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#1316734
Whitespirit
Now this is the kind of cnoservapedia which should be highlighted.
7/30/2011 12:16:56 PM
#1316742
aaa
So, you are comparing an intentionally gimped educational system that is quite a substantial part of US economy to a method of waste management and one of the better healthcare systems on the planet. I've got nothing to say.
7/30/2011 12:30:17 PM
#1316743
Veras_the_Brujah
Why does Conservapedia have a problem with landfills?
7/30/2011 12:31:37 PM
#1316745
Not Today
>> Spoken prayer, the Ten Commandments, and sharing of faith are expressly forbidden in public schools' classrooms during school hours
Not sure about other states, but in Texas they're most certainly not forbidden. They just can't be mandatory or distract for teaching. You know, that thing that schools are there for.
When I see 100+ students praying as a group by the flagpole in the morning or in an FCA meeting, it's hard to think that prayer is "expressly forbidden."
I would love to see this guy's reaction to a Muslim student pulling out a prayer rug during class. Just a guess that he'd have a bit of a problem with that.
>>> teaching of morality is implicitly disfavored
Morality as required by the bible, yeah, you're probably right. But morality as in "don't cheat" and that sort of thing is alive and well.
>>> Homosexual indoctrination is common as early as elementary school in more liberal states
Teaching tolerance towards those that are different is not the same thing as indoctrination.
>>> atheistic government institutions
No, they are secular government institutions. Atheistic would say "learn this, there isn't a god." Secular says "learn this" with no mention of a deity.
7/30/2011 12:32:36 PM
#1316746
Angua
What the hell is homosexual indoctrination supposed to be?
If you can have homosexual indoctrination, does that mean you can have bisexual indoctrination and heterosexual indoctrination?
Atheistic government institutions? In the United States? What?
What is this I don't even . . .
7/30/2011 12:34:53 PM
#1316747
TheJebusFire
[ and sharing of faith ]
You mean the sharing of Christianity. You people are perfectly fine with other religions being restricted in schools.
7/30/2011 12:37:37 PM
#1316749
Bollox
Wait, what? .. Landfills? WTF?
Also, seriously wrong use of paradigm, there.
7/30/2011 12:40:25 PM
#1316753
Comrade Potatovich
Hey, Assfly. Yeah, you. Your hatin' on the Fed is startlingly anarchistic. Anarchism is left wing!
7/30/2011 12:43:08 PM
#1316755
Agahnim
Conservapedia claims to love the U.S. (to the point of having the flag in the logo), but apparently hates the document it was founded on. The very first amendment of said document forbids the religious stuff mentioned. The rest of the stuff is pure lying for Jesus, such as the part about homosexual indoctrination. Seriously? Last time I checked the state I'm from, Illinois, is one of the liberal states you speak of, and there was no such thing. Your head is so far up your ass(fly) that your obsession with fundie homeschooling left you completely ignorant of how public schools work.
Also, what the fuck does the Canadian health care system have jack squat to do with anything in the United States? Non sequitur, much?
7/30/2011 12:46:38 PM
#1316758
John
Spoken prayer, the Ten Commandments, and sharing of faith are expressly forbidden in public schools' classrooms during school hours
So what? Kids don't go to school to pray or learn religion, and they especially don't go to school to say your prayers or learn your religion. They go there to learn to read, do math and acquire other life skills. If our kids' schools are under-performing, they sure won't be helped by taking away time from reading and math to practice somebody else's religion.
The fact is, people who want school prayer don't want their own kids to pray. They can do that at home, as they well know. They want to use public schools to proselytize for their religion and make other peoples' kids pray.
7/30/2011 12:57:46 PM
#1316764
shykid
"The failures of underperforming public schools are paradigm of socialism, along with landfills and the Canadian healthcare system."
I had to go back up to Canada to get my back surgery because I couldn't afford it here with my for-profit insurance. "Underperforming paradigm of socialism" fail. Also, non-sequitur much?
7/30/2011 1:28:02 PM
#1316765
Wehpudicabok
"Homosexual indoctrination is common as early as elementary school in more liberal states."
I went to elementary school in California in the nineties. Where was the indoctrination then? There was no coverage of any kind of sexuality at all until the sixth grade, and that was on safe sex practices (heterosexual) and dealing with sexual harassment (also heterosexual). There was no mention of any kind of homosexuality during my public school education, unless of course you count all the times my fellow students called each other faggots (far too often).
7/30/2011 1:29:40 PM
#1316768
Headache
Ahhh Conservapedia - the only thing dumber then Fox News!
7/30/2011 1:35:58 PM
#1316771
GodotIsWaiting4U
They are expressly forbidden IF THE TEACHER IS THE ONE DOING THE SPEAKING/PREACHING/SHARING. This is because the TEACHER is acting as an agent of the STATE, and the STATE cannot endorse an establishment of religion.
7/30/2011 1:49:32 PM
#1316773
Lucilius
@Godotetc.: Well, students are also prohibited from interrupting class and pestering others; it's a classic wingnut/fundie tactic to create some deliberate and obnoxious disruption, then wail that they're being persecuted when asked to pipe down.
7/30/2011 1:58:41 PM
#1316780
checkmate
He forgot to mention that liberals have bad breath.
7/30/2011 2:12:59 PM
#1316785
Shanya Almafeta
Conservapedia: Where landfills are a paradigm of socialism.
7/30/2011 2:25:33 PM
#1316786
Apatheist
Maybe it's got to do with the ratio of money spent trying to kill people vs. money trying to educate people
7/30/2011 2:27:43 PM
#1316787
Horsefeathers
"Public schools in the United States are liberal and atheistic government institutions that employ 3 million people and spend $411.5 billion annually at a cost of $10,770 per student."
This is an absolute outrage!
At least double that should be spent per student.
"Spoken prayer, the Ten Commandments, and sharing of faith are expressly forbidden in public schools' classrooms during school hours, and teaching of morality is implicitly disfavored."
I'll keep this short.
Public school. First Amendment. Morality is your responsibility, not the State's.
"Homosexual indoctrination is common as early as elementary school in more liberal states."
Homosexual Indoctrination 101 must have been a class I missed. Then again, I haven't been in school for many years so things may have changed.
"The failures of underperforming public schools are paradigm of socialism, along with landfills and the Canadian healthcare system."
Damn you Canadians!
*shakes fist*
It's all your fault!. Apparently. Somehow.
7/30/2011 2:39:11 PM
#1316788
Agahnim
@checkmate
So I guess vultures are liberal, considering the fact that they eat dead stuff, which likely results in bad breath. Come to think of it, they tend go after roadkill, so they're pretty much cleaning up people's messes -- that sounds like environmentalism.
7/30/2011 2:40:46 PM
#1316790
Osiris
The first target of the ignorant is education. Face it, you don't hate public schools because they're atheist and don't allow pray. My high school had a Christian Alliance Club, but no Atheist Club, and I probably would have been expelled for forming one. After all, secular =/= atheist, even though atheists are secular.
No, the real reason is because they teach kids the truth. And education is the best weapon against your ignorant religious and political ideology. Conservatism has no basis in reality.
One more side note.
employ 3 million people
Wow, look at all those jobs being created. No wonder you hate education, turns out the government is just as good as creating jobs, if not better, then your vaunted corporate overlords.
and spend $411.5 billion annually at a cost of $10,770 per student.
That may seem a lot, but the government spends $658 billion on the military, over a 50% increase in ten years since the Clinton administration.
7/30/2011 2:48:42 PM
#1316794
Old Viking
Why can't the Canadians impoverish their sick and injured like any respectable country?
7/30/2011 3:10:30 PM
#1316797
Xotan
Public schools in the United States are liberal and atheistic government institutions
--- as required by the Constitution. Read it!
that employ 3 million people and spend $411.5 billion annually at a cost of $10,770 per student.
--- Education does not come cheap. Do you want an nation even more imbued with ignoramuses than at present?
Spoken prayer, the Ten Commandments, and sharing of faith are expressly forbidden in public schools' classrooms during school hours,
--- The constitution - read it!
and teaching of morality is implicitly disfavored.
--- morality is not a school subject. It's a matter for religion. Civic duty is another matter, but I doubt you mean this.
Homosexual indoctrination is common as early as elementary school in more liberal states.
--- Citation please. Even so, it is as well that all students should be aware that there are differences of sexuality that they should be aware of and respect, and those that they should be protected against, such as paedophilia. BTW, homosexuality =/= paedophilia.
The failures of underperforming public schools are paradigm of socialism,
---Your arrive at this conclusion on what basis? What about incompetent teaching and teachers?
along with landfills and the Canadian healthcare system.
--- Huh? Are you mad?
7/30/2011 3:13:00 PM
#1316806
Mech610
You have literally never set foot in the same neighborhood as a public school, have you?
7/30/2011 3:39:57 PM
#1316807
Doubting Thomas
If you'd ever gone to school, you'd know this isn't the case.
And how is a landfill a paradigm of socialism? All I can think is WTF?
7/30/2011 3:42:02 PM
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