A requirement that all of Georgia's license plates read "In God We Trust"...were among bills filed Tuesday.
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This sounds like a very serious case of "GA Rep. Bill Heath has way too much time on his hands."
Dear Bill, the country/your state has real problems. Why not concentrate on solving those problems instead of wasting your time messing around with silly shit like this.
Get real.
I assume not very many people were willing to pay a dollar for the slogan, but the reverse would generate a revenue stream that would pay off Georgia's budget deficit in no time.
This guy Heath may be smarter than he looks.
1952 issue Five Dollar note:
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(When you see it - or don't - you'll shit bricks, Bill)
So I guess that - pre-1954 - you didn't fucking 'Trust ' in a nonexistent sky fairy, did you?!
--EDIT--
@J. James
But then, that particular memorial - as rightfully visualised on the $5 note - was built to ensure the world would never forget a truly beautiful American. Whose very existence summed up what that country stands for: Freedom.
(emphasis added):
'When I do good, I feel good. When I do bad, I feel bad. That's my religion. '
-Abraham Lincoln
As per Charles Darwin on the back of our £10 note, should there be a new note issued, I'd like to see on the back not only the UK's, but Hull's own Abraham Lincoln: William Wilberforce.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Wilberforce
Opt in? Means people pay cash to promote a religion that is not forced on them.
Now, which of these is not Constitutional?
@Anon-e-moose
That.... I haven't ever seen money that looked so, so beautiful...
Christians, get "in God we trust" the FUCK off our money. We need a new motto. Or how about the old one? Before you fucked with our tradition, which was ruled UNCONSTITUTIONAL by the SUPREME COURT!!
@Brendan Rizzo
"I dunno. I mean, 'In God We Trust' is the national motto and all... it's already on our money. We can't exactly forget that when analyzing situations like this."
Just because something is "tradition", or "historical", does not mean that it's not wrong to do it. This is a rather minor thing, but if we let them cross this line, how do we justify stopping them on something else? Better to stop them now than to fight them later.
C'mon, people! As Anon-e-moose so helpfuly pointed out, "In God We Trust" wasn't part of our nation at all until the 50s. Cold War and all that jazz. That's the same time period that "under God" was added to the pledge of allegiance.
There isn't even an economic excuse for this blatant violation of the establishment clause. Georgia is 82% Christian, and I'm willing to bet that at least a few of those purchased the sticker with the motto. I highly doubt that the other 17% could buy that many.
I urge residents of Georgia to campaign against this bill.
Well, Georgia's licence plates now match our money...?
Still displeased about that by the by. Used to it, but not happy about it.
Motorists can already purchase a sticker with the motto for $1. The sticker can be placed over the usual county name decal Georgia license plates currently sport.
And that's exactly ow it should be.
Sen. Bill Heath, R-Bremen, filed the proposal to reverse that order.
Oh look, yet another self righteous politician with complete disregard of the oath he took to defend, protect, and uphold the constitution.
He proposed the motto would be the default on any license plates manufactured after July 1 but motorists could buy a county decal sticker to cover it if they wanted.
So the good citizens of the state of Georgia who do not wish to disseminate this obvious and sectarian religious sentiment are supposed to pay you for the privledge of opting out?
I am so sick to death of seeing "In God We Trust" everywhere. Why is it that the courts claim it has been stripped of its religious connotations (cite ), and yet every time a fucktard Republican mentions it in some goddamn bill they preface it with a WE WOULDN'T BE HERE TODAY WITHOUT THE CONSTANT MICROMANAGEMENT OF OUR SUPREME LEADER, PRAISE THE LORD! How is that in any way secular?
Bill Heath should resign.
Edit @Checkmate:
"Wipe your ass with Jesus!"
I'd vote for that.
Motorists can already purchase a sticker with the motto for $1.
Can Muslims purchase an official state sticker with "allahu akbar" on it?
Can Buddhists buy one with some appropriate symbol on it?
No?
Why not?
It's on our money? So what? Does that mean it should be put on everything that's government issue? Should we engrave it on bullet heads used by the army? How about a huge billboard on top of the Capitol Building that's lit up at night? There's plenty of room on traffic signs for it. How about writing it on school toilet paper? Wipe your ass with Jesus!
"A requirement that all of Georgia's license plates read "In God We Trust"...were among bills filed Tuesday."
Whereas on Planet Reality...:
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Read it and fucking weep , Bill.
I got better mottos:
E PLURIBUS UNUM
or
Georgia should just stick with whatever goofy state motto they have..."Famous Peaches"..."Live Hick or Die"..."The Devil Came Down & Slept Here"..."We're On Your Mind"...I DUNNO!...
I know the Deep South isn't known as the sharpest tool in Uncle Sam's shed but I hope they vote this down. Rep. Heath wants "In God We Trust" be manditory rather than a nice, optional compromise like with the stickers. I say, SCREW YOU, not everyone believes in God & there's The Establishment Clause, Treaty of Tripoli....WHY DO YOU HATE AMERICA SO, FUNDIES?
I read the quote, and I read enough of the comments.
My opinion: America needs a new motto. The fact that "under God" and "In God We Trust" were added only to make us "not like the commies" does not justify violating separation of church and state.
Of course, now that it has been more than 50 years, changing it would prove extremely difficult.
@ Brendan Rizzo: it does kind of irk me, that that's on our money. It's a tiny annoyance, but I am that kind of person who gets irritated over the little things.
Anyway, If I could print money for a day, I would change it to say "in Vishnu we trust" or "in Persephone we trust", just to see and laugh at the inevitable fundie outcry.
If these people are so dead set on shoving their religion down everybody's throat and using symbolism to make sure everybody knows about their faith, then why don't they go full tilt and just tattoo a huge cross on their foreheads? And their kids' foreheads? Better yet, carve it in with a knife. Deep. On their kids' foreheads too.
You don't need a silly slogan on your registration plate when you have the Holy Cross on your forehead.
Come on Billy, witness Christ, or shut the fuck up. You coward. Get the knife. Carve away. Do it for Jesus. Show your faith, witness your devotion.
Jesus died on the damn thing for you, the least you can do is carve it into your flesh.
That will get you right into heaven. Jesus might even throw in a virgin or two.
And we're another step closer to Dumbfuckistan. Jeebus bless 'murrica.
@Brendan Rizzo
"I dunno. I mean, 'In God We Trust' is the national motto and all... it's already on our money. We can't exactly forget that when analyzing situations like this."
Yeah, thanks to paranoid fucks like Senator McCarthy. It was tacked on to US currency in a harebrained bid to separate the US from the "godless scourge" of Communism.
It's a fairly recent development, and it contradicts the Establishment Clause, so it's not like they can't just change it again. Though I suppose one major reason it hasn't been recalled is because it would be too much a pain in the ass to replace all the bills currently in circulation with the pre-Cold War design. (Not to mention fear of being smacked with the Bible Belt).
Wildly unconstitutional/10
"Motorists can already purchase a sticker with the motto for $1. The sticker can be placed over the usual county name decal Georgia license plates currently sport."
Already pretty iffy if you ask me: an usual bumper sticker, I wouldn't mind; if they want to advertise the fact that they are godbots, more power to them, it makes them easier to avoid. But a government agency selling a religious sticker (and as previous posters said, I'm willing to bet that there are no equivalent stickers for other religions), and not only that but a sticker intended to alter a licence plate and de facto hide some of the information it was intended to display...? That hardly sounds legal to me.
I blame idiots like crazy Joe McCarthy for shit like this. "GODLESS COMMUNISM!", they say so we decided to add In God We Trust as the motto and add it to all our money, removing the unofficial E pluribus unum, which honestly makes a lot more sense.
Georgia's license plates read "In God We Trust"... so we all sit in the back seat and let God be chauffeur.
Does Georgia not realise how idiotic this makes the State look?
This is where religion becomes offensive. As a private matter, it concerns only the individual believer. But this becomes a matter for everyone, non-religious included. I would love to hear the reasoning as to why Lord Krishna, Kuan Yin, Zeus, Minerva, Athena, Dagon, Baal, Satan etc etc are not likewise honoured.
Oh, and which God is being trusted in? Big Daddy, Junior or the Spook?
I think I should clarify that I didn't say I like this situation. I don't. I'm just saying that if "In God We Trust" (which, as this useless Congress has taken pains to point out, is our motto) managed to go on our money unchallenged, then I can see why it would be on here. I'd prefer it if it were not on here, and frankly think it's an embarrassment that the motto of the U.S. was changed from the eminently-sensible "Out of many, one" to an advertisement of how many Bible-thumpers live in this nation. No other country, with the exception of theocracies, advertises how religious they are. It really does kinda irk me.
I live in Indiana. A few years ago, they gave an OPTION to have a plate with that slogan on. Not forced, not required, it's an OPTION. Perhaps the state of Georgia may want to think on that.
... because we all know how Jesus wanted us to shove our religious beliefs in everyone else's faces:
"Thus, when you give alms, sound a trumpet before you in the synagogues and in the streets, that you may be praised by men. Truly, I say to you, you will receive your reward. And when you fast, look dismal and disfigure your face that your fasting may be seen by men. Truly, I say to you, you will receive your reward."
Matthew 6 (The Fundie Bible: Authorized Pull-It-Out-of-Your-Ass Version)
By purchasing a sticker to cover over the "in gawd we trust"; christinsanes have just instituted a dhimmi tax.
"A requirement that all of Georgia's license plates read "In God We Trust"...were among bills filed Tuesday. "
Congress shall make no law regarding religion . . .Constitution fail. Not a surprise for Georgia. They're well known as an anti-American state.
Here in the UK, number plates for cars are strictly controlled by the government's DVLA - especially specific font, and letter size (for speed cameras/police ANPR systems); they don't allow 'custom' plates, and certainly not wording configurations, neither.
Even personalised number plates - which are very expensive - have heavy restrictions on such, re. their wording (i.e. 'TW4T', 'CNUT', 'T0553R' etc), and certainly not of a religious nature, neither.
Like I say, along with our hyper-draconian gun laws (post-Dunblane), and Section 5 of the Public Order Act preventing 'Thoughtcrime' (and thus forced Political Correctness), there's something to be said for our oft-criticised 'Nanny State'.
If it keeps the UK fundie-free , and hyper-secular, there can never be enough religion-destroying legislation, says I.
Question: Does the UK have it's own equivalent of the Westboro Baptist Church? Q.E. and D.
@ LDM:
...the seperation part.
As for the In God We Trust, put a bumper sticker near it with the finisher; "You, on the other hand, are too close if you can read that, so back off!!"
@BrendanRizzo: Read up about the founding of your nation and the constitution. I'd bet you'd be surprised to find out that In God We Trust on the money and the references to god in the national motto is actually a relatively new happening, meant to turn the population en masse against the "threat" of communism post WWII.
Anything on a British car registration plate other than the letters & numbers that are registered to said vehicle: and in any font other than that authorised by the DVLA, is illegal .
And we have a state religion: the Church of England.
Seems that a little kerfuffle arising out of a tammy-huff regarding the wasteful dumping of some Tea, was all for naught then: wouldn't you fundie Christain Repubicans agree...?!
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