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#1270303
wife abuse apologist?
3/23/2011 3:33:08 AM
#1270306
The_L
LESS traumatic?! Betrayal in such a way by a person you love is LESS traumatic than being slapped around by a stranger?! On what fucking planet?
3/23/2011 3:44:16 AM
#1270310
Swede
I'd say it's quite the opposite; from family and friends you expect kindness and respect.
For one of your close relations to treat you so abominably, that creates an extra round of trauma and shock.
3/23/2011 3:48:28 AM
#1270313
nutbunny
Recently released statistic. Aproximately 80% of all murders in South Africa are carried out by someone known to the victim
3/23/2011 3:52:28 AM
#1270319
Percy Q. Shunn
You guys will say, or do, anything to get your hands on little boys, won't you?
3/23/2011 4:05:49 AM
#1270320
Xotan
Violence in any relationship is abuse.
Physical violence is criminal and should be reported to the proper authorities so the law can take its course.
3/23/2011 4:10:03 AM
#1270322
Doctor Fishcake
But using that as an argument against marriage...
Stop right there! Who's supposedly been making that argument? This reeks of strawman bullshit.
3/23/2011 4:19:05 AM
#1270328
dionysus
it is less traumatic for a child to be slapped by his mother than by a stranger, for a man to be punched by his brother than by a stranger, or for a woman to be sexually assaulted by her husband than by a stranger.
What moon logic did you use to come to this conclusion? Being betrayed by those you trust is MORE traumatic, not less.
3/23/2011 4:58:48 AM
#1270330
C_V
"at the mercy of people who don’t have their best interests at heart."
as if the Catholic church has ever had anyone's best interests, other than their own, at heart.
3/23/2011 5:03:55 AM
#1270336
"Our violence is better than their violence."
How do these people even function in real life?!
3/23/2011 5:15:36 AM
#1270337
Murdin
The Catholic church acting less like an outlet for spirituality and more like a political lobby that supports traditional, conservative, oppressive social institutions. Un-fucking-believable.
Related fact. While it is untrue to say that all pro-lifers are motivated by their hatred of women, the pro-life position of the Catholic church is clearly part of a pattern of misogyny. I will believe that they really care about the unborn child when they start working for the equality of women everywhere, beginning with their own clergy.
3/23/2011 5:15:48 AM
#1270344
Mister Spak
But we don't want anyone to be an atheist, because then there would be violence, because atheists have no morality to restrain them.
3/23/2011 5:28:58 AM
#1270346
Cy
""It might be true that a husband will be more likely to slap his wife, <b>force her to have sex with him</b>, or commit some other form of <b>low-level violence</b>"
Force her to have sex with him.
Low-level violence.
What?
Oh, Catholics. I try to think as well of you as I can. I know Catholics who would agree as whole-heartedly as any of us that much of what their church does is bullshit. And then we get references to rape as "low-level violence".
3/23/2011 5:30:20 AM
#1270351
SleepNeed
It is never right to "commit some other form of low-level violence" to a spouse. And it is never okay to force a spouse to have sex, NEVER! I think it'd be even more traumatic for a child to see his/her father slapping/assaulting or forcing his mother to have sex than a stranger.
A healthy relationship is based on trust, not fear.
3/23/2011 5:43:19 AM
#1270353
Doubting Thomas
it is less traumatic for a child to be slapped by his mother than by a stranger, for a man to be punched by his brother than by a stranger, or for a woman to be sexually assaulted by her husband than by a stranger.
This is why I'm glad I'm not Catholic any more. If traditional catholicism means being OK with husbands beating wives, then I don't want to have any part of it.
It's far more traumatic to be treated badly by someone you love & trust than by a complete stranger. Does anyone really think that a wife is going to keep loving & trusting her husband after he sexually assaults her? At the very least, such an act would put a strain on the marriage, at the most it would end in divorce with the husband in jail & the wife in therapy. That's far more trauma than a woman being assaulted by a complete stranger & then having the loving support of her husband to fall back on.
3/23/2011 5:55:00 AM
#1270356
Bayonetta
I was married to a sexually abusive christian man for ten years. It most certainly is NOT easier or less traumatic because you know your attacker - it's WORSE because it was done by someone you trusted.
Rape apologist dumbass motherfucker.
3/23/2011 6:02:41 AM
#1270359
Pule Thamex
Why would anyone want to slap a stranger, let alone a member of their own family?
It must be a Christian thing.
Why would anyone want to sexually assault a stranger, let alone a member of their own family?
It must be a Christian thing.
Why would a man punch a stranger, let alone his own brother?
It must be a Christian thing.
I wonder if it's because basic communication skills are poor with the sort of person who believes in sky fairies so that they must resort to violence?
3/23/2011 6:12:35 AM
#1270362
Jasper Spotty-Butt
Why would a father want to sexually assault his young son, let alone somebody else's young son?
It must be a Catholic Father's thing.
3/23/2011 6:17:14 AM
#1270365
werewolf
The above post can be taken out of context, however, upon reading the whole article, I can say without fear of contradiction, that it's pure horseshit.
3/23/2011 6:34:34 AM
#1270373
TGRwulf
So if I'm reading this correctly- "Violence isn't that bad if it's in relationship"?
GDIAF.
3/23/2011 6:48:56 AM
#1270375
practical god
Oh, Doubting Thomas, there are indeed people who believe such things. Allow me to introduce you to that fount of asshattery propped up by evolutionary psychology and false dichotomies that is known as Roissy's blog.
http://roissy.wordpress.com/2009/03/09/lies-about-women-who-love-abusers/
3/23/2011 7:00:13 AM
#1270376
Brendan Rizzo
Read this one extra carefully. On the surface, it doesn't seem that horrible. Nowhere does the quote advocate marital rape or claim that it is a husband's right to do that to his wife. Even the second paragraph could be stretched a bit to be less offensive.
Then you realize that this person is merely using that as an excuse for the woman not to leave her husband for any reason, including abuse. If that's the case, then fuck off, Alte.
3/23/2011 7:00:15 AM
#1270389
Garfield
so, an abusive husband has the wife's best interest in mind?
you just made a very convincing argument against marriage!
3/23/2011 7:37:52 AM
#1270390
farpadokly
The revolting cold-blooded way that this writer (who presumably never has to face any of these things himself) writes off violence and rape, amounts to a tacit endorsement of these things.
"Anytime you remove the danger of the first case by weakening family bonds, you increase the likelihood of the second case." NO. That does not follow.
The thing that really annoys me is the style of writing. The writer isn't brave enough to just come out and say "rape and violence are fine, as long as they take place within families" so they have to use circumlocution and nice-sounding phrases. Disgusting.
3/23/2011 7:38:25 AM
#1270391
Lpopman
Fucking rape apologist.
that is all.
3/23/2011 7:40:59 AM
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