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People who ascribe to intelligent design believe that it is no accident that our kind of life could only occur when the temperature, rainfall and everything else was exactly right on this planet. Intelligent design is a secular interpretation of scientific data — consistent with the Bible but not drawn from it.

There are numerous other examples of intelligent design in the origin and development of our universe. But the scientific evidence points out that our universe was designed for life.

Intelligent design depends on logic from scientific data, for example:

n Whatever begins to exist has a cause.

n The universe began to exist.

n Therefore the universe has a cause.

Every student should be presented with Darwin's theory of evolution and the various theories of intelligent design. Each student has a right to evaluate the evidence and reach his or her own conclusions. That student can conclude that the creation of this universe was blind luck and choose atheism or intelligent design and choose theism. Some may decide to choose neither.

The classroom is no place for people who believe in censorship and don't accept "that whosoever knew the truth, put to worse, a free and open encounter."

Jack Wright, The News Star 69 Comments [12/24/2010 6:58:53 AM]
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#1237766
Vince

Another failure to understand this same god damn bullshit. I've heard the "if anything else had been different life couldn't have happened" argument more times than I care to count.

Always thinking that because conditions made life here possible then it MUST have been made so. Your looking at this backwards. Sure, that kind of sounds like makes sense, in hind sight, but your an idiot.

Try to warp your broken and stupid mess of a mind into thinking about this in the order it actually happened. Out of the uncountable multitude of planets where life could have happened, THIS is the one planet where life was possible, possibly the only one, thus, THIS is the planet where we evolved. Nothing about that is impossibly unlikely.

12/24/2010 9:46:55 PM
#1237783
SpacemanSpiff

Did thomas aquinas rise from the grave without anyone noticing? Good god, you don't know a damn thing.

12/24/2010 11:37:36 PM
#1237784


Okay jackie, two very simple observations, which you either dismiss because they don't fit your bullshit, or are blinded to by dogma; one, if everything that exists has a cause, what caused god? and two, might it seem like the universe is perfect for us because we evolved in such a universe, and would not evolve in such a way as to not fit well into the universe? as in, the universe isn't perfect for us, we became perfect for it.

12/24/2010 11:52:36 PM
#1237785


If you´re so sure, care to explain how snakes speak?, or the rib issue?

12/25/2010 12:06:20 AM
#1237817
Murdin

Reading the comments on this quote, it seems like the wedge strategy is really working. THERE IS NO SCIENTIFIC CONTROVERSY BETWEEN CREATIONISM AND EVOLUTION, NOT ANY MORE THAN BETWEEN ALCHEMY AND MODERN CHEMISTRY OR RELATIVITY AND INTELLIGENT FALLING. Do you even realise what you're implying ? That someone who is basically saying we should teach phrenology or geocentrism in the classrooms is NOT FUNDIE ?

12/25/2010 3:57:36 AM
#1237819
Raised by Horses

Volcanic eruptions are known to release enormous amounts of heat and energy. There are two world views regarding this natural occurrence. One is that these eruptions are caused by the expelling of various gases via built-up pressure underground. The other is that volcanic eruptions are caused by Beelzebub and his minions for the purpose of burning sinners. We should expose children to both views and let them decide for themselves which one they think is correct.

12/25/2010 5:09:05 AM
#1237861
Mihangel apYrs

we can also decide for ourselves that 2+2=5

otherwise it's censorship

12/25/2010 8:49:22 AM
#1237913
ANALH

"People who ascribe to intelligent design believe that it is no accident that our kind of life could only occur when the temperature, rainfall and everything else was exactly right on this planet. Intelligent design is a secular interpretation of scientific data — consistent with the Bible but not drawn from it."

"This hole is just perfect. Why this hole must have been made just for me!" said the puddle.

If you think about it the case could be made that the Greeks were partly right about the 4 elements theory(the fire part), they were just using words differently.

What is fire? The part that we can see is essentially a bunch of photons released from matter because of heat. The argument could be made that a "photon" is a type of fire, and if you described photons to Greeks they probably would've classified it as fire. I bet ancient Greek philosophers would've said "aha, that's the basic unit of fire". And then some fires are electric. And then voila, it would in fact be true that "fire" is the basic element of the universe, since at the most basic of all understood levels quarks are made out of photons and in an atom the only thing not made out of quarks are electrons which goes along with electrical fires. There's even evidence that electrons might also be made of photons.

It's interesting that ancient Greek metaphysicians speculated on things that we can now test in laboratories. It makes you wonder if the things we argue about in metaphysics now will eventually be testable.

12/25/2010 12:13:38 PM
#1238100
Evilution Teacher

Logic Fail

12/26/2010 12:21:28 PM
#1238118
John

Whatever begins to exist has a cause.
The universe began to exist.
Therefore the universe has a cause.

People saw the flaw in that argument 2,500 years ago. The first premise is wrong, because it leads to an infinite regress. Aquinas, for example, got around it by saying more or less that everything either was created by something else or is self-existent; not everything can be created by something else; therefore there must be at least one self-existent being.

12/26/2010 1:38:24 PM
#1238125
Swede

If the temperature, rainfall and everything else was a bit different, some other kind of life would have occurred instead.
Plus, temperature, rainfall and everything else have changed multiple times, even since Homo Sapiens Sapiens emerged. FAIL!

Students are not capable of deducing what is scientifically correct and what is just a hoax. They are taught science in science class in order to learn the scientific method.
The students are not taught chemistry and alchemy side by side, either.

Evolution is not blind luck.

12/26/2010 2:22:07 PM
#1238338


"...scientific evidence points out that our universe was designed for life."

Common sense points out the universe was designed for life or you wouldn't be contemplating it.

12/27/2010 9:31:16 AM
#1238360
Mat

Intelligent Design is a ...... secular ....intepretation of scientific data?

Wow. Just wow.

12/27/2010 10:39:44 AM
#1238370
Mister Spak

"Intelligent design depends on logic from scientific data, for example: "


Someone wants to talk to you about logic.

12/27/2010 11:01:15 AM
#1238401
JohnTheAtheist

What a stupid asshole. When you find actual evidence for Intelligent Design please publish it. When it survives the scrutiny of the scientific community it can then be introduced into a science class.

Writing "God Exists" in a book does not make it true.

12/27/2010 12:12:08 PM
#1238441
Alpha_Omega

"Basically, bullshit. This is the "wedge strategy." We don't present the stork as an alternative to sex education and we don't present Holocaust Denial as an alternative to the real history of WW II.

Why? Because these things are recognized by experts in the field as total crap just as Intelligent Design is recognized by experts in the field as total crap.

So why the hell should we teach it in a science classroom?"

Okay, it seems you misunderstood my point. I was merely observing that this person isn't as much of a blind nut as those that usually end up on this site. This person is willing to at least accept the theory of evolution as the most robust explanation in the scientific community (even if he doesn't believe it) and that it therefore must be taught. Let's face it, any student who isn't doomed to indoctrination and has been taught to think and evaluate critically will accept the theory of evolution over intelligent design.

12/27/2010 3:22:00 PM
#1238550
TheJebusFire

[Every student should be presented with Darwin's theory of evolution and the various theories of intelligent design.]

Just to clear things up, by "various theories" he means the bible and only the bible.

12/27/2010 7:43:06 PM
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@Haseen
Show me an expirement that can test evolution. I am both a creationist and an evolutionist, but feel i should play devil's advocate.

12/30/2010 7:27:20 AM
#1240071
Shadoboy

And here comes the question: What is the cause of God?

"He caused himself" is not a real answer.

1/2/2011 12:18:47 AM
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