Quote# 73840

(In a multi-post rant on why and how all religion should be eradicated in discussion of a fundie atheist quote:)

Histories greatest minds have always known that it is us and them, and that for everyone's overall saftey and wellbeing, it is us that needs to be in control. They do not have the capability to sustain themselves in a civilized manner for any great period of time. Their minds are simply not capable of it. They will never simply ease into an efficient system, they will always put base survival first, conjuring up the supernatural as explainations for things that they find no time to explain. They need us to control them. However, no animal likes to be caged. So what did we do? We used force. We forced them to see that they needed our guiding hand. And when they did see that they would flourish under our guidance, they accepted us as their rulers, and went straight back to not caring. So it is throughout history.

The problem is this. We become complacent. We begin to trust that their fledgling minds are capable of taking care of themselves. Finally, we think, surely now they are advanced and educated enough to stay out of trouble. But no, some asshole always sneaks in, and turns them against us for his own selfish goals. The rest can be seen in every history book ever written. That is why the methods I propose seem to not work - no-one has ever actually tried it in it's entirety. Pre-emptively taking control of the world in order to usher in lasting global peace? Do not be fooled into thinking Hitler and his ilk are counter-examples. He is an example of what happens when they are out of control.

If I sincerely believed that education and prosperity alone were enough to save the world, I would be singing their praises. Granted, they are very useful, but they are not enough. The most powerful organisations in the world know that as well as I do.

Brigged, FSTDT 85 Comments [6/15/2010 6:29:16 PM]
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Lady Renae

Ok, now THAT is a quote worth submitting... well done.

6/15/2010 6:28:53 PM


Fundies be everywhere

6/15/2010 6:39:04 PM


I'm suspecting reverse-poe with this person.

6/15/2010 6:41:50 PM

Lady Renae

Ok, what the flying monkeys is a REVERSE poe?? O.o

6/15/2010 6:44:28 PM

Reverend Jeremiah

Reverse Poe: a Christian acting like an atheist to make atheists look bad.

I doubt it..atheists can be just as fundy as Christians..and Im an atheist.

6/15/2010 6:47:14 PM


I don't know about reverse, but I'm pretty sure this douchebag is a Poe, and he's definitely a troll.

Like this:

And this:

Just my two cents.

6/15/2010 6:50:09 PM


@ Reverend,
I'm not disagreeing with you, they're certainly fundie athiests. It's just how over the top and vocal this Brigged person is that makes me suspect.

6/15/2010 6:52:00 PM


6/15/2010 6:53:03 PM


"ItBut no, some asshole always sneaks in, and turns them against us for his own selfish goal"

And you prove this well. If you're atheist, you give the rest a bad name. If Chrisian, you give them a bad name.

6/15/2010 7:02:49 PM



6/15/2010 7:04:57 PM


Keyboard Toughguy: Cause it's easy to be a 6'4" Olympic power lifter... from behind your monitor.

6/15/2010 7:08:28 PM

Rumpshaker Slim

This guy wants to replace religion with fascist atheism. Seems like a lateral move to me.

I'm still convinced this is just DOS trying to justify his irrational hatred.

6/15/2010 7:14:26 PM


Ya know, we could try burning these wrong-thinking Religious people at the stake pour encourager les autres.
It looks as if Torquemada has changed the details of the worldview he proposes to enforce upon everyone else. Secular Fundie for the lose.

6/15/2010 7:25:47 PM


I already told Brigged that his views are not only naive but also evil and cannot be accomplished without establishing a complete dictatorship the likes of which would make even Orwellian systems look like bastions of freedom. Oh, and inb4 DOS's boringly predictable "This is why I hate every single atheist in the entire history of the universe from the moment they're born".

6/15/2010 7:49:37 PM


@Rumpshaker Slim

I'm still convinced this is just DOS trying to justify his irrational hatred.

Same here. It seems suspicious that despite their polar opposite beliefs they never once commented on each other's posts.

6/15/2010 7:51:32 PM


"They need us to control them."

These are the six scariest words I have ever read.

6/15/2010 8:03:04 PM


I repeat: How to give secular people and skeptics a bad name 101.

This one gets an a.

And I add: The Vulcans are never going to let us join the cool spaceship club if people keep acting this way. (Sorry...I was raised by Trekkies. It just can't be helped.)

6/15/2010 8:05:34 PM

bananna terracotta pie

For an atheist, he sure wants to be God a whole lot.

6/15/2010 8:21:53 PM


Irony: not understanding that forcing people to believe what you want them to is exactly what went wrong in all your examples.

6/15/2010 8:32:56 PM


this guy is such a cartoon villain
is he a nut, a nut pretending to be another nut, or just trolling? who knows?
whatever the case, his ideas are bad enough that they need to be addressed.
@Lady Renae Thank you!

6/15/2010 9:25:23 PM


All religions SHOULD be eradicated, but by reason, not force. One can never make people believe something unless they buy in of their own free will.

6/15/2010 9:28:14 PM


Sorry I just don't have the attention span for this much word salad

6/15/2010 10:32:30 PM


Brigged, who says you are one of "us"? Maybe you are one of "them", who in your own words "need us to control them".
(Very scary words, indeed, I agree with agentCDE.)

Hitler saw himself as one of "us", just like you do.

6/15/2010 10:51:18 PM


Sadly this sounds like about 70% of the "free thinkers" I come across...

6/15/2010 11:23:29 PM

Jack Bauer

We don't need no education...
We don't need no thought control...

6/15/2010 11:30:09 PM

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