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WTF? How does making gays in the military no longer have to hide mean that the draft will be reinstated? That's one HELL of a slipper slope.
6/27/2010 5:56:18 PM
Oh no, bigots won't feel comfortable in the military anymore. What a tragedy.
6/27/2010 5:56:54 PM
I'm not sure what the hell he's talking about but if I ever got drafted, my plan was to pretend to be gay to get out of it. If DADT gets repealed I have to think up a new strategy. Hence DADT getting repealed makes the prospect of a draft scarier
6/27/2010 6:07:29 PM
Lady, that's one heck of a non-sequitir if I saw one.
I'm female and already in the military, so what's wrong with women in the military?
6/27/2010 6:17:07 PM
I suppose that next they'll want to integrate it or something.
6/27/2010 6:27:24 PM
How does allowing more people to both be open about who they are and keep their jobs in the military re-instate the draft (which was put in place when there weren't enough people in the military)?
6/27/2010 6:32:17 PM
Okay, I cannot comprehent how open gay existence in the army will lead to everyone being drafted to fight.
Unless it's referring to that Onion video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aotlEpmAFVQ) that says that gays aren't allowed in the military because they are the nations' most precious citizens. Therefore, repealing DADT means that everyone will join to protect them. That is the only semi-sane way for that argument to work.
6/27/2010 6:37:21 PM
Well, yes, some bigots will certainly leave the military. I can't recall off-hand what the exact number was, but something like 30% of active duty military members have threatened to not stay in should DADT be repealed.
Granted, the military is so over-manned right now (what with the bad economy and all), that a 30% reduction is not going to hurt us much - certainly not enough to require a draft.
Additionally, the military doesn't want a draft. It's been shown over and over again that a volunteer force is infinitely better than a conscripted one. Re-instating the draft would likely cause more problems than it might solve.
6/27/2010 6:41:55 PM
So lets see here, not kicking people out who want to serve meaning that there will be less investigations on a thing that should be no issue leading to saving money (it's very expensive to train a solider, sailer, or airman after all, even more so if you kick them out) and hours that could be better spent and a increased military readiness is a bad thing how?
6/27/2010 6:43:30 PM
How dare you insult our soldiers like that! Not everyone is a bigoted moron like you. Some people actually care more about their country than people's sexual preference. That you would abandon the military over such a trivial matter shows where your loyalties really are you treasonous bag of shit.
6/27/2010 6:45:01 PM
Right. Because you so desperately need a million troops on standby to fight off all those underequipped peasants you keep picking on.
6/27/2010 6:59:49 PM
You really think that little of your armed forces, that you believe they would desert en masse rather than serve with openly gay people? Really? If I were one of those straight US soldiers I would be offended...
6/27/2010 7:01:01 PM
"Obama is going to sign an Executive Order for OPEN GAYS in the Military!!"
And? Seemed to have worked out alright for the ancient Greeks. Heard of the Spartans?
"That will then mean that the DRAFT, FEMALES INCLUDED, will HAVE to re-instated!!!"
I don't follow.
"Straight, good, Godly men will FLEE......"
That would be desertion. They used to shoot people for that, you know. Doesn't sound like much of a "Godly" thing to do.
"but since there are NO JOBS available, maybe they won’t be able to!!"
They wouldn't be able to anyway, jackass.
6/27/2010 7:12:47 PM
As it is, the "gay clause" is not a very viable option for those who want a way out of the military. Basically, if you want to get out by DADT you either have to show them evidence of homosexual activity and that it is a characteristic of your behavior (very difficult to fake this because they will investigate) or you have to enter into a gay marriage. How much more difficult will this be when there is a draft?
I just came here to say what I always say in these forums: There are already gays in the military and for the most part they do just fine and they're not especially hated by anybody. This will not be a problem, and anyone who has been in the military knows this.
6/27/2010 7:15:36 PM
...I think this person's line of reasoning is that, once DADT is repealed, people will leave the military en masse, because they don't want to serve with "faggots". SO, to maintain the 2 wars, the draft would have to be reinstated. Then he kinda wanders into economics, saying that soldiers wouldn't be able to leave, because they need the job.
I am so confused, though apparently not as much ass Ann Archy here.
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6/27/2010 7:22:11 PM
You mean I could've just left the USMC at any time despite having signed a contract that said I would serve for a designated amount of time? Without being put in prison??? That must be some loophole you've found.
6/27/2010 7:22:58 PM
Freepers seem to think "dem qweers" will be joining the military en masse because of the repeal. I can't imagine things are going to change all that much, but everythings got to be the end of the fucking world with these morons.
6/27/2010 7:28:14 PM
I detect the alluring, delightful scent of a Poe. Smells like laughter.
6/27/2010 7:38:27 PM
Open gays =/= reinstatement of the draft.
6/27/2010 7:43:21 PM
6/27/2010 7:47:32 PM
Straight, good, Godly men will FLEE
If these straight, good, godly men will flee at the first sign of opposition or conflict then it is better for them to not be in the military in the first place.
I mean I, even being straight myself, would rather have a military comprising entirely of gay men and women, who have the courage to hold their ground, regardless of the magnitude of the adversary (which they seem to have, considering how they have survived against an overwhelming majority of bigots like you over the years) rather then a bunch of pansy, straight, good and godly men who would run off over something like this.
6/27/2010 7:53:08 PM
If they'll run from homosexuals they'll certainly run from the enemy.
6/27/2010 8:02:46 PM
What'd I Do
If they flee, then they are merely opportunistic cowards who most likely joined because the uniform's a pussy magnet and are no longer interested in serving. I certainly approve of any bill that would keep that kind of dick out.
6/27/2010 8:07:05 PM
And why did those "Straight, good, Godly men" join the military in the first place? Did they want to keep this nation safe? If so, why are they so willing to abandon their posts just because there's a couple gay guys in the vicinity? It sounds more like they only joined because gays aren't allowed to serve openly. What a bunch of pricks.
6/27/2010 8:08:29 PM
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