren't.
The real danger though is that he might hold on to his demon theory cos it validates his religion.
So, guess which one he will choose?
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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