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(on Harry Potter).....

This is what concerns me. I read an article written by a former witch - she was of the opinion that things contained in the book are quite dangerous and that many of the spells and the wording contained in the books are in fact based in reality. Her statement was something along the lines of - if JK Rowling was not a witch - she was sure steeped in the traditions and knowledge of the occult enough that she certainly got all the facts right.


Beccasue, Rapture Ready 111 Comments [7/25/2011 3:20:23 AM]
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#1314219
gravematter

Just imagine, every time a Roman said something that they thought was perfectly innocuous, in fact it was a spell that made things fly about, explode, or catch fire. I suppose after a while everyone would be dead or insane. I think we may have hit on the real reason for the collapse of the Roman empire - their everyday language was, unbeknownst to them, intrinsically linked with witchcraft!

7/25/2011 8:42:08 AM

#1314231
Berny

You people have a real difficulty telling fact from fiction. I'll bet you read the satirical article on Harry Potter from the Onion and thought it was factual.
Rapture Ready members aren't known for their critical thinking abilities.

7/25/2011 9:13:24 AM

#1314244
Fawful has seen God has a vagina on top of his penis

@Raised by Horses

It's not "MMMMDCCLXIII" It's IVDCCLXIII (imagine a little line on top of the "IV").

7/25/2011 9:26:14 AM

#1314249


Bet that your witch can't speak any Latin. Neither can you, for that matter.

7/25/2011 9:32:03 AM

#1314250
Osiris

The "spells" in Harry Potter are Latin words that literally do what they say. Rowling admitted that she made up this whole form of magic because her books are fiction, which means "not real".

7/25/2011 9:32:23 AM

#1314254
Teddy

Reparo is a useful spell. Perhaps you should use it on your mind. Until then...

Silencio!

Now, if the magic /was/ real, wouldn't we all be a bit happier after that?

7/25/2011 9:36:06 AM

#1314258
WWWWolf

> I read an article written by a former witch

Why do you always read articles written by former somethings? Why not read articles written by current somethings - that's how you might get information from someone who's demonstrably been involved with the stuff.

Based on the previous track record (e.g. previous FSTDT posts from "former atheists", "ex-gays", etc), there's this off-hand chance that "former" somethings just might be bullshitting. Just saying.

> she was of the opinion that things contained in the book are quite dangerous and that many of the spells and the wording contained in the books are in fact based in reality

Had you actually read the books, you'd noticed one fascinating thing: they don't actually tell how the spells and rituals and concoctions and magic thingymabobs are actually supposed to work. You can't compare something that exists and is well documented (magic rituals performed in real life) with something that's only referenced and left to the imagination of the reader (stuff in the novel).

7/25/2011 9:40:00 AM

#1314261
Brendan Rizzo

Oh yes, I've heard of this. She was a former witch, right? But now she's a fundamentalist Christian? That in itself is a sign that she was never really a witch, because fundies who claim to have ever not been fundies always show total ignorance of what those other beliefs are like. William Schnoebelen, for example, is a proven fraud yet some fundies still hang on to his every word. And since it is perfectly acceptable in fundamentalism to lie for Jesus (and fundies will even admit this fact) I have no reason to believe anything this woman says.

7/25/2011 9:42:31 AM

#1314262
Tempura

I can't get it. Why Harry? He's a kid. What about Sauron? What about Cthulhu? What about Carrie's mo..oh wait.

7/25/2011 9:44:59 AM

#1314269
julian

Was the ex-witch you spoke to Christine O'Donnell?

7/25/2011 9:59:28 AM

#1314286
Old Viking

Stupida extrema.

7/25/2011 10:42:06 AM

#1314287
Murdin

Rapture Ready : Voldemort's best recruitment tool.

7/25/2011 10:44:18 AM

#1314292
musicalbookworm

Since I am a witch I can safely say you're full of shit.

7/25/2011 10:54:59 AM

#1314295
so behind the times

Twilight's the thing to blame for everything now. Haven't you been paying attention?

7/25/2011 11:10:20 AM

#1314297
Papabear

So, she used to be a witch? You let her live? The Babble says you should have killed her back in her witchin' days. Oh, sinful Beccasue for suffering a witch to live!

7/25/2011 11:27:42 AM

#1314299
= POPE =

IGNORAMUS!

Warning! Screen will not prevent child from falling out of window.

7/25/2011 11:33:48 AM

#1314304
big jilm


7/25/2011 11:39:34 AM

#1314317
JonnyTruant

mmmm after having been married to a witch, I can tell you that you and/or your friend are full of shit.

7/25/2011 12:09:11 PM

#1314318
checkmate

Why am I confused here?

In my naive way I would have thought that the possession of faith the God of the Bible and in Jesus Christ would cancel out any believe in the powers claimed by witches.

Doesn't one have to choose between God and prayer on the one side and the power to invocate and conduct the "powers" using spells of guaranteed appplication on the other side?

Is there some kind of Christian polytheism I'm not aware of? Does God battle not only Satan but also the "powers" used by witches?

Looney Tunes folks.

7/25/2011 12:09:34 PM

#1314319
freako104

Why is it every ex-gay/witch(or Pagan)/Muslim/atheist always says the worst things about what they "left" and yet those that still are show the best of it? And no HP is NOT based on reality. And even the facts she got, she made up for the story.

7/25/2011 12:11:40 PM

#1314322
Anon-e-moose

"I read an article written by a former witch - she was of the opinion that things contained in the book are quite dangerous and that many of the spells and the wording contained in the books are in fact based in reality. Her statement was something along the lines of - if JK Rowling was not a witch - she was sure steeped in the traditions and knowledge of the occult enough that she certainly got all the facts right."

This is what concerns me: as pointed out by Osiris, aren't you just talking out of your arse, Beccasue? Because of that - and a little thing called the 9th Commandment - you're going to Hell.

...on the other hand, I couldn't give a flying fuck what happens to you. Because, Beccasue, exactly like we Atheists, you're going to end up doing an impression of leftover pizza: Cold, clotted, and stuck to the bottom of a box.

7/25/2011 12:19:30 PM

#1314328
dionysus

@freako104-
Why is it every ex-gay/witch(or Pagan)/Muslim/atheist always says the worst things about what they "left" and yet those that still are show the best of it?

Well that's just human nature. If you're a part of something, you're going to think it's the best thing in the world and focus on the positives. On the other hand, if you leave something you're likely to have a negative impression left on you as something made you leave. It isn't how negative ex-gays, ex-atheists, ex-witches, etc. are that's jarring, it's how wrong the fakers get their facts i.e. Kirk Cameron claiming he was an atheist because he hated god despite the fact that that's a complete contradiction or this Bozo claiming that Harry Potter is an accurate representation of witches.

7/25/2011 12:41:49 PM

#1314331
SurfinSeaOtter

It's fine to be based in reality as long as they don't pronounce every syllable.

Unless of course they're taking the Necronomicon, in which case the words must be recited perfectly.

Klaatu barada nikto!

7/25/2011 12:46:05 PM

#1314333
Giveitaday

This is what concerns me.

Of course... Why concern yourself with all the real and tangible problems that exist in the world when there is fiction for you to worry about.

I read an article written by a former witch

If I had penny for all the evangelical fundies who claim to be a "former witch/pagan/satanist/athiest/muslim/drug user/smurf etc." then I would be a very, very rich man.

she was of the opinion that things contained in the book are quite dangerous

Really now? If that were in fact the case then surely you should have no problem citing some incident in which soeone was harmed by using the "dangerous" magical knowledge?

and that many of the spells and the wording contained in the books are in fact based in reality.

So why has no one ever used this authentic magical knowledge to win the $1,000,000 offered by the JREF? I highly doubt you can offer anything other than second or third hand hearsay in support of your frankly idiotic assertions. If you expect anyone with even a tenuous grasp on reality to take you even somewhat seriously you are going to have an actual witch casting spells straight out of a harry potter book.

Her statement was something along the lines of - if JK Rowling was not a witch - she was sure steeped in the traditions and knowledge of the occult enough that she certainly got all the facts right.

And what gives her statement assertion anymore validity than my assertion that Beccasue of Rapture Ready engages in necrozoophilic orgies with dead circus bears?

7/25/2011 12:46:37 PM

#1314337
Auratwilight

There is no such things as witches, unless you mean Wiccans or neopagans, in which case you definitely haven't talked to one.

7/25/2011 12:50:34 PM
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