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#1267668
John
This is an American study. While attacks of Christians take place in countries where Christians are a very small minorities, they're pretty rare in the US.
3/16/2011 10:39:08 AM
#1267679
breakerslion
Why yes, that is funny. It's especially funny because the data is there. On second thought, you are funny - in the sense that something in fridge too long tastes funny.
3/16/2011 10:53:40 AM
#1267689
Veras_the_Brujah
She didn't even need to read the whole study, all she had to do was look at the title.
"Religious Bias Crimes against Muslim, Jewish and CHRISTIAN Victims: American Trends from 2000-2009, based on statistics reported by the FBI."
It's right there.
3/16/2011 11:07:23 AM
#1267691
Sasha
@CohibaMan, I like your analysis. Food for thought.
As for Talia here, she's just another lying fundie.
3/16/2011 11:14:03 AM
#1267718
Old Viking
Another voice joins the Whine-athon.
3/16/2011 12:22:06 PM
#1267730
Berny
The statistics are about attacks in the USA. What attacks on Christians ever happen the USA? Where you can't swing a cat without hitting a Christian and where there are churches on every corner? (By the way, the cat thing is what we call a metaphor, not an attack)
You people really are delusional.
3/16/2011 1:11:49 PM
#1267734
John
Talia obviously didn't read the study, and neither, apparently, did many of the others. For example, one person said "they could be counting anything from an outright physical attack to someone saying allah is a false god." Well, no. It said they counted hate crimes as defined in the Uniform Crime Reporting Program; i.e., "a criminal offense committed against a person or property which is motivated, in whole or in part, by the offender's bias against a race, religion, disability, sexual orientation, or ethnicity/national origin; also known as Hate Crime." Saying Allah is a false god is not a criminal offense. It appears most of the hate crimes were property vandalism.
3/16/2011 1:15:49 PM
#1267738
Godbuster
Well, those guys are already in jail, so... it's kind of pointless to report on them. It's like if you reported every car accident, the news would be full of car accidents, so they don't bother.
Really, you should just shut the fuck up.
3/16/2011 1:28:00 PM
#1267749
Passerby
Guys like you take guys like me saying 'stop preaching at me' as persecution. We're looking at people getting beaten to death.
3/16/2011 2:14:06 PM
#1267758
Fundies Make Me Sick
Maybe there's no data on Christians because Christians are never the victims of hate crimes since they're the majority and are often the ones committing the hate crimes against others. Ever think about that?
3/16/2011 3:09:02 PM
#1267761
feralboy12
Put on your hairshirt and shut up.
3/16/2011 3:13:16 PM
#1267769
SleepNeed
Talk about cherry picking. Here is the link I will be using from the FBI, it details the hate crimes of 2009 (2010's report isn't out yet):
http://www2.fbi.gov/ucr/hc2009/index.html
As you can see if you go to Table 1, it mentions anti-Catholic (51 incidents), and anti-Protestant (38 incidences.) Of course it dwarfs in magnitude to anti-Jewish (931 incidences) and anti-Islamic (107 incidences.)
I found this in 2 seconds of Google searching, it isn't that hard.
3/16/2011 3:34:37 PM
#1267785
Osiris
Alright, here's the fact. Anti-Christian hate crime is the lowest category of hate crime. Anti-Semitic hate crime is the highest. The vast majority of those accused of Anti-Semitic hate crime are Christian.
3/16/2011 4:18:32 PM
#1267787
casewithscience
They have a point, there are significant hate crimes against christians IN OTHER COUNTRIES. The stats relating to the united states are somewhat different.
3/16/2011 4:26:07 PM
#1267790
John
The funny thing is, the study seems to be trying to counter an Islamist argument that Muslims are victims and are being attacked in the US. They point out that Jews are still far more likely to be the objects of hate crimes. It also seems to be warning that fanatic Islamist terrorists might use that "victim" argument (that they're under attack and that their religion is being slandered) as a justification for a response under Sharia law, a la Salmon Rushdie.
3/16/2011 4:36:52 PM
#1267836
Tempus
Yes, how dare they ignore the daily persecution of around 84% of the American population.
3/16/2011 10:24:47 PM
#1267919
Orion
I was surprised that Jewish hate crimes are the most common in the USA, I would've thought crimes against Muslims would be far more prevalent in the current political climate.
3/17/2011 5:04:24 AM
#1267987
emau99
Yeah. Funny how that happened.
Why don't you supply us with the missing data, then?
3/17/2011 7:05:58 AM
#1268063
Skatepunk
If you pay attention, other news groups (especially FOX) DO report on Christians being persecuted.
What you don't get, Kirana, is the fact that Christians in the Middle East are the only ones really being persecuted. NOT in the U.S.
EDIT: Just read the article. She just ignored the word Christian in the article. So, yes. The public is indeed aware there are attacks against Christians based on faith. But still not enough to be "persecuted".
3/17/2011 9:24:54 AM
#1268069
Whitleylad
Change the record already this is soooooo dull.
3/17/2011 9:30:44 AM
#1268202
John
@Orion: "I was surprised that Jewish hate crimes are the most common in the USA"
Because they count property crimes, they include all the spray-painting of swastikas on Jewish temples and cemeteries committed by idiot teenagers, which I suspect are the majority of the anti-Jewish stats. Not to downplay the seriousness of this kind of vicious antisemitism and the parental bigotry that fosters it, if they counted only violent crimes, I suspect the stats would be different, and much lower, for all the religions studied.
3/17/2011 3:50:11 PM
#1268283
strider
any attacks on christians in america i don't know about?
Hell! Let us bring out the pitchforks and torches!
3/17/2011 9:29:59 PM
#1268287
aaa
Mind if i recommend you an optician?
3/17/2011 9:43:17 PM
#1272634
Joe H.
holy shit
3/29/2011 10:36:44 AM
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