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While I was working a gal at work must have been bothered by a story she saw on the Internet relating to the gay issue and wanted my opinion. Here’s a how the conversation went.

She: I don’t see anything wrong with the gay lifestyle.
Me: Then why do so many gays die if their is nothing wrong with it.
She: It’s not just gays. It’s all of us.
Me: Agreed. We are all sinners. A man and woman that only have had sex with each other will not get aids.
She: Well then that includes you too.
Me:Yes it does. We are all sinners. God loves sinners but hates the sin.
She: I don’t have a problem with gays as long as they are happy.
Me: They are not happy. I have debated feminists on the Internet and they are not happy.
She: How do you know they are not happy. Their lifestyle does not bother me.
Me: Even if they die or help ruin society.
She: There is still nothing wrong with it.
Me: I don’t agree with that at all with how many people that are dying from aids. What website do you get your information from and I will give my information.
She: You are not going to change my mind.
Me: Even if you can be proven wrong.
She: I believe what I believe.
Me: Not if you can’t come up with the websites to support your side.
She: GO AWAY!!! GO AWAY!!! GO AWAY!!! GO AWAY!!! GO AWAY!!! GO
AWAY!!!

Stevangelist, Rapture Ready 48 Comments [10/17/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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#698514
Slayer

"Me: Agreed. We are all sinners. A man and woman that only have had sex with each other will not get aids."

A man and a man that only have had sex with each other (barring things like blood transfusions, dirty needles, ect.) will not get aids either. What does the fact that virgins are incredibly unlikely to have STDs have to do with homosexuals dying though? Oh, and heterosexuals can get aids too.

9/26/2008 6:20:32 AM

#725808
Barikada

Lying for Jesus award?

10/18/2008 9:37:09 PM

#725815
onein6billion

I bet he hears "Go away!" from women a lot.

10/18/2008 9:42:51 PM

#725842
lotus whitedragon

Rapture Ready: where intelligence goes to die.

10/18/2008 10:04:32 PM

#957024


lying for jeebus!

that or the girl was really thick to not come up with ANY arguments. You know arguments like the number of AIDS cases in Africa, heterosexuals get AIDS too, and this is like debating a creationist.

5/17/2009 10:47:05 PM

#957035
Philbert McAdamia

A straw woman, how novel.

5/18/2009 12:13:13 AM

#957038
aaa

People don't act like that.

5/18/2009 12:28:42 AM

#957117
El Guapo

"I have debated feminists on the Internet and they are not happy."

Maybe women just don't seem happy when they are talking to YOU.

5/18/2009 7:10:40 AM

#957119
Swedish Pagan

Most people dying of aids right now are heterosexuals in Africa.

If I say that you are not happy, 'cause you are a fundie, does that make that true? I said so, then it is so, or what?

She should have known better than to ask for your opinion. Plus, sites on the internet are not neccessarily correct.

5/18/2009 7:16:52 AM

#957120
EvoPagan

Me: Even if you can be proven wrong.

So go ahead with the "proof", providing you have sources besides the bible.

Me: Not if you can’t come up with the websites to support your side.

I hate to break it to you, but I could find websites to support any asinine positiion I might hold. It's the nature of the internet, and it doesn't mean I'm right.



5/18/2009 7:29:57 AM

#1047498
JSS

"Then why do so many gays die if their is nothing wrong with it."

When you have promiscuous sex with thousands of people and not care at all about the risks, you're bound to get something bad, whether you're gay or straight.

"Agreed. We are all sinners. A man and woman that only have had sex with each other will not get aids."

Nor will two men or two women who only have sex with each other.

"Yes it does. We are all sinners. God loves sinners but hates the sin."

I wouldn't say throwing sinners into a lake of fire for eternity counts as loving them.

"They are not happy. I have debated feminists on the Internet and they are not happy."

You can speak for all of them?

"Even if they die or help ruin society."

Good point. I mean, it's not like gay people actually work for a living. And yes with all the murder, rape, theft, and other crimes we must've forgotten how consenting acts in the privacy of a bedroom ruin society.

"I don’t agree with that at all with how many people that are dying from aids. What website do you get your information from and I will give my information."

Homosexuality in general does not cause AIDS, rather, it's the risky acts done by both homo and heterosexuals.

"Even if you can be proven wrong."

I wouldn't say I've been proven wrong.

"Not if you can’t come up with the websites to support your side."

Here's one.

11/1/2009 7:35:02 PM

#1142320
Anemone

Being a feminist does not equal being homosexual. You can get HIV from intercourse, IV drug use, blood transfusions, or in a baby's case, drinking the breast milk of mother with HIV.

4/2/2010 10:27:19 PM

#1142332
Philbert McAdamia

Stevangelist: Say, have you heard the good news?

Me: GO AWAY!!! GO AWAY!!! GO AWAY!!! GO AWAY!!! GO AWAY!!! GO AWAY!!!

>... and wanted my opinion.<
So begins the fantasy...

4/3/2010 1:20:55 AM

#1142351
D

"<<

Counterpoint: Blood transfusions, car accidents"

True, also: Open Wounds (it has happened before), Non-sterilized needles

4/3/2010 4:25:16 AM

#1142379
Anon-e-moose

Proof or it never happened

Lying for Jesus much, Stevangelist? You're in good company after all:

Jim Bakker. Jimmy Swaggart. Ted Faggard. Kent Hovind.

All right-wing Christian Fundamentalist preachers. All liars.

But then, that's what religion is, everyone on Ruptured Retards: the ultimate lie.

4/3/2010 8:21:20 AM

#1142381
Blasphemina

Newsflash, grownups don't have to have a website backing them up to be secure in their beliefs.

4/3/2010 8:30:34 AM

#1142386
GigaGuess

Then why do so many gays die if their is nothing wrong with it.
Well a good chunk of that comes from people being killed for the fact that they're gay (wonder who does things like that...) and suicide (after being told you're vile, evil and perverse for long enough, it's bound to have an effect.)

Agreed. We are all sinners. A man and woman that only have had sex with each other will not get aids.
Just as two men who ONLY have sex with each other will never get AIDS either. Your point?

Yes it does. We are all sinners. God loves sinners but hates the sin.
His followers, on the other hand, seem more than happy to spread the hate around.

They are not happy. I have debated feminists on the Internet and they are not happy.
First, feminists are not necessarily gay, moron. Second, who are you to judge who is and is not happy? What criteria are you using? How is it you seem to know better than I, or millions of other homosexuals how we feel?

4/3/2010 9:35:55 AM

#1142387
GigaGuess

(Part 2.)
Even if they die or help ruin society.
You die too. And so does everyone in your church, or in your work...it's an inevitability. And how the hell does me having sex with another man ruin SOCIETY?!

I don’t agree with that at all with how many people that are dying from aids. What website do you get your information from and I will give my information.
Except AIDS is not a Gay disease. The only reason this has been attributed to it is because that's where it was found first. There's a number of STRAIGHT people dying of AIDS, and the fastest growing infection group is STRAIGHT BLACK FEMALES. It is ignorance such as this that facilitates that.

Even if you can be proven wrong.
Doesn't seem to stop you. You provide no facts, just appeals to emotions, and debunked myths.

Not if you can’t come up with the websites to support your side.
You don't seem to be providing any. Just so you know, "Focus on the Family" and the likes are not a good idea to cite from. Their stats are well known to be skewed.

4/3/2010 9:37:41 AM

#1142399
Deftera

WHY is this not in the top 100?

4/3/2010 11:38:57 AM

#1142400
Quantum Mechanic

I quit reading after the first 'Me:'.

4/3/2010 12:00:07 PM

#1278519
Hunter Jay

He was talking to his split female atheist personality, Sally!

4/13/2011 7:51:58 PM

#1278542
lisamariefan

Of course they don't seem happy to you. They have to put up with the frustration that is talking to you.

4/13/2011 11:53:16 PM

#1278544


Maybe I'm wrong, but don't we ALL die?
Feminists =/= lesbians, some are both, some are just feminists or just lesbians.
There have always been homosexuals, and society is still not ruined. Murder and fraud ruins society in much larger degrees.
Heterosexuals die of AIDS too.
I get my information from science articles in news papers, scientific magazines and from scientific books.

I bet from "You are not going to change my mind", the lines where the other way around (if it happened at all).
Like this:
Me: You are not going to change my mind.
She: Even if you can be proven wrong.
Me: I believe what I believe.
She: Not if you can’t come up with the websites to support your side.
Me: GO AWAY!!! GO AWAY!!! GO AWAY!!! GO AWAY!!! GO AWAY!!! GO AWAY!!!

4/14/2011 12:19:34 AM
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