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A Texas mother said a haunted house she attended with her son for Halloween did not disclose it was operated by a church and featured images of abortion and suicide, KTRK-TV reported.

Linda Ybarra said she took her 14-year-old son to the "Hell House" attraction in Pasadena expecting to see "the usual Halloween things. You know, zombies and ghouls and goblins, that kind of thing."

Instead, she said, they were confronted with a graphic reenactment of an abortion being performed.

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Pastor Lamont Melrose of Potters House Christian Fellowship Church in Pasadena said patrons are not allowed to leave Hell House early due to safety concerns.

He said the attraction's aim is to convince people to accept Jesus Christ as their savior.
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Ybarra said her tickets did not specify that Hell House was religious in nature.

"You don't convert children like that -- tell them that they are going to hell and things like that," she said. "You just don't do that."


Pastor Lamont Melrose , myfoxdc 74 Comments [11/4/2011 2:51:39 PM]
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#1346177
checkmate

patrons are not allowed to leave Hell House early due to safety concerns.

I hope they can prove that saftey issue. If not, unlawful detention is a serious crime and somebody could sue their pants off in the civil trial that would follow the criminal trial that would send them to jail.


11/4/2011 3:06:49 PM

#1346186
sErgEantaEgis

Hey everybody, let's make childrens Christians by traumatising them!

Thanks a lot fucking asshole. Same thing happened to me as a child. Took me years to get over it.

11/4/2011 3:35:04 PM

#1346192
Firewing

It seems that a lot of these "Hell Houses" are shameless enough to use 9/11 ground zero reenactments (their version of course), saying that it happened because we turned our back on their deity. How inhuman do you have to be to use other people's tragedy for your own ends? Granted, I'm aware that such is par for the course for their lot, but that doesn't stop me from being sickened by it.

11/4/2011 3:58:15 PM

#1346195
gadfly

I'm kind of surprised that she doesn't know what Hell Houses are. I know and I've never been to one.

Maybe a quick google of "Hell House" + "church" would have sufficed.

11/4/2011 4:07:15 PM

#1346197
Randomwolf42

Wait, things like this exist? Seriously? What the fuck?

11/4/2011 4:08:57 PM

#1346201
Pita

@gadfly

Seriously, I'm honestly kind of surprised there are people left, especially in Texas, who don't know what "Hell House" means.

11/4/2011 4:14:41 PM

#1346202
sandchigger

@checkmate - I'm pretty sure they can also be charged with kidnapping, the criminal form of unlawful detention. Also, what do they do if someone has a heart attack or other medical emergency?

@gadfly - from what I've gathered in other reports, it wasn't advertised as being run by a church and was, in fact, advertised as just a haunted house attraction.

11/4/2011 4:15:37 PM

#1346209
farpadokly

I don't get that thing of "not being allowed to leave early due to safety concerns". That sounds like bullshit to me.

11/4/2011 4:25:15 PM

#1346212
Feral Dog

@ gadfly: These things aren't really covered by the news or talked about very often. I first heard about them [Hell Houses] on Something Positive and thought the guy was making it up until I actually researched it.

11/4/2011 4:31:02 PM

#1346218
Blarghonius

Please go back to thinking Halloween is the holiday of Satan. Everything you worthless flesh bags touch turns to shit.

11/4/2011 4:48:21 PM

#1346220
Moondog

@gadfly: Maybe Hell house is a Texas thing. Haunted houses and Spooky World are popular in New England, but Hell House as a religious thing is new to me, too. In any event, unlawful detention in a religious setting has all the markings of a cult.

11/4/2011 4:56:43 PM

#1346229
Berny

Pastor Lamont Melrose of Potters House Christian Fellowship Church in Pasadena said patrons are not allowed to leave Hell House early due to safety concerns.

Had I ever been duped into going in a fake Halloween haunted house like that with my kids, the only safety concerns about leaving early would have been for you trying to stop me.

11/4/2011 5:35:59 PM

#1346230
Arctic Knight

Maybe it was because I lived in Europe for over a decade and have only been back in the States for 3 years now, but this is the first time I've heard of a hell House run by a church. If my children weren't already in their late teens, I might have taken them to a Hell House thinking it was a normal haunted house and not a propaganda-through-fear-and-dishonesty gimmick.

11/4/2011 5:38:36 PM

#1346235
Gloria

You imprisoned a child in a frightening environment due to (probably fake) "safety concerns." Beyond being a completely useless and stupid way to go about your goal, that is despicable and hopefully criminal. Even if the safety concerns were real, you should be in legal trouble - designing a fear-based "attraction" with no easy options for exiting when patrons choose, and apparently no simple, safe evacuation plan is hideously irresponsible. You bring someone into a haunted house, they'd better be able to get out again within thirty seconds of telling you they want to leave. To do otherwise is blatantly abusive.

11/4/2011 6:01:35 PM

#1346242
whoanelly

Well, it's not like a fourteen year old boy didn't know abortion existed, but still, that's pretty disturbing. You know their reenactments of abortions being performed involve a fetus being chopped to bits or fetuses with scissors being stabbed into their brains. I know that I would remember that for a loooooong time. Pastor Melrose, you're sick.
Linda Ybarra, thank you for being sane.

11/4/2011 6:15:57 PM

#1346246
Horsefeathers

"Instead, she said, they were confronted with a graphic reenactment of an abortion being performed."

In an entirely medically accurate manner, I'm sure.

"Pastor Lamont Melrose of Potters House Christian Fellowship Church in Pasadena said patrons are not allowed to leave Hell House early due to safety concerns."

Yeah, sure. Safety. That's it.

"He said the attraction's aim is to convince people to accept Jesus Christ as their savior."

I would have come out praising Satan as my Dark Lord. Then I would have shaken your hand heartily and thanked you for showing me the glory of His work so that I shall know what wonders await us when he overthrows your puny deity and rules the world for eternity.

Then I would have laughed my ass off as your brain melted since your little sham apparently had the opposite effect you were hoping for.

"Ybarra said her tickets did not specify that Hell House was religious in nature."

Yes, well, you can't exactly expect these people to be forthright, honest and upstanding people now can you?

""You don't convert children like that -- tell them that they are going to hell and things like that,' she said. 'You just don't do that.'"

Obviously. Unfortunately these jokers are a bit dense and just don't get that.

11/4/2011 6:21:00 PM

#1346247
checkmate

I remember our evening confirmation preparatory classes at the local parish as a young "ok, whatever" catholic kid. One evening they showed us a horror slide show about the evils of abortion.

I distinctly remember thinking "oh swell, an evening of ill-prepared, totally exaggerated, boring indoctrination."

Well, from the church's point of view the slide show backfired big time. As it turned out, I wasn't grossed out at all and actually found the evening very educational. I learned a lot about abortion and the different methods used.

What I got out of the evening was certainly *not* what the nuns had intended.

11/4/2011 6:30:13 PM

#1346252
Giveitaday

A Texas mother said a haunted house she attended with her son for Halloween did not disclose it was operated by a church and featured images of abortion and suicide, KTRK-TV reported.

Linda Ybarra said she took her 14-year-old son to the "Hell House" attraction in Pasadena expecting to see "the usual Halloween things. You know, zombies and ghouls and goblins, that kind of thing."

Instead, she said, they were confronted with a graphic reenactment of an abortion being performed


I can't generate much sympathy for her, Hell Houses have been around for quite sometime and it's no stretch to find out what they are about, Hell, there's even a movie about it. I dunno, maybe it's just me and where and how I was raised... I thought everyone knew what hell houses were.

Pastor Lamont Melrose of Potters House Christian Fellowship Church in Pasadena said patrons are not allowed to leave Hell House early due to safety concerns.

There is this thing called "unlawful imprisonment" and another one called "kidnapping", I'd suggest the pastor might want to look them up, because "I wanna bring 'em to Jesus" isnt a valid legal argument.

He said the attraction's aim is to convince people to accept Jesus Christ as their savior.


And forcing someone to watch an over the top version of what you want them to think an abortion procedure looks like is going to acomplish that how? You can't scare someone into a belief and any "faith" based on fear is on shaky ground and will fall apart te secondthat fear is gone.

Ybarra said her tickets did not specify that Hell House was religious in nature.

Of course not, being a christian is so great that they have to trick people into it.

"You don't convert children like that -- tell them that they are going to hell and things like that," she said. "You just don't do that."

That's exactly what they do. They scare them and then tell them they havethe ony ting that will keep them safe... just so long as they think/act/believe exacty what they are told to and nothing else.

11/4/2011 7:30:58 PM

#1346254
Hive

A Texas mother said a haunted house she attended with her son for Halloween did not disclose it was operated by a church and featured images of abortion and suicide, KTRK-TV reported.

These are the same people who would probably call Tibetans "savages" and "sick" if they knew about their completely natural Sky Burials.

But it's everyone else who's sick, right, fundies?

11/4/2011 7:34:29 PM

#1346260
moose

"He said the attraction's aim is to convince people to accept geeZeus chris as their savior."

WOW....now that sounds like the most scary haunted house I have ever heard of.

And.....I thought screaming at people in passing cars from the street corner was a silly way to win souls.....this takes the ticket.

11/4/2011 8:13:22 PM

#1346273
Night Jaguar

WTF?!

11/4/2011 8:58:11 PM

#1346274
Percy Q. Shunn


11/4/2011 9:04:20 PM

#1346278
head in the sand

"Everyone else is to blame for me not knowing what this is!"

Google, how does it work?

11/4/2011 9:27:45 PM

#1346279
musicalbookworm

Who doesn't know what a hell house is?

11/4/2011 9:28:23 PM

#1346282
aaa

I don't think you are going to convince anyone with a horror house with a tedious message.

11/4/2011 9:46:21 PM
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