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(In a multi-post rant on why and how all religion should be eradicated in discussion of a fundie atheist quote:)

Histories greatest minds have always known that it is us and them, and that for everyone's overall saftey and wellbeing, it is us that needs to be in control. They do not have the capability to sustain themselves in a civilized manner for any great period of time. Their minds are simply not capable of it. They will never simply ease into an efficient system, they will always put base survival first, conjuring up the supernatural as explainations for things that they find no time to explain. They need us to control them. However, no animal likes to be caged. So what did we do? We used force. We forced them to see that they needed our guiding hand. And when they did see that they would flourish under our guidance, they accepted us as their rulers, and went straight back to not caring. So it is throughout history.

The problem is this. We become complacent. We begin to trust that their fledgling minds are capable of taking care of themselves. Finally, we think, surely now they are advanced and educated enough to stay out of trouble. But no, some asshole always sneaks in, and turns them against us for his own selfish goals. The rest can be seen in every history book ever written. That is why the methods I propose seem to not work - no-one has ever actually tried it in it's entirety. Pre-emptively taking control of the world in order to usher in lasting global peace? Do not be fooled into thinking Hitler and his ilk are counter-examples. He is an example of what happens when they are out of control.

If I sincerely believed that education and prosperity alone were enough to save the world, I would be singing their praises. Granted, they are very useful, but they are not enough. The most powerful organisations in the world know that as well as I do.

Brigged, FSTDT 80 Comments [6/15/2010 6:29:16 PM]
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#1168540

GodotIsWaiting4U

If you need force, you're doing it wrong. These people are very easy to manipulate. It would have to move slowly and subtly, but infiltrating their ranks could at least afford us a measure of control over their insanity. Rule from the shadows with your back against the wall; you'll keep knives out of it better that way.

6/15/2010 11:41:30 PM

#1168554

WMDKitty

What.

6/16/2010 12:32:12 AM

#1168555

aaa

You, out. We don't want any of you fucktards here.

6/16/2010 12:34:50 AM

#1168562

Lady Renae

IP check confirmed Brigged and DOS are not one and the same. Also, if this was a Poe, it was the best Poe I've ever seen. The conviction and resonance here is downright palpable, and I've heard words similar to these come out of people's mouths before, so it's a little scarier for me than for most.

I agree with those who said it before... "They need us to control them." = scariest six words on this whole bloody site.

Additionally, what's up with all the double posts here? I've already cleaned up three of them, all from different people in different IP pools, so I know it isn't a regional issue. O.o

6/16/2010 1:13:02 AM

#1168578

Murdin

Much, much better. That's Brigged in a nutshell. There's even a Godwin point !

6/16/2010 2:48:02 AM

#1168579

arcturus

Either I'm reading this wrong, or the only thing wrong with this quote is the suggestion of the use of force. We're better than that, but the general display of assholes that get quoted here tells me that to sit back and do nothing except laugh at them will lead us to be consumed by them. It's not like this hasn't happened before. 1776 was a fight by deists against the church of England and the first amendment makes that clear. If people are spreading incorrect knowledge that cannot stand up to scrutiny then they need to be scrutinised. And if in the process they smite you on the left cheek, then smash them on the right (sorry to quote satanism there.. I don't believe in Satan).

Population density is our biggest threat. Religions compel people to have as many babies as possible to expand their religion. The earth is incapable of growing enough food for this. Quality of life is higher in countries which are predominantly atheist. I wouldn't like to live under a Nazi regime, and that's why my grandfather fought against it. We are blindly allowing Christianity and Islam to creep into our post-enlightenmentist culture and the good work of the pioneers is under threat. Feel free to quote me as a fundie atheist. I won't be the slightest bit embarrassed.

6/16/2010 2:48:35 AM

#1168584

Wozza

Mental pointless rant which does nothing but damage the credibility of this board. Well done, dickhead.

And lay off the use of the word "we". They're your personal delusions you are describing, no-one elses.

6/16/2010 3:25:40 AM

#1168605

Kristine

@Wozza: "And lay off the use of the word "we". They're your personal delusions you are describing, no-one elses."

It's the majestic plural ;-)

6/16/2010 4:50:57 AM

#1168622

David B.

Over use of the pronoun "we" usually indicates the speaker is talking piss.

6/16/2010 5:24:25 AM

#1168628

Mister Spak

Briggeds ideas about the rabble needing the superior people to run their lives sounds a lot like the Leo Strauss version of neocons.

Also the christianist claim that without Jesus people will become murderers rapists homosexuals drug addicts etc.

There will always be lots of gullible people, and they will regularly be used by a highly competent sociopath to do his bidding. It just happens that in recent centuries the gullible people are programmed with religion.

6/16/2010 5:51:15 AM

#1168658

Unbeliever

As much as I want to state that this is a Poe, sadly, this one might be a genuine nutjob. Fanatics are not limited to the religious side only.

6/16/2010 7:06:23 AM

#1168662

SeekerLancer

Hello Mr. Megalomania.

6/16/2010 7:11:12 AM

#1168701

breakerslion

"...and that for everyone's overall saftey and wellbeing, it is us that needs to be in control."

Unless you were a Pogo fan, your grammar disqualifies you. Tell you what though, you give it a try, and I'll try to kill you.

6/16/2010 8:00:25 AM

#1168711

Saladin

Let me guess; you'll show them, you'll show them all, Mwahahahahahaha?

6/16/2010 8:26:37 AM

#1168734

Distind

@Disappointed

Generally anyone pretentious enough to call themselves a 'free thinker' has about as many issues as any fundie does.

But anyway, if it is a sockpuppet of one of the typical boys they did an impressive job of covering their IP tracks.

6/16/2010 8:54:53 AM

#1168742

DevilsChaplain

@Distind

What's wrong with associating with the term "free thinker"? I've always liked that term.

6/16/2010 9:05:41 AM

#1168786

Let's see how you will react when you're in the cage.

6/16/2010 9:42:13 AM

#1168821

Lady Renae

@DevilsChaplain

Calling yourself a "free thinker" presupposes that everyone else isn't. It's snobbish and elitist and no better than going around calling people "sheeple".

6/16/2010 10:08:24 AM

#1168850

DevilsChaplain

I don't find it snobbish and elitist. It only means a person is free from dogma, which rejects the notion of thinking outside the box.

6/16/2010 11:16:21 AM

#1168853

DevilsChaplain

Terms like "free-thinker" and "Bright" are really akin to homosexuals being called "gay", which meant happy. Calling homosexuals gay doesn't imply that heterosexuals are depressed or anything. Hell, Victor Stenger said that people who adhere to supernatural beliefs could be called "Supers"--and what's so bad about that?

6/16/2010 11:21:40 AM

#1168854

Almafeta

Objectivists say the darndest things?

6/16/2010 11:24:26 AM

#1168907

It's not like you have to be particularly gifted not to believe in God. This ain't no smarty party!

6/16/2010 1:27:53 PM

#1168943

@Papabear
You idiot.
FAITH AND REASON ARE POLAR OPPOSITES.

Some people NEED faith in order to function.
Eliminating that would just get a lot of suicidal people...

@DevilsChaplain
"Outside the box" is in it's own box often.
They follow their own self created Dogma.

6/16/2010 2:48:15 PM

#1168948

DevilsChaplain

"They follow their own self created Dogma."

How? How does freethought (relying on reason and science) lead to self-created dogma?

6/16/2010 2:54:19 PM

#1168954

Marc

Lady Renae

IP check confirmed Brigged and DOS are not one and the same. Also, if this was a Poe, it was the best Poe I've ever seen. The conviction and resonance here is downright palpable, and I've heard words similar to these come out of people's mouths before, so it's a little scarier for me than for most.

Unfortunately, that different IP addresses don't mean anything. I post from my home and from work, both of which have different IP addresses. Granted, I'm not saying that DOS and Briggid are the same people posting from different computers, as I've no evidence of that fact. I do find it interesting, however, that being total polar opposites, they never comment against each other, beyond DOS thanking Briggid for justifying his hatred of atheists.

6/16/2010 2:59:06 PM

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