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Before I left Gerard Bouw’s home, he mentioned to me that his fiercest critics are his fellow Christians. “Non-Christians certainly don’t have a problem with the idea that the Bible is geocentric,” he said. “I am kind of amazed at atheists not taking the creationists to task about geocentricity.”

I studied Bouw’s face, but the comment seemed to be a general one, not directed at me personally. I continued as if the idea of using geocentrism to expose the foolishness of creationism had never occurred to me. “Why do you think they don’t?” I asked.

“I think they’re afraid to do it,” said Bouw. “Because they might lose even worse.”

Gerardus Dingeman Bouw, The Nervous Breakdown 63 Comments [1/3/2011 5:48:53 AM]
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#1240593
Horus IX

Gerard...you have never met an atheist then.

1/3/2011 6:09:53 AM

#1240596
Scooby71

For a little more context from the article:

"Gerardus Dingeman Bouw, the president of the Association for Biblical Astronomy and the country’s leading proponent of geocentrism.

In the field of Bible science, young earth creationism is the liberal position. A tiny but fiercely dedicated contingent of scholars holds the more conservative belief that a literal reading of the Bible reveals a universe in revolution around a fixed, central point: the earth. Bouw, who holds a Ph.D. in astronomy from Case Western Reserve, has dedicated his adult life to proving this proposition scripturally and scientifically."

Hmm

1/3/2011 6:14:15 AM

#1240598
JonathanE

Funny how this PhD's name doesn't seem to come up with any actual peer-reviewed resarch.

1/3/2011 6:19:44 AM

#1240610
B K

When you try and force it into school science classes, then we'll care. Until then, Gerald, we don't really care if you believe the sun is dragged across the sky by a bunch of overworked angels, or the world is shaped like a bowl.
But someone who holds a Ph.D should know better.

1/3/2011 6:29:15 AM

#1240628
Doubting Thomas

What? I've seen geocentrism attacked many times here and on other websites. And we really don't have a problem with the bible being geocentric because we reject the whole book as a bunch of ancient fairy tales anyway.

1/3/2011 6:56:27 AM

#1240639
Jesus Was Gay

Biblical astronomy? HA! HA! Oh, it's wonderful to start the day with a laugh.

1/3/2011 7:16:31 AM

#1240640
Doctor Whom

“I am kind of amazed at atheists not taking the creationists to task about geocentricity.”

Then you haven't been paying attention, but somehow, I am not amazed.

1/3/2011 7:17:30 AM

#1240646
Raised by Horses

It's funny, then, that the theory of a geocentric universe has been contradicted by just about every piece of data related to physical cosmology and astronomy gathered throughout mankind's history, from ancient Greece to modern deep space observatories.

Sorry if that conflicts with your self-imposed world-view, but the Earth is simply not the centre of the universe.

1/3/2011 7:23:01 AM

#1240647
aaa

When i just thought that fundamentalists can't get more stupid, they prove me wrong. Bravo.

1/3/2011 7:23:52 AM

#1240652
louislois

...and this guy has a PhD in Astronomy, how?

1/3/2011 7:33:22 AM

#1240657
shadkat

Obviously, this poor guy was sent in a time machine from some sad, distant past. He assimilated quite nicely, except for his desperate clinging to old, outdated, and disproved theories.

1/3/2011 7:39:14 AM

#1240667
Swede

I have no problem with the idea that Alice in Wonderland could eat a cookie and become very, very tall. That doesn't mean I think there are cookies like that lying around somewhere.
It just means that in the fairy tale, that idea works pretty well.

Geocentricism is just one of the many flaws with a literal interpretation of the Bible. As there are so many, it takes a while to go through them all.

We're afraid to point out idiotic statements that has been debunked more times than there are grains of sand in the Sahara Desert?
That's a good one!

1/3/2011 7:54:39 AM

#1240668
nazani14

Why does he stop with geocentrism? The Bible is quite clear about the Earth being flat, with a solid firmament over the top of it like an inverted bowl.

1/3/2011 7:58:54 AM

#1240675
TGRwulf

Whaaa?

Have you ever even TALKED to a non-christian??

1/3/2011 8:09:19 AM

#1240680
Nithing

You mean this liberal atheist backslider so-called Christian beieves in a ROUND Earth!? Heretic!

1/3/2011 8:22:05 AM

#1240685
John_in_Oz

Or, because we abhor man of straw arguments.

1/3/2011 8:39:42 AM

#1240692
Headache

Gerard Bouw - a poster child for failing mental health care in the US.

Not surprising - USA even put mentally insane people on a fake news channel and give them a hour to show off their insanity - only in USA!

1/3/2011 8:53:13 AM

#1240695
Berny

In Bouw's case, the PhD stands for Piled High and Deep.
What complete, utter, morons.

1/3/2011 8:58:51 AM

#1240709
Mihangel apYrs

Obviously, then, the Solar System is a lie, because Pluto would have to be travelling in excess of the speed of light to make a daily orbit of the Earth. As for the rest of the universe...

Have these idiots ever considered the cosmology of this, or do they reject every bit of science that disagrees with their world view?!

1/3/2011 9:46:13 AM

#1240722
LionLedByDonkeys

" Eppure si muove" !

1/3/2011 10:23:31 AM

#1240724
Meromorph

That argument was lost in the 17th Century (by the christians).
Of course Bouw is still mentally in the 16th Century...

1/3/2011 10:27:32 AM

#1240725


NASA workers must be laughing in their pants.

1/3/2011 10:28:30 AM

#1240787


Crap, have we not been vocal enough in our rejection of geocentrism? Do we need a list of scientists named Steve who reject it?

1/3/2011 11:27:37 AM

#1240808
Sisyphus

Are they including PhDs in cereal boxes now? Dammit! All I got was a whistle. :(

1/3/2011 11:40:34 AM

#1240810
Joe Mama

I wonder why these Christians who believe in geocentricity because it's biblical don't also believe in a flat earth with a firmament above which separates the waters above with the waters below, along with floodgates which cause rain? If you're going to deny part of science, why not deny it all?

1/3/2011 11:52:04 AM
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