Quote# 74491
Faith in God has been the foundation of the United States of America since Thomas Jefferson wrote the Declaration of Independence, which refers to the "Creator" as the source of all our fundamental human rights and in which the Founders expressed their "firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence."
Rep. Randy Forbes of Virginia has authored the "In God We Trust" Resolution (H.Con.Res. 274), which reaffirms "In God We Trust" as our national motto and urges the motto to be publicly displayed "in all public buildings, public schools, and other government institutions."
This phrase was adopted in law as our official national motto in 1956, but has appeared on our coinage since 1865. In fact, the last piece of legislation Abraham Lincoln signed before his assassination authorized the use of "In God We Trust" on all coins minted in the United States.
The words "In God We Trust" appear over the entrance to the Senate Chamber and above the Speaker's rostrum in the House Chamber.
If these words are good enough for the chambers of Congress, good enough for all our coins and all our currency, and good enough to serve as our national motto, they are good enough to appear on the walls of every classroom in America.
Currently, 73 bipartisan members of Congress have signed on as co-sponsors of Rep. Forbes' resolution. If your representative is one of those 73, thank him today.
If your representative is not one of those 73, urge him to become a co-sponsor today. What possible reason could he have to oppose this?
We all recognize the need to return God to His proper place in our public life and especially in our system of public education. You can help return this nation to God by contacting your representative today!
Randy Forbes & the AFA,
American Family Association 42 Comments [7/19/2010 1:24:41 PM]
Fundie Index: 39
Submitted By: The Watcher
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#1183082
John_in_Oz
Theocracy makes Randy jizz in his pants.
7/20/2010 7:34:47 AM
#1183088
Chatvert
Virginia? Hell, I'm sorry, guys, it pains me to live in a state that produces this kind of nonsense on a regular basis. Virginia isn't totally full of fundie crazies. Honest.
7/20/2010 7:39:30 AM
#1183090
Nowonmai
Saying "All men are created equal" does not equate to Thomas Jefferson saying he believed in a Creator.
The "In God We Trust" was added to placate religious fundamentalists like you.
7/20/2010 7:47:05 AM
#1183151
Anon-e-moose
"Faith in God has been the foundation of the United States of America since Thomas Jefferson wrote the Declaration of Independence, which refers to the "Creator" as the source of all our fundamental human rights and in which the Founders expressed their "firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence."
O RLY? The same Thomas Jefferson who said (quote):
'I do not find in orthodox Christianity one redeeming feature'
'Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blind-folded fear'
'There is more need for lighthouses in our country than churches.'
'But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg'
Or mayhaps it was a completely different Thomas Jefferson you're thinking of, Randy? Certainly not one of the Founding Fathers who wrote the Declaration of Independence, then also drew up the Constitution, which makes absolutely no reference to a 'God', 'Jesus' or even a 'Creator'. Amirite? Must've been another man called Thomas Jefferson who was devoutly religious, then. One who would have never written his own version of the Bible, with all the 'supernatural' elements removed, eh?
I love the smell of destroyed arguments in the morning. Smells like... victory.
Troll4Life, take note. Oh yes, that's right. Lucifer, and others already handed your arse to you on this matter previously.
7/20/2010 9:21:26 AM
#1183197
moose
"Creator" was used to be a good overall catch-all term. To satiate those of any particular faith, and those of no particular faith. Deistic, pantheistic, whatever. Jefferson, as mentioned by those above, was certainly NOT an xian. Go ahead and say "in the Creator we trust", but leave your wholly babble gawd out of it.
7/20/2010 11:31:53 AM
#1183199
Riku
*sigh* I didn't even bother to read the whole thing. But one word will describe Jefferson and a number of Founding Fathers of the United States of America: Deist! Seriously, when are these people going to realize that? And the fact that what they are proposing goes directly against the Constitution itself... *shakes head, walks away*
7/20/2010 11:37:15 AM
#1183209
Hertzyscowicz
We all recognize the need to return God to His proper place in our public life and especially in our system of public education.
I think we all agree on that. As to the direction God should be going....
7/20/2010 12:00:44 PM
#1183239
Old Viking
I've always been partial to "In God we trust, all others pay cash."
7/20/2010 12:58:28 PM
#1183274
baconlord
how insecure is your god that you think he needs to have his name plastered everywhere?
7/20/2010 3:18:30 PM
#1183566
SeekerLancer
But even the creator that Jefferson mentioned in the Declaration (which is in no way a document of law like the Constitution which has zero mentions of God) was a nondescript deist entity at best and not your Christian God/Jesus.
The United States of America was never the theocracy you believed it was and sorely want it to be and it never will be.
7/21/2010 5:20:35 AM
#1183609
I thought the motto was "e pluribus unum" before some self-righteous ass decided to use "In God we Trust".
I find "From many, one" to be much more inspiring for a country.
7/21/2010 6:21:27 AM
#1184309
faeriequeene11
This is one of those times I'm embarassed to be a Virginia resident, especially because I live near this idiot's district.
7/23/2010 11:39:59 AM
#1186446
Mitch
Jefferson was deist aka. smarter than atheists and theists, yet probably a bit too many assumptions compared to that of a pure agnostic.
7/29/2010 4:39:40 AM
#1186479
JohnTheAtheist
I am curious about two things:
First, Jefferson doesn't mention Jesus or Christianity, just a "Creator".
Second, and more importantly, the founding document of our government, the Constitution, does not mention god. Not once.
Clearly the constitution is a secular document.
Randy, you are a complete douchebag.
7/29/2010 6:20:24 AM
#1186506
Moondog
Roger Williams was exiled from Massachusetts for saying they should have freedom of religion. He was led to a place by, he said, Divive Providence (hint, hint) where he founded the colony of Rhode Island, the first colony to have such freedom and to abolish slavery. A secular colony like that would drive fundies nuts. Irony alert: Roger Williams was a Baptist minister. I suspect he would be shocked to see the theocratic leanings of AFA and others.
7/29/2010 7:14:24 AM
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Anon-e-moose
"Faith in God has been the foundation of the United States of America since Thomas Jefferson wrote the Declaration of Independence, which refers to the "Creator" as the source of all our fundamental human rights and in which the Founders expressed their "firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence."
The same Thomas Jefferson who was one of the Founding Fathers who drew up the very basis of your country, the Constitution.
Which has absolutely no mention of a 'God', 'Jesus', or at least a 'Creator'* therein?
The Thomas Jefferson who brought out his version of the Bible (in effect a reverse-Andy Schaftafly 'Conservative Bible') with all the stupid supernatural elements removed?
And the Thomas Jefferson who once said:
'Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blind-folded fear'
As for the rest of your tl;dr Randy (and if you're so fixated on the Declaration of Independence), all I have to say is this:
Treaty of Tripoli.
*- Yes Troll4Life, this means
you:
http://www.fstdt.net/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=67654&Page=6
Oh, and BTW, dearie, got any more 'claims' - as in the above, where you said 'America is a Christian country' - that need annihilated?
Because you clearly love being proved wrong. Argument-wise:
10/16/2010 8:08:05 AM
#1299573
Except it was the Deist watchmaker god, not your skybully.
6/14/2011 8:31:53 PM
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