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["how you can equate what Scripture is talking about (Satan worship, paganism, child sacrifice, ordering one's life around superstition, etc.) with fictional/fantastic literature that has no basis in true reality, and uses fanciful magic merely as a plot device."]


Witchcraft is "true reality" and not something to be toyed with. In high school a friend was toying with various aspects of witchcraft, things went wrong and his house burned down.

There have been those who practice witchcraft (by a variety of names) in this area who are known to have accomplished "magical" things.

If one proclaims fictional witchcraft to be acceptable, then that would logically extend to fictional works depicting "good" homosexuality or "good" adultery.

John 81, Online Baptist 47 Comments [7/24/2010 12:33:48 PM]
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#1184623


- I can summon spirits from the vasty deep!

- Ay, so can I, and so can any man, but will they come when you do call them?

7/24/2010 12:42:43 PM

#1184627
Bobby

Next thing you know they will be trying to portray a "good" fundie or even better a "smart" religious person

7/24/2010 12:47:30 PM

#1184631
Rat of Steel

"If one proclaims fictional witchcraft to be acceptable, then that would logically extend to fictional works depicting 'good' homosexuality or 'good' adultery."

I think we've got an Unintentional Honesty award nominee here, folks.

7/24/2010 12:50:29 PM

#1184636
bbq burrito

Someone tell this guy that fire != witchcraft.
It does look cool, but still, just a chemical reaction.

7/24/2010 12:53:16 PM

#1184643
shadkat

Was this high school friend using candles in some sort of "magical ritual" and his curtains caught on fire, or something?

Because I doubt that's divine intervention of any sort, I think that's a very basic cause-effect situation. You know, Cause: Joe Average lights candles near something flammable. Effect: Shit catches on fire.

7/24/2010 1:04:40 PM

#1184645
Ken

My Pagan and Wiccan friends are doing just fine, thank you. They've given me some things and talked to me about their spirituality and rituals and I'm just fine as well. But no, we can't talk about the good heathens, can we?

7/24/2010 1:05:49 PM

#1184674
PAnz

And aside from a case of coincidence with the housefire (because no one else ever has housefires, amirite), you can't show, or prove any of these "magical things" you claim, I'd bet.

And a slippery slope for the fail.

Btw, oh so, well, really not smart one, you realise your religion falls under the fictional classification, right?

7/24/2010 1:36:20 PM

#1184678
WWWWolf

> a friend was toying with various aspects of witchcraft, things went wrong and his house burned down.

Oh, I see! Careless use of candles!

...but don't Christmas decorations cause far more house fires than pagan candle failures, due to the fact that it's a far more wide-spread religion? I mean, there's bound to be dozens of many-child families where toddlers spread good holiday cheer by thrusting burning candles in the curtains? When faced with incompetency, even God is helpless.

7/24/2010 1:39:13 PM

#1184687
Xotan

Witchcraft is "true reality" and not something to be toyed with.


--- BS

In high school a friend was toying with various aspects of witchcraft, things went wrong and his house burned down.

--- This needs proof, or it is just a lie for Jebus.

There have been those who practice witchcraft (by a variety of names) in this area who are known to have accomplished "magical" things.

--- Proof or it hasn't happened and is just lying for Jebus - again!

If one proclaims fictional witchcraft to be acceptable, then that would logically extend to fictional works depicting "good" homosexuality or "good" adultery.

--- Bullshite, there is no logical link here, and John 81 knows it. Or, in the unlikely event he really believes it, it's time for the men in white coats to take him away, ha-ha!


7/24/2010 2:05:02 PM

#1184689
GodotIsWaiting4U

"In high school a friend was toying with various aspects of witchcraft, things went wrong and his house burned down."

I know you're supposed to keep your unprovable bullshit anecdotes non-specific, but I think you went too far. WHAT high school? WHOSE friend? HOW did things go wrong? THIS IS EXTREMELY GENERIC.

Homosexuality isn't good or bad; it exists, and that is sufficient.

7/24/2010 2:06:34 PM

#1184708
Blasphemina

Fictional works depicting good homosexuality are acceptable. Real life "good" homosexuality is acceptable. Get with the program, John81.

7/24/2010 3:05:16 PM

#1184710
aaa

Evidence, please. Don't have it? Then stop wasting my time.

7/24/2010 3:13:14 PM

#1184717
whatever

"There have been those who practice witchcraft (by a variety of names) in this area who are known to have accomplished "magical" things."

The word is "magickal".

7/24/2010 3:34:51 PM

#1184718
whatever

"If one proclaims fictional witchcraft to be acceptable, then that would logically extend to fictional works depicting "good" homosexuality or "good" adultery."

I only committed adultery once. But believe me, it was very good indeed. So it looks like your prophecy has come at least partly true!

7/24/2010 3:36:07 PM

#1184734
I read about the afterlife

Having read more books than you (not a hard feat), I can indeed tell you without a doubt that there are fictional works that depict good homosexuality.

Shocking, isn't?

7/24/2010 4:51:58 PM

#1184741


"In high school a friend was toying with various aspects of witchcraft, things went wrong and his house burned down."

Lying for jeebus is STILL lying.

And silly me here thinking that bearing false witness was a sin.


"If one proclaims fictional witchcraft to be acceptable, then that would logically extend to fictional works depicting "good" homosexuality or "good" adultery."

Um, except those things are REAL you fucking loon.

7/24/2010 5:11:40 PM

#1184749
John

In high school a friend was toying with various aspects of witchcraft, things went wrong and his house burned down

In high school a friend was a fundamentalist Baptist and his house burned down, too. Maybe God just doesn't give a shit whose house burns down. Ever think of that?

7/24/2010 5:24:09 PM

#1184759
Headache

Witchcraft just like your god, are figments of human imagination and not reality!

Good grief - people are fucking stupid!

7/24/2010 5:56:11 PM

#1184763
Zits

Beware the dry Christmas tree. They burn. Beware faulty wires. They burn. Beware misplaced candles. They burn. Ignore chants. They DON'T burn.

7/24/2010 6:01:54 PM

#1184765
Milza

Cool story bro. Could've used a vampire though.

7/24/2010 6:03:55 PM

#1184766
The Lazy One

Let me guess- said friend was screwing around with candles, left them too close to the couch or his mom's drapes, and shit caught fire.

7/24/2010 6:06:31 PM

#1184767
Sasha

Witchcraft is bad because something bad happened once?

Uh, can you be a little bit less specific?

7/24/2010 6:08:03 PM

#1184769
Vince

And many of such works exist. All of them just fine you pathetic book burning twat.

7/24/2010 6:10:59 PM

#1184772
Nowonmai

And when good "Christians Homes" get hit Electrical shorts, or lightning strikes, are those of witch craft too?

I've been 'toying' with shamanism/witchcraft for 40+ yrs. No house fires here, no disasters, just the normal ebb and flow of life.


7/24/2010 6:16:08 PM

#1184773


things went wrong and his house burned down.

Like him lighting some candles for a "ritual" and one of them falling down or being put too close to something flammable? The lesson here is not to play with fire under any condition, not to say people can't pretend that they're casting spells. Because that's just what it is: pretend.

7/24/2010 6:17:38 PM
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