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You people are annoying as hell. (When it comes to homosexuality, anyway.) What happened to supporting rationalism through actions? Half of these posts were either half-minded memes or full-minded whining. It took a little bit to long for someone to quote any statistics and I have yet to see a name for ANY of them. The person said something stupid that we could all laugh about, but, somehow, it turned into a sardonic pro-gay rhetoric. Why isn't anyone making witty jokes about how stupid this is? (And when a witty joke was made, It was repeated about a million times.) The guy above me actually just said, "bullshit". Come on! 1 of the people went on long winded and pseudo-intellectual rant about the moron saying "make them gay". No one dared call attention to this retard saying that gays win at molesting children. Is this a sensitive issue? Well, obviously not; because I just saw a fuckload of "Citation Needed" jokes. Did you all read "The God Delusion" and decided that you need to be a hypocritical cunt and be intolerant towards Christians? Did the guy even say he was Christian? Jesus, Is someone here actually named "AuraTwilight"? Atheism has become a fad and making fun of Christianity is just cool.
10/27/2010 11:13:36 AM
"making fun of Christianity is just cool."
No, it's more like picking low hanging fruit.
10/27/2010 11:56:23 AM
All right, I was just going to point out that 100% of the child molesters known personally to me were bisexual males formerly married to my sister. I was then going to ask, "How does this fit in with your perception nmh? Was he gay, pretending to be bi? They had two kids, and from the outside looked like a poster for 'family values'. Or maybe my sister was pretending to be female? Same problem."
Then I saw the rant at #1221766, so now I'm just going to mention the subset fallacy used to construct nmh's argument. Even if true, and no actual statistical evidence is presented, child molesters are a subset of the entire population, regardless of other subsets to which they might belong. I bet three out of four are brown-eyed, given a large enough sample size. What should we make of that?
PS: "Atheism is just a fad..." I think that's what one of the railroad tycoons said about the automobile. We all know how that turned out.
10/27/2010 12:12:04 PM
I read about the afterlife
Uh I'm a lesbian and if I had kids -- I'd want a boy. Girls are too much drama for my taste.
10/27/2010 12:33:21 PM
Citation needed. Urgently!
Most molested children are molested by their heterosexual parent (fathers, mostly, at least in the statistics).
10/27/2010 12:37:24 PM
Here is a great read with statistics and yes, NAMES! http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/html/facts_molestation.html
Way too long to quote on here, so but I'll quote the conclusion: "The empirical research does not show that gay or bisexual men are any more likely than heterosexual men to molest children. This is not to argue that homosexual and bisexual men never molest children. But there is no scientific basis for asserting that they are more likely than heterosexual men to do so. And, as explained above, many child molesters cannot be characterized as having an adult sexual orientation at all; they are fixated on children."
10/27/2010 12:45:08 PM
Just for the love of no god, give me a citation!
10/27/2010 1:01:14 PM
Citation needed. And the voices in your head doesn't count!
10/27/2010 1:02:31 PM
I think it's way past #1221766's bedtime.
10/27/2010 1:13:33 PM
@ The Exterminator - please, do tell me what exactly written here disgusts you or leads you to believe we are elderly child molesters?
10/27/2010 2:09:43 PM
Brought to the attention of the world, important information concerning homosexuality, relayed via the www to you by nmh, a self appointed expert on homosexual affairs and ace drooler of no fixed intelligence. nmh recommends spending the evening in, indulging in a couple of hours of E&I (Excitability & Ignorance) to be followed by a session of fantasizing about homosexuals.
10/27/2010 2:16:43 PM
What happened to supporting rationalism through actions? Half of these posts were either half-minded memes or full-minded whining.
So you don’t like it when people whine – what precisely are you doing then? Look, I think that if you accuse anyone of anything as awful as child molestation, especially an entire group of people, you had better be able to back those claims up. Especially when said group of people is already a minority that is shunned already by a lot of people. I think that whining is more than justified in this case.
It took a little bit to long for someone to quote any statistics and I have yet to see a name for ANY of them.
Um, it was nmh who made the accusation. It’s nmh claiming that he has the facts. He’s the one that has to prvide evidence to back them up. If he can’t do that, we are perfectly justified in not believing what he says.
The person said something stupid that we could all laugh about, but, somehow, it turned into a sardonic pro-gay rhetoric. I think it's more pro-equality and pro-tolerance than pro-gay. It's not like anyone is trying to convert you to homosexuality. This person did say something stupid. I agree. We should laugh at him. Ridicule is a powerful tool for getting a point across. But ridicule isn’t the only way to get a point across either.
10/27/2010 2:31:32 PM
Why isn't anyone making witty jokes about how stupid this is? (And when a witty joke was made, It was repeated about a million times.)
You do realize you just contradicted yourself don't you? And as for why the "" comment was repeated so many times . . . I think it’s pretty obvious. If nmh is going to make claims like these, he’d better back them up.
Did you all read "The God Delusion" and decided that you need to be a hypocritical cunt and be intolerant towards Christians?
No. Not everyone here has read The God Delusion. Even among those who have, not everybody likes it or agrees with it. There are people here who don’t like Richard Dawkins. I think that most of the people here who have read the book and even agreed with it for the most part probably disagreed with Dawkins on certain points. And I don’t see that much intolerance towards Christians – unless you count ridiculing fundamentalists intolerance. Christ.
Did the guy even say he was Christian? Jesus, Is someone here actually named "AuraTwilight"? Atheism has become a fad and making fun of Christianity is just cool.
Has everyone here said they are an atheist? Has everyone here said that they’ve read The God Delusion? If anyone is making sweeping accusations, it’s you. (And what does the screen name of AuraTwilight have to do with anything?)
I don’t know why you think atheism is a fad. On of the reasons so many atheists vent online is because they can’t do so in real life. Atheists are a widely distrusted and disliked minority too (in America at least). And if it’s a fad, it’s a fad that’s kept going since a least the days of the ancient Greeks.
10/27/2010 2:32:04 PM
You make wild claims but don't back it up with citation.
Typical bullshit from the religious.
Oh, and "TheExterminator"
I'm a supporter of FSTDT and I'm a straight, 26 female doctor. You know, lying is a sin, right?
And, for fuck's sake, get an education and learn to spell.
10/27/2010 2:54:11 PM
I saw on one of the big news websites about gays adopting. It showed many, many gay couples of both sexes with opposite sex kids...and lots of white couples with kids of other races. This is just another tired, reprehensible lie.
10/27/2010 3:20:56 PM
Your spelling "disgusts" me.
"The HIGHEST molestation rates with kids are with SAME SEX COUPLES and SAME SEX kids. That is a FACT. It is shocking. When you compare the SMALL PERCENTAGE that “gays” are of our population - maybe 1-3% and compare the MOLESTATION RATE with molestations that happen with heterosexuals, HANDS DOWN of the percentages “gays” win."
That's not what the statistics that I have say.
@1221766-And what's you're doing isn't whining?
10/27/2010 3:35:04 PM
This must be the most demented piece of shit i've ever read.
10/27/2010 3:43:13 PM
The only true thing you said was when you admitted your post had no brains.
10/27/2010 3:49:51 PM
The idea that a child who was molested will have his/her sexual orientation determined by the sex of the person who molested them is ridiculous. What does nmh think - that a young boy will actually enjoy being molested by a man, and that will make him sexually attracted to men for the rest of his life? Does he actually imagine he can guarantee a kid to be straight by having his mother sexually molest him?
Actually, children who have been molested often become sexually dysfunctional and unable to enjoy sex at all.
BTW, why is "Citation Needed" a joke? Is it a joke to suggest that someone who offers statistics needs to cite a source? That takes a pretty bizarre sense of humor ...
10/27/2010 4:13:57 PM
I'd like to see these numbers you speak of. Oh wait, neither have you. How silly of me.
10/27/2010 4:16:46 PM
I saw a VIDEO on one of the big news websites. Sheesh.
10/27/2010 4:40:03 PM
Seriously, I don't think you managed to make a single true statement in your entire rant.
@Exterminator: I am 23, straight, and definitely not a pedophile. Guess that proves you wrong. Not that you are going to pay any attention..... Also your inability to spell "your" and to capitalize appropriately disgusts me. Get thee to a remedial English class.
10/27/2010 6:18:22 PM
So based on that logic ONLY same couples should be allowed to have kids and only the opposite sex. Otherwise one of the opposite sex parents will molest the child of their opposite sex.
10/27/2010 6:36:33 PM
1 thing I love about the internet is ppl r less fooled by shouting.
In real life if people shout or act overbearing the crowd irrationally follows them.
On the internet shouting with capital letters just makes you look like an idiot and an asshole.
Score one for logic.
EDIT: I don't fall for that in real life, in fact it annoys the shit of me. I hate it when people do that. But I notice how many ppl will just "go along with it".
10/27/2010 6:39:12 PM
Don't bother asking for citations. He'll only quote some bullshit from "Dr" Paul Cameron.
10/27/2010 7:30:12 PM
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