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[CITATION NEEDED] on those numbers. Besides, the "preborn" were neither viable nor did they possess even a rudimentary nervous system, as most abortions take place before 12 weeks.
6/11/2010 2:08:20 PM
wait, we're not allowed to use them for stem cell research, but jamming them into an oil pipe is okay?
6/11/2010 2:28:07 PM
So Someone asks you an honest question on how Obama should handle the oil crisis and you reply with a non sequiter about abortions?
6/11/2010 2:35:46 PM
Except neither one of those are, you know, ACTUAL plausible solutions for the stopping the oil spill you loon.
6/11/2010 3:09:57 PM
Clogging an oil pipe with fetuses?
You're a sick, sick bastard.
What mind vomit!
6/11/2010 3:47:47 PM
> He could jam [...] preborns into the opening of the gushing oil pipe. And second, he could just resign.
I have a few suggestions on how to improve your public image. The most obvious suggestion involves fire, and you dying in it. But I won't suggest that, because unlike you, I know the meaning of the phrase "constructive criticism". You have obviously never heard of this phrase, so I suggest you learn up on this subject and come back. Then we can start to debate like grown-ups.
6/11/2010 4:10:48 PM
Wait..Im an atheist and thats my food you are planning on wasting to clog up a hole.
You are going to starve me to death.
6/11/2010 5:35:01 PM
I believe the question was;
How the hell is Bush administrations destruction of safegaurds and Halliburtons (Cheney and Bush Inc) fuck up Obamas fault?
When was the last time congress fixed a oil leak? When they capped the oil wells they blew up
6/11/2010 6:21:00 PM
Yes, because the world really needs another 53 million mouths to feed. [shakes head]
6/11/2010 6:45:14 PM
1) gross and aborted fetuses aren't still around from Carter's Admin. moron... which brings up the obvious problem of stuffing a leak with organic material... and gross
2) Because leaders should always cut loose when the going gets tough. Obama is President, not Palin.
6/11/2010 7:00:32 PM
I find it fucking amazing that the same people that just a few months ago were screaming that government should just let big business handle everything without interference are now screaming that government should have shoved BP aside sooner.
Why the fuck should anyone but the so-called experts at BP have had the first shot at stemming the oil flow?
I guess Obama's big problem is he doesn't have a crystal ball to look into and see the future or he would have known BP was going to screw the pooch.
6/11/2010 7:14:41 PM
Since the vast majority of the "preborns" you're referring to would only have been microscopic speck-sized of clusters of cells, even fifty three million of them wouldn't come close to plugging up that hole.
Further proof, as if we needed any, that you anti-abortion idiots have absolutely no idea what the hell you're talking about.
6/11/2010 8:51:10 PM
That's terrible, and later on the next page, wondering1 from the forum will express her disgust on how and why you would bring up aborted fetuses into this discussion.
To FSTDT: Some of the CF members further down the forum do express some liberal political beliefs namely Bush's deregulation of buisness as part of the culprit to this disaster.
6/11/2010 9:51:03 PM
Or he could wait and see what the people who caused the mess were going to do about it before involving the Federal Government, which most of you guys think interfere TOO much in business affairs anyway.
6/11/2010 10:29:40 PM
Stuffing aborted fetuses into pipes to help stem an ecological disaster? Now THERE'S an idea!
Btw, Bush had 8 years to ban abortions. And he didn't. Maybe Republican candidates don't care about it as much as you do, or maybe, just maybe, the President doesn't have that much power.
6/11/2010 10:41:48 PM
What I want to know (besides where the hell the 53 million figure came from) is who decided Obama had to "do" anything. Does he look like an engineer to you? (Actually, he does look a lot like somebody I know who's studying engineering, but that's neither here nor there.)
6/12/2010 12:21:15 AM
53 million legal abortions...that's about right for the past 34 years including those of the Carter Presidency. That works out to about 1.5 million per year which is about what it is from year to year and has not varied a great deal since.
An interesting thought here is that after the Row v Wade decision, there was no sudden drop in the number of babies being born in the US. From this, one could reasonably assume that when abortions were illegal, there were probably the same 1.5 million abortions yearly being performed illegally...each and every of those women involved, as well as their abortionists were criminals subject to severe penalties including prison time. Many of these women paid the ultimate price by dying at the hands of an untrained abortionist, IIRC these usually numbered between 15,000 to 30,000 yearly. That, in itself, is enough to justify legalized abortion regardless of ideology.
6/12/2010 12:55:11 AM
But these anti-abortionists will continue to be impressed by large numbers and will also continue to make up horror stories about vast amounts of dead foetuses piling up somewhere.
On another blog, I encountered a commenter who averred that he personally knew of an abortion clinic near to his home that did 15,000 abortions daily. He even said that he had visited the clinic after hours and counted their little corpses heartlessly tossed into a dumpster behind the clinic.
When I pointed out to him the impossibility of such numbers (works out to more than 5 million abortions yearly for that one clinic), he backed off and adjusted his numbers to about 8,000 per year. And then I pointed out to him that dumpsters at non-residential sites are usually picked up daily and medical waste is never permitted, therefore he would not have been able to count ANY foetal corpses there. It was then that he left that forum and I never saw him again.
These people think that just because they will believe anything their pastor or priest shoves at them, that everyone else will believe their own "clever" lies. It is enough to disgust anyone with a brain and is sufficient reason to dismiss them and their statements peremptorily.
6/12/2010 12:55:45 AM
He could have taken over BP and made them clean up the mess, except that would be governmaent takeover of the free market, and we can't have that.
6/12/2010 7:26:20 AM
If jamming the pipe full of drilling mud didn't stop it, how would 53,000,000 fetuses stop it? Besides, how would the President stop abortions? He can't amend the Constitution. Conservative Republicans held the White House for 20 out of 36 years since Roe v. Wade. Did they stop it? Do you think if Obama resigned, Joe Biden would do a better job of containing the oil spill? Have any Republicans come up with a better plan? No. They're keeping their mouths shut and letting Obama try to deal with it, because they figure they can get some political mileage out of the whole disaster.
6/12/2010 7:51:10 AM
...Right, do you have any *constructive* suggestions or are you just looking for an excuse to get on a soap box about your pet issue?
6/12/2010 7:55:45 AM
Wait, if those babies were aborted during the Carter administration, how is he doing to do that?, with a time maschine or what?. And yes, let's not forget it, you're against abortion, right?
6/12/2010 10:30:47 AM
That's funny, because if they only reported one in three, why do you know that they only reported one in three. Guttmacher, a very reliable website, states that from 1973 to 2010 about 43,000,000 legal abortions were performed. That's a fact, and it's true, and Planned Parenthood does not try and hide it due to the fact that IT'S WHAT THEY DO. To give a little info, I work for Planned Parenthood. They are very proud that they have gained the support of so many Americans, and no, they don't hide that they give abortions. It's an option that they offer to women, that they have fought for.
6/12/2010 1:08:14 PM
Percy Q. Shunn
Whenever I hear this kind of horseshit, I like to picture a madman running amok, forcibly scraping the wombs of unsuspecting mothers-to-be; with the full support of the law on his side, of course.
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