I can't tell you the number of times I've heard this argument from idiots who think they're being clever.
Gays have been able to get married in Canada for over five years now and do you want to know how this has affected my marriage to my wife of twenty-five years?
It hasn't. So much for undermining the foundation of a healthy society. If you idiots really meant what you said you'd work to outlaw divorce. Mind you, you just might get a few more objections.
3/27/2011 5:40:10 AM
3/27/2011 5:57:37 AM
You were doing so well there, at first.
3/27/2011 5:58:09 AM
Any evidence that homosexuals want to undermine society? Any evidence that the Left want to abolish the concept of marriage? I think you'll find a majority of people on the Left are married.
3/27/2011 6:41:07 AM
And before interracial marriage was legalized, everyone had the exact same right to marry someone of the same race, just like everybody else! No discrimination or bigotry involved whatsoever!
3/27/2011 7:02:02 AM
This tired old argument again?
3/27/2011 7:28:26 AM
Denying gays the right to marry someone of the same sex is unconstitutional. The Equal Protection Clause of the Constitution guarantees people will not be discriminated against. A woman has the right to marry a man, but, based solely on my gender, I do not have that same right. I cannot marry a man the way a woman can because the law is discriminating against me based on my gender.
"Many studies reveal the correlation between marriage and...lower crime rates." Because our crime rates have been lower in the age when gays had to hide in the closet? Look at the crime rates in the U.S. where people fight against gay rights to the crime rates in Western Europe where gays are allowed to openly marry. I think you'll find the crime rates are lower in Europe.
3/27/2011 7:41:38 AM
And if someone to tell Bill that he had the freedom to worship God under the name I choose for Him and conduct his daily routine in the fashion I have laid out regardless of his actual beliefs he'd have a few choice things to say about his rights, despite them being the same as anyone else given the freedom to worship.
If this is an American Thinker, the American Idiots must truly blow the mind.
3/27/2011 7:49:41 AM
Also, it's not about holy matrimony as much as lawfully wedded.
3/27/2011 8:12:01 AM
Ok, if you marry Camila Parker or Ophra against your will, you may have a point. In the meanwhile....................
3/27/2011 8:14:05 AM
A homosexual man has an identical right to take a woman in holy matrimony as may any other man.
Oh don't you think you're clever? Fine, then you have the equal right to belong to any religion you like so long as it's Islam.
3/27/2011 8:27:28 AM
Raised by Horses
This is G.K. Chesterton, author, humorist and Christian apologist.
You, sir, are no G.K. Chesterton, and that is putting it mildly.
3/27/2011 8:37:41 AM
Ellen Degeneris does NOT have the same right to marry Portia as I do.
3/27/2011 8:50:36 AM
"Gays have every bit as much right to get married as you or I. And in fact, they should."
Good! You're finally catching on!!
"A homosexual man has an identical right to take a woman in holy matrimony as may any other man."
Oh, fucking hell.
"Likewise, the rest of us have just as little right to take some guy and pronounce him a bride. This isn't a question of differing rights. Our rights remain in perfect symmetry."
Um, no, they don't, because you, by virtue of being heterosexual, have the intrinsic right to marry someone whom you actually love, whereas gay people, by virtue of being homosexual, can't possibly have the right to do this if they are restricted to opposite-sex marriage.
3/27/2011 9:28:42 AM
"Many studies reveal the correlation between marriage and everything from income generation, our children's academic achievement and lower crime rates."
Yeah, but notice it doesn't say "opposite-sex marriage", it just says "marriage". So if same-sex MARRIAGE is allowed, then gay/bi people will be allowed to enjoy those benefits.
"Undercutting the family exemplifies folly."
How does same-sex marriage undercut the family? Does it destroy "traditional" marriages? No. Does it negatively affect any kind of family in any way? No. So what's the problem here?
Same-sex marriage will actually help families, because it will give same-sex couples — some of which are raising children — the same legal/financial benefits as "traditional" families; that's better for the family as a whole.
"Marriage would temper their urges and channel their desires into something beneficial for both them and society at large."
Same-sex marriage would do that, yes. It would grant them status as legitimate couples, it would give them greater benefits which would help them raise healthier children, etc. Opposite-sex marriage would do nothing to "temper their urges", and it's debatable whether it would "channel their desires into something beneficial".
You are such a moron.
3/27/2011 9:29:41 AM
Ah. Homophobia with a healthy dose of misogyny. I love christians.
3/27/2011 10:01:10 AM
Which sort of - sort of - makes sense if you phrase it as a sexual orientation issue and not a gender issue. A homosexual man might have as much right to take a woman in holy matrimony as any other man - but I am denied that same right. Because I'm a woman.
3/27/2011 10:29:20 AM
Western marriages are supposed to be due to love and affection, not just stability and protection like in the olden days.
Gays don't have the right to marry a person they love and are attracted to in the US.
A man will never be a bride, but a bridegroom, stupid!
We in the left want marriage to be inclusive, for everyone. And many of us are in stable heterosexual marriages, even though gays CAN marry over here.
Many of my friends and relatives are not married at all, but manage to run stable, loving families anyway.
As long as the family is stable, loving and nurturing, it does not matter whether the parents are married or not. It's the broken, dysfunctional families that wreck civilized community.
American Bigot, more like it. Idiot!
3/27/2011 10:31:14 AM
Not the tired old, "gay men have the right to marry a woman" argument. What Bill doesn't seem to realize is that if gay marriage is legal, then he has the right to go marry a man, too. So more freedom for all.
But a gay person will never be happy in a marriage to someone of the opposite gender, and will just force them to live a lie while cheating on their spouse with someone of the same gender. I'm willing to bet that the vast majority of gay men meeting for sex in public restrooms have a wife at home.
3/27/2011 11:19:08 AM
Ok fucktard, how about this. You now have the same right, just like to me, to freely worship the Invisible Pink Unicorn. What's that, you want the right to worship the god you want to worship. Tough shit, why do you think you get special rights just because you're Christian, you don't have that right.
3/27/2011 11:27:37 AM
Another person claiming that if gays were allowed to marry we'd be in the stone age. *yawn*
3/27/2011 12:18:31 PM
As a straight man, you're an idiot Bill.
3/27/2011 12:31:19 PM
Fall back, men, they've breached the moral lines.
3/27/2011 1:05:40 PM
Addendum: I have the right to marry a male of my choosing, why don't my male friends have that same right also, in the US?
3/27/2011 1:40:43 PM
The right to marry someone of the same gender would be extended to everybody, not just "the gays". However, it would likely only be gay people that would exercise it.
I think all too often, though, that the issue of same-gender marriage is inadvertently portrayed as being kind of a "gays only" thing (at least in the US), since gay groups seem to advocate for it the most - obviously - and get the most attention on the topic. This might be where the erroneous notion of gays as a group wanting "special rights" granted to them comes from. Nobody ever seems to take the time to point out what I said in the paragraph above this one.
@Passerby: This guy's presumptuous enough to assume he's an "American Thinker", but like those people who presume to be intellectual, or artistic, or poetic, he really only has an internet connection, opposed thumbs, and one hell of an ego. >_>
3/27/2011 1:53:42 PM