Besides tricking the eye by making it think that an object is coming forward (when it really isn't), which is disorienting and brings on nausea, the mind and spirit are also tricked into believing in a "nature" god instead of the one and only true God as explained in the Bible.
I don't really know which is worse--the underlying "new age" message which leaps out at you in the "glowing" tree and all its ramifications or the 3D trick that is being played on our eyes in Avatar, but I feel it should be important to watch carefully what goes into our lenses, embedding itself in our minds and hearts as truth when there really is no sound basis for its "truth" at all.
And what is the purpose of blasting the Judeo-Christian God by having the characters freely cursing as they utilize His name? It offends the viewers and denigrates our God. Perhaps there are more things that leap out than is first realized. It was not the 3D that made the movie nauseating to us. It was for all these other things that leaped out at us in its totally false worldview.
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No idea what Parent Contributor is on about, but I get the impression that it is displeased, somehow, that pleases me.
I'm legally blind in my right eye. As a result, 3D movies have no effect on me other than to give me either a blurry screen (which would be for those movies that use the sunglass-looking 3D glasses) or a green screen (for the two-colored glasses). And I agree that the blurry screen makes me nauseous too.
But you know what? That's why, when I saw Avatar when it was only in 2D.
I will be the first person to admit that I'd like to see the 3D phenomenon over already but I actually have a reason for not liking it: with my eyes, it actually makes the moviegoing experience worse.
As long as they keep on making movies in old-fashioned 2D, I don't really have much room to complain.
So if you didn't like Avatar. fine, I suppose. It offends your worldview. I get it. But don't blame that on the 3D because, you know what? You didn't have to see the movie in 3D to begin with. And you should've known from the previews that you weren't going to like Avatar if your faith is that weak that it could be threatened by a movie.
Special effects = Satan. No fiction for you!
Also, alternate way to interpret the whole "don't take my name in vain thing": you can say "God" and "Lord" all you want, just don't pretend you speak for him.
If you'd paid attention to the only worthwhile character in the entire movie (the scientist) you'd realized the tree isn't a god but simply a focal point for a planet-wide collective consciousness. Of course, that would require you to not think that scientists are evil.
Taking your god's name in vain is something people do all the time and really isn't a huge deal. It offends some viewers (like you), but you denigrate your God quite enough in our eyes that we don't really have to assist.
jesus fuckin christ, it's just a goddamn movie. What is the matter with you fundie fucksticks? Why can't you just enjoy something for what is, instead of trying to make everyone else want what you want?
Fuck you, fuck your jesus, and fuck your god in its goat-hole.
Oh no! The movie's perspective offered within the confines of a fictional universe doesn't fit within the confines of my religion's (warped) perspective of our universe! SHUUUUN!
(Also: lol @ bitching about saying "Oh my god", etc.)
...the mind and spirit are also tricked into believing in a "nature" god instead of the one and only true God as explained in the Bible.
If a movie can shake your faith, well, better go back to church and stay there. The real world is apparently so complicated you can't even tell the difference between fact and fiction.
***this was Sasha, btw***
I don't remember anyone taking the Lord's name in vain. "God" is a generic noun, not a name.
I do wish these morons actually understood their book of fairy tales.
"It should be important to watch carefully what goes into our lenses, embedding itself into our minds and hearts as truth..."
So... you accept everything you see and hear as absolute fact, without recourse to reason, evidence, or contrary statements?
Actually this explains an awful lot about fundies.
Parent Contributor, I feel sorry for your kids. They will grow up brainwashed by a vile, hateful fundy worldview corrupted by hatemongering pastors & mindless, unquestioning parents who believe that children should be ABSOLUTELY UNQUESTIONING of authority.
As for your so-called 'review', it rates less than zero. It is an idiotic attempt to demand that films reflect only the myopic, ignorant, fundy 'Christian' worldview.
What is offensive is that this idiot is a parent but also demands that I and everyone else subscribe to their vile, hateful - and FALSE - worldview. Go fuck yourself, 'Parent Contributor' - and I hope your kids abandon you in your old age. I sure as hell would.
"...but I feel it should be important to watch carefully what goes into our lenses, embedding itself in our minds and hearts as truth when there really is no sound basis for its "truth" at all."
I agree wholeheartedly. Until god-botherers can pony up some evidence for their delusions they'll continue to be treated like the liars they so patently are.
Do you even know His name? It's not Yahweh. That YHWH just means "he who must not be named" kinda like Voldemort.
As far as your other assumptions... it's a freakin' movie. Do you get upset if your kids watch Veggie Tales and see a cucumber talking? It's so unnatural! There's no possible way god could have intended that!
1. It's fiction
2. There was evidence for the existence of the "nature god".
My beliefs didn't change because I saw this fictional movie. If that were the case I'd have so many conflicting worldviews (or be changing it so often) my head would explode.
I agree, Avatar did suck.
How To Train Your Dragon, however, was completely worth the price of 3D.
I'm confused. You went to a movie where a) there's a definite, real God(dess), b) Her people all love her, and c) they win via miracle, and you're upset because She prefers to communicate via tree rather than via Jesus? Gods you're picky.
Also, might I recommend you pick up some WH40K some time?
Also also, Old Viking gets film history points.
@Jamaican Castle
"Also, might I recommend you pick up some WH40K some time? "
I would rather follow the emperor of mankind than bible god, it is based in reality more than bible god in any case.
My brother is a Christian (Catholic to be more precise), and watching Avatar didn't affect his beliefs whatsoever. My father is also Catholic, and watching The Golden Compass (banned by many bishops as anti-Catholic) didn't affect his beliefs, either. I watched Expelled!, but that didn't make me a creationist--sorry, an Intelligent Design advocate.
See, we're adults, and as such, we can tell the difference between fiction and non-fiction. We don't change our worldview overnight from watching a movie, because it's just a movie.
> I don't really know which is worse--the underlying "new age" message which leaps out at you in the "glowing" tree and all its ramifications or the 3D trick that is being played on our eyes in Avatar,
Okayyyyyy... how about this startling bit of deception that the film tries to avoid mentioning: the events, people and locations depicted in the film are entirely fictional. Not real.
I mean, I can easily see why fundies don't like the touchy-feely new-age messages, but if you're so offended by 3D effects, then it should follow that this heinous subtle bit of deception in the plot department should offend you even more so.
Criticise the plot and message all you want, but if you start hurling rocks at the artistic tools used to create the film, there's bigger problems to attack than "3D tricks".
Why aren't fundies complaining that Thunderf00t uses Evil 3D Graphics and Spellbinding Writing to spread his evil atheistic lies?
I just made a new movie that glorifies God, "Glory Be To God". It is a film that has been written, produced and designed by me and is meant to be projected on to a bare ceiling, painted white if possible.
The director was me, and, if I do say so myself, it is a beautifully conceived hommage to God. Best viewed lying down and looking up, it starts with the opening credits which last only a couple of seconds, since everything was done by me, then the projection is stopped for 90 minutes and replaced for the duration by a white spotlight shining on to the ceiling. After the 90 minutes is up, a brief 'The End' is projected as the emotionally drained audience blink away into the night, their lives irrevocably changed. By the way, There is no music and no soundtrack, even to the credits.
I feel that with this film's creation I have achieved my life's ambition in proving the ultimate invisibility of God and also shown that He loves living in your head. Quite frankly, your head is God's play pen. Awesome satisfaction.
"And what is the purpose of blasting the Judeo-Christian God by having the characters freely cursing as they utilize His name? It offends the viewers and denigrates our God."
I was offended by the cookie cutter plot and the cheesy premise, but definitely not the God Damns.
Also, I want to echo the rest of the people here. Avatar is "fiction". It isn't real. It doesn't profess to be real. There is no alien planet out there with floaty rocks and a big glowing tree. I know it's scary seeing a strange culture that is so different from yours but this one shouldn't affect you because it ISN'T REAL!
Oh, no! Not people living in harmony with each other! Won't someone think of the children? They might think it's a bad idea to hate and discriminate. We can't have that, can we?
Listen carefully, I will say this only once; It's fiction!
This isn't my type of movie and I haven't seen it, but I highly doubt that it ever intended to present a "worldview." It's just entertainment, for fuck's sakes.
Although it scores extra points if it pissed any fundies off.
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