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First don't lump yourself together with the history's greatest minds or think you speak on their behalf, nor on atheist behalf.
Second might makes right mentality "because we know best", is the same authoritarian arrogance, the theist have. In essence by your own morality the theist position is just as justified, as your own.
Third there is no clear line of us and them. Almost every human is capable of reasoning, not just 'us'. Also changing one's views is never easy, no matter who it is.
If we are complacent, then let's simply not be and demonstrate why our positions are right in rational, evidence based discourse. That combined with education and prosperity, is the best answer to combat fundamentalism, not megalomaniac control fantasies or violence.
You don't save the world by setting it aflame. It's simply up to humanity as a whole wether our species lives or dies, isn't that the only fair solution?
Personally I think you're a theist POE, but you could just as easily be the real deal, an idiot atheist, with very twisted views.
6/16/2010 3:57:26 PM
that guy must be a troll there is no way he is serious
6/16/2010 4:36:31 PM
Yeah Good luck with that Übermensch.
6/16/2010 4:44:21 PM
There is only one proper way to fight against an irrational idea, such as religion: Through widespread criticism and education.
Silencing the opposition does nothing to help us. Silencing an idea does nothing to make that idea go away, it just drives it underground, and in fact, makes it more difficult to fight against it because no debate about it would be permitted.
Freedom of speech and freedom of beliefs is considered a valuable human right for a REASON.
While slavery itself is illegal, it's not illegal to be pro-slavery. But is it something we are really concerned about in the U.S.? Is there any chance the pro-slavery crowd will eventually overwhelm the anti-slavery crowd and bring slavery back? No, because through widespread criticism of an ignorant and horrible idea like slavery, most people understand WHY slavery is wrong and the idea is only held by a few fringe lunatics.
6/16/2010 5:02:25 PM
The IP pools the addresses belong to aren't even on the same continent. Also, Distind checked it himself, and he has much better tools than I do. The quote is as legit as we can confirm.
6/16/2010 6:01:37 PM
6/16/2010 6:19:02 PM
I didn't even think about the possibility of Randroids...yuck. Those guys have a faith-based system of their own. Free markets usurp the role of a supernatural deity.
6/16/2010 8:34:50 PM
I have to say that Brigged is probably isn't a reverse-poe. Being an atheist just means you don't believe in God(s), it doesn't mean that you have to be moral, rational, and sane. If we try to say that Brigged somehow isn't a true atheist, it's no different from when Christians claim someone who shares their faith but disagrees with them on something else isn't really a true Christian.
That being said, I find Brigged's comments so despicable that I don't even know where to begin. Brigged is twisted and wrong in just about every possible way.
6/16/2010 9:00:40 PM
I agree with Papabear.
6/16/2010 10:21:36 PM
I honestly believe that the world and our civilization would be better off if religion was taken out of the equation. However, I also agree that the use of force is a horrible suggestion. We are, as you reasonably state, better than that. The conversion must be done by education, enlightenment and free will. Sady, because of this, I suspect it will never happen. Huge percentages of the human population are perfectly content with the explanation "goddidit" and are happy to leave it at that. I'd like to think that we have outgrown the need for superstitions and supernatural explanations for natural phenomena, but sadly now I come to suspect that we never will. Does this make me an atheist fundamentalist? I don't think so, but if you quote me as one I see no reason to be embarassed by it.
6/16/2010 10:34:40 PM
Brigged thinks he's Ozymandias or something, I swear.
6/16/2010 10:55:36 PM
THEY ARE AMONG US!
6/16/2010 11:38:15 PM
WTF is this ?
Seriously, wtf ?
I think needs someone serious professional help.
6/17/2010 1:15:11 AM
Two words: Pompous git! That is all.
6/17/2010 6:18:23 AM
Haven't you seen the Wrath of Khan, Brigged?
Also, don't let me forget:
6/17/2010 10:18:17 AM
And naturally if you made any "progress" in taking control you would reward yourself and your close associates for your work with more wealth and a better quality of life.
This is the same kind of rationale used by every ruling class or wannabe ruling class in history.
6/17/2010 5:28:07 PM
History's greatest minds sound like my mother-in-law!
6/17/2010 7:38:44 PM
I wouldn't give him that much credit. Ozymandias actually showed a shred of humanity.
6/17/2010 7:39:33 PM
I don't want to be in control of fundies. I'm pretty sure I would forget to clean their cages, and I can't afford the vet bills.
6/18/2010 12:24:43 PM
If you have to belittle people who are different than you, then you're not near as great as you think you are.
6/18/2010 4:45:55 PM
Fundies in our own midst?!
6/21/2010 12:02:15 PM
Not to mention the most obvious difference...Ozymandias was intelligent.
6/21/2010 9:17:42 PM
If this person really is an atheist, they are a Strawman Atheist. Real atheists are nothing like this. My personal belief is that, if a person is happy with their religion and not hurting anyone else, let them believe what they want to believe, so long as they don't try to convert me. I'm happy being an atheist.
6/23/2010 8:16:41 PM
Why is it that every time an atheist quote comes up, there are a dozen people who shout "POE?"
Look at Sam Harris. He has specifically stated that "religious tolerance is a mistake," among other things. I guarantee you that if he was a Christian and said the things he says about atheism that he says about religion, he'd be called a fundie and a prime example of how religion is dangerous. Instead, he's up there with Hitchens and Dawkins, and Dawkins even endorses him.
Why is it so hard to believe that if a grade-A asshole like Harris can be published in the mainstream, that there might be people even worse on the internet?
9/8/2010 2:44:41 PM
When fundies say that atheists are evil, they point to this guy as an example.
12/24/2010 8:38:34 PM
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