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This is new...and SICK!

Recently I did business with MetLife.

As with many large businesses, I had to send them a W-9 and to fill out a vendor questionnaire. The questionnaire contained typical questions like: "Type of commodity/Services the vendor is providing. "Whether MetLife employee/ Ex MetLife employee, etc."

Then at the bottom, the questionnaire says "Whether Minority Owned / Women Owned / Disabled Veterans / LGB-LGBT Owned." Yes, LGB, LGBT, which I'm pretty sure is referring to LESBIAN, GAY, BI, TRANSEXUAL"

I've always been annoyed about having special rights going to the Minority and Women Owned businesses, but from my understanding, these are "disadvantaged businesses" that need extra assistance.

I have a couple of questions I really need answered:

1. I have never heard of any government law(s) federal state making this any criteria for doing business (unlike the minority thing). Does anyone know if there is any laws on the books, or is this something MetLife is doing on their own? If so, I intend to boycott them forever more (although I'll take their money for this or any other sales)

2. It's no secret that the gay community is much more economically prosperous than the average American, so what is the reasoning for giving special advantages to LGBT?

3. When I mentioned we were a small business, we got a response asking to show proof of this. How does one prove themselves to be Gay or Bi?

4. Would one have to physically participate in sexual acts of members of the same sex qualify for these special rights, or would staring at a dude in spandex for ten seconds be enough for their terms?

All I know, is that many times I've been in a rest stop along the highway, I've found writing on the walls that says "be here at 12:30 am at such and such date for (sick sexual act). When I was younger, I thought it was just some pervert joking around. Now I'm pretty sure those bathroom proposals are indeed sincere. It just amazes me these bathroom writers should get any special treatment.

Your thoughts?

MNDude, Free Republic 64 Comments [7/31/2011 6:01:28 AM]
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#1317013
Doctor Whom

But the same sort of person would defend to the death a company's right to discriminate against LGBT people.

7/31/2011 11:36:51 AM
#1317024
Brandy Bogard

Translation:



OH NO METLIFE DOESN'T DISCRIMINATE AGAINST THOSE DIRTY NIGGERS GAYS WAAAAH

7/31/2011 12:12:08 PM
#1317032


@#1316947: Someone says something, someone else throws a fit about it. Works both ways. Welcome to the internet. Freedom of speech, Fuck Yeah!

7/31/2011 12:31:57 PM
#1317037
Passerby

I'd ask what the hell that question was even doing there, but then I start to think like an insurance provider.

A business owned by a member of a visible minority or the LGBT community is far more likely to be targeted for vandalism, theft, and idiot mobs with eye-offending signs who feel perfectly justified making life difficult for the owner. As such, the monthly rate will most likely get jacked up through the stratosphere. A veteran may also be the target of war protesters, but hopefully not the rowdy kind. Punks and thugs might pick a fight with a soldier because they think it makes them look hard. Rates go up as a result.

If anyone refuses to check the boxes because they know they'll get screwed that's an automatic forfeiture if they ever need to cash in on their policy.

There are no 'special rights' for anyone and I find it amusing you'd make that claim without the slightest idea of what happens if those boxes get checked. The 'special rights' people like you keep going on about never amounts to anything more than the right to go about their day without being harassed.

7/31/2011 12:52:15 PM
#1317045
Zeus Almighty

"When I was younger, I thought it was just some pervert joking around. Now I'm pretty sure those bathroom proposals are indeed sincere, because every time I show up at the stated time a filthy homo pervert let's me suck his dick."

FTFY

7/31/2011 1:35:15 PM
#1317046
shykid

Where does that form even so much as imply checking those boxes gets you special discounts? They're most likely to collect demographics and statistics. I agree with you that giving LGBT people special discounts is wrong—and I'm ridiculously queer—but there's no reason to automatically assume that's what those checkboxes are for. In fact, there are a couple of reasons to assume that's not the case:

First of all, it's too expensive and laborious to go back and double check if every single person is telling the truth on those forms. Even if it weren't, nobody can really tell if you're gay or not unless they sleep with you, and even then it's not that hard to fake attraction and pleasure. That means if those checkboxes were for discounts, suddenly half of their clients would be identifying themselves as disabled black male-to-female lesbian Muslim veterans.

Secondly, anti-discrimination laws that include sexual orientation and gender identity protect straight and cisgendered people from discrimination too, contrary to popular belief. I'm pretty sure giving special discounts to LGBT people qualifies as discrimination against straight and cisgendered people. If you're afraid of being discriminated against because you're a straight and cisgendered, then supporting said anti-discrimination laws is in your best interest. ;)

7/31/2011 1:44:01 PM
#1317053
Old Viking

The most endearing sentiment I've ever seen om a men's room wall is "Piss fast, our crabs swim upstream."

7/31/2011 2:20:10 PM
#1317055


I'm pretty sure that those boxes are for demographic purposes. I'm sure MetLife wouldn't give discounts because if word got out that they did, everybody would check the boxes.

7/31/2011 2:22:18 PM
#1317057
Auratwilight

It's about statistics-keeping, not special rights, you fucking idiot.

7/31/2011 2:31:50 PM
#1317060
sowens

My thoughts are A)this guy is a dumbass, and B)he should probably not express any of his opinions.

7/31/2011 2:48:35 PM
#1317068
Philbert McAdamia

> Your thoughts? <

OK, you asked for it; you got stood up at the rest stop.

7/31/2011 3:05:00 PM
#1317071
Berny

All of those scribbles on bathroom walls are bullshit written by immature individuals and you're an idiot for believing them.
It isn't special rights, you fuckwit, it's a statement saying they will not discriminate with regards to gender, race, or sexual orientation, unlike pretty much the entire Christian Reich movement.

7/31/2011 3:10:57 PM
#1317080
Goosey

They're not getting special treatment. That box is to check whether those groups are, statistically, getting the same treatment as everyone else.

In other words, your understanding is wrong.

7/31/2011 3:57:37 PM
#1317095
Alencon

@derpmaster

They get special treatment. Every response to a government Request For Proposal (RFP) provides special bonuses if you include work for minority and small businesses.

You're not required to do so if you think you can win without the special bonuses, but most large companies try and get small and minority businesses on their team.

If a black, wounded, female war veteran ever starts a small business, that company might well be invited to join just about every team submitting a proposal to the government.

Like a lot of other government initiatives, it's a good idea that may have gotten out of hand.

7/31/2011 5:35:10 PM
#1317105
LDM

Is there anything that doesn't remind you freepers of gay bathroom sex?


7/31/2011 6:23:33 PM
#1317107
derpmaster


They get special treatment. Every response to a government Request For Proposal (RFP) provides special bonuses if you include work for minority and small businesses.

You're not required to do so if you think you can win without the special bonuses, but most large companies try and get small and minority businesses on their team.

If a black, wounded, female war veteran ever starts a small business, that company might well be invited to join just about every team submitting a proposal to the government.

Like a lot of other government initiatives, it's a good idea that may have gotten out of hand.

Not trying to be a dick here but I'm not getting where it's implied that this guy is attempting to bid for a government contract. It sounds more like he's trying to nail down a contract with MetLife and he wasn't happy with something on their vendor questionnaire. For all we know he's bidding to sell them toilet paper or mechanical pencils.

7/31/2011 6:31:10 PM
#1317108
Nowonmai

So, you judge an entire group of people because some moron wrote something on a bathroom wall?

Those who write on bathroom walls
Roll their shit into little balls.
Those who read these words of wit
Eat those little balls of shit.

Have a nice day MNDude.

7/31/2011 6:34:40 PM
#1317109
meh

I'll gladly answer your questions you driveling idiot.
1. Actually, my bad. Not American so might have to ask an American. But I am sure there is a no discriminatory thing.
2. Well, they are way more FAAABULOOUS!! than most so I don't see the problem. Seriously though, what?
3. I believe they were asking to prove you are a small business. I don't know why you thought you had to prove you were gay. Some people don't discriminate you know.
4. Huh? You people sure think alot about naked men and gay sex acts. And they are EQUAL rights, not special. Moron.

7/31/2011 6:35:07 PM
#1317135
John

Spend 30 seconds on Google and get your answer here from MetLife, not from the morons on Free Republic. If you don't agree, sell to someone else. It's their money.

7/31/2011 7:37:22 PM
#1317137
derpmaster

From John's link:

Please note that registration in our supplier database is not a guarantee of business and contracts are not awarded based on diverse certification status.

So there we have it.

7/31/2011 7:42:36 PM
#1317139
Fundies Make Me Sick

LGBT people are a protected class, specifically because of people like you who hold hateful attitudes toward them. That's why they were included in the questionnaire.

Educate yourself and stop being a bigot.

7/31/2011 7:49:31 PM
#1317141
Fpqxz

So let me get this straight: the Freepers are complaining about a private business that which collects its own statistics and allocates contracts based on its own internal (and apparently non-binding) criteria?

Isn't this the type of thing that libertarians and pro-business conservatives typically support? I mean, the real hard-core libertarians support the repeal of anti-discrimination laws because they feel they should have the right to discriminate however they like.

7/31/2011 7:53:15 PM
#1317145
Alencon

@derpmaster

While MetLife may not be directly bidding on a government contract, having diversified suppliers may provide them an advantage when and if they do.

I see the declaration on MetLife's page but I know the government policy and while it's possible MetLife is taking this position because they feel it's the right thing to do, I suspect it's because it gives them a potential advantage when they partipate in government business.

And I believe they do provide government plans including dental and retirement plans. Having disadvantaged suppliers may be a factor in maintaining that business. I don't know for certain but it may.

The disclaimer is simply a safety valve. It allows them to gather diversified supplier information without having to make any committments.

Many states have similar programs. See http://osdbu.dot.gov/about/mission.cfm as an example of a Federal program.

None of this is necessarily a bad thing except I know from experience that it can get out of hand sometimes.


7/31/2011 8:10:02 PM
#1317150
I Read About The Afterlife

Wait? I'm a lesbian! Shouldn't I be a part of this economic prosperity that is apparently raining down on homosexuals!

I mean, fuck. Not only do they NEVER inform on when they meet to decide our agenda, now I find out I'm missing out on an easy way to pay for my college education!

Those bitches!

7/31/2011 10:26:42 PM
#1317207


I'm a straight woman and don't find men in spandex attractive. Can't imagine gay men would be any different.

8/1/2011 3:41:20 AM
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