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#1163398
John_in_Oz
If you're whining like that you're already a pussy. Suck it up princess.
6/1/2010 2:11:32 AM
#1163408
Zimmer
Waah waah, women aren't letting me oppress them anymore!
6/1/2010 2:57:55 AM
#1163409
LDM
Nah, we just enjoy watching you misogynistic pigs squirm.
6/1/2010 3:09:08 AM
#1163412
Blasphemina
Why shouldn't we have a house and a job and control over our own lives? Why can't you impotent little boys find a way to feel like men without oppressing someone you perceive to be weaker than you and/or different?
6/1/2010 3:19:28 AM
#1163413
Wozza
Looks like equality and human rights are alive and growing in America. Many more reports like this and I might let my daughters holiday there.
6/1/2010 3:19:42 AM
#1163419
/American Women/
Why just American women? What about English women, Japanese women, Mexican women, Egyptian women, etc.?
/The house/
It was you misogynistic idiots who kept trumpeting throughout the centuries that a "woman's place was the home," so don't blame us for that one. If you're complaining that she wants to OWN the house, well, yeah. I'd think so, given that we do the most work keeping it up and cleaning it.
/the jobs/
Oh, yes, just like the anti-immigrant hysterics. "They're taking away all our jobs! Waaah!" Newsflash, women don't want all the jobs; they just want the ability to have a job and to be paid equally for that job. Not all women want to stay in the house.
/the control over what is done./
Funny, you'd think that was what men have wanted all these years: hence the patriarchy and institutionalized sexism.
/God did not call women to take over/
Yeah, Esther, Judith, Mary Magdalene, and Deborah were just supposed to roll over and let men do everything. What about the American women who don't believe in God or in that particular God?
/yet, American men are oppressed if not feminized by this political agenda./
Yes, we are oppressing you by saying that you should play nicely with others, the same message that teachers tell preschoolers. And, oh, no, not that "feminization!" God forbid men become anything like women!
/Some say Satan got kicked out of Heaven for trying to take over. Women are taking over./
And you wonder why Lilith left Eden to go and join Satan.
Note to Revived, if you need somebody to kick around just so that you can feel better about yourself, that doesn't make you a man, that makes you a BULLY. And when you go so far as to deliberately oppress that somebody and dehumanize her, that makes you a monster.
6/1/2010 3:57:38 AM
#1163422
Saladin
"I can't oppress women? Help, help, I'm being oppressed by women!"
6/1/2010 4:01:19 AM
#1163426
Forwarded to Sarah Palin for 2012.
6/1/2010 4:34:09 AM
#1163427
Swede
And American men don't want all of that, as well?
Why can't we work together, share the resources equally, control together?
Why must it be either men or women?
Most feminists want equality, i.e. equal salary for equal jobs, equal opportunities, equal responsibilities.
Not more than, or instead of, but equal.
@ DOS et al
That's strange, guys say "hi" to women every day at work, but I have never heard of a sexual harassment case on any of my five workplaces. Maybe we Swedish women have had bearable living conditions long enough to have done with the "revenge"?
See also above re. equal opportunities AND equal responsibilities.
6/1/2010 5:18:42 AM
#1163433
The L
Speak for yourself. The only thing I want control of is my own self and my own life. I don't WANT to control anybody else, and no sane person should.
6/1/2010 5:45:52 AM
#1163446
JohnTheAtheist
The emanicipation of women is what can save this world. You want to destroy Islam? Free their women.
6/1/2010 5:59:35 AM
#1163463
God didn't say that opressing others was a good thing. Your point?
6/1/2010 6:39:01 AM
#1163466
Anon-e-moose
"They want everything. The house, the jobs, the control over what is done"
And that is a bad thing... how? Frankly, they couldn't do any worse than the American men have done with the US to date.
"God did not call women to take over; yet, American men are oppressed if not feminized by this political agenda. Some say Satan got kicked out of Heaven for trying to take over. Women are taking over."
When God made men, she was only kidding.
6/1/2010 6:44:27 AM
#1163568
DOS Et AL
If women wanted equality rather than revenge, then divorce courts wouldnt be so lopsided infavor of women, including adulteresses and drug addict women. True equallity would mean any one in a marriage comes out with what they came in, MAN or WOMAN, nothing more.
Yeah women talk about equality, but are perfectly happy to get preferential treatment via affirmative action and still have the nerve to call that equal.
6/1/2010 10:52:51 AM
#1163619
DOS Et AL
@Anon-e-moose
So you admit to supporting reverse sexism as opposed to equality? Giving womyn all power and men none? Thanks for proving my point.
6/1/2010 2:07:46 PM
#1163677
Amadaun
DOS, women still don't get equal pay for equal work, so how on earth are they getting preferential treatment? Affirmative action exists to institutionalize against preferential treatment. For white guys, who have historically tended to overwhelmingly admit one another. It isn't everywhere. Orchestras, for example, got integrated by making the review boards judge blind, so they graded the music and not the face.
I've never studied divorce law, but your model would only work if they haven't acquired anything since the wedding. Like houses, cars, or even televisions. And who do you think 'brings' the kids to a marriage?
I do know that whoever gets the kids gets money to support them from the other parent, unless the custodial parent is rich and the non-custodial penniless. Which makes sense. Society frowns on making kids and then deciding not to take care of them.
And all I got from anon-e-moose is that 'women in charge' is just as good as 'men in charge.' Equality is better than either, but why should one be worse?
6/1/2010 4:41:53 PM
#1163679
DOS Et Al
"Affirmative action exists to institutionalize against preferential treatment"
@Amadaun
No IT institutionalizes preferential treatment. What do you call giving some one who is just as qualified the job because of their race or skin, rather than merit? Racism/sexism...oh wait thats affirmative action isnt it? Why should i be punished for what OTHER white men do or have done in the past because im a man or white? Answer me that? (i doubt you will)
"And who do you think 'brings' the kids to a marriage?"
Yeah because women in marriage just immaculately concieve... HA HA HA HA. No man no baby (in a marriage). Each person should keep what they aquire, things kept including and ESPECIALLY cash should be what each has earned. Why should a woman, or a man be entitled to half the others bank account, money they didnt even earn, or half the house if one paid for 90% of it. Because they lived together? Makes no logical sense. Why do you think wealthy men insist on pre-nups. Men always get raped in marriage unfairly regardless of the circumstance. Whats so wrong with keeping what you bought or had/aquired and them keeping what they bought or aquired. Why should any one be entitled to some one elses property?
And all I got from anon-e-moose is that 'women in charge' is just as good as 'men in charge.' Equality is better than either, but why should one be worse?
Read its response; it clearly said women would be better having ALL power (the response to the original post)
6/1/2010 4:48:42 PM
#1163693
Berny
Shut up and do the dishes already, you whining asshole.
6/1/2010 5:21:27 PM
#1163702
Amadaun
Affirmative action establishes moderate quotas, sometimes, which might occasionally exclude some white men from being hired even though they could have done the job.
However, the lack of affirmative action excludes very nearly all non-whites and non-males from being hired even when they could have done the job /better./ How is this more just? Or even a better business model? This may change. It is changing, as assumptions alter in an affirmative-action-influenced world with reasonably integrated workplaces. But women make 77 cents to the dollar, nonwhite races are underrepresented in many fields, and people who think they have the primary right to everything, and everyone else is stealing when they have much of anything, are still running around in excessive numbers.
Given the size of quotas, your complaint makes sense only if you believe that the top 25% of your demographic are somehow all more deserving than the top 5% of every other demographic.
...no, 'who do you think brings children' was to say NO ONE DOES. Neither spouse can claim sole responsibility. So how exactly do you propose to split them? Or any other collective asset?
While people are married, they are a legal collective entity to a considerable degree. If the domestic arrangements were such that a women relied on her husband for income, and had no career in favor of keeping the house, and then the union around which this lifestyle was based dissolves, she has nothing, not even the potential and youth she brought to the marriage. Or are you saying nonmonetary contributions to a family aren't worth anything, and everyone should have a paying job or screw them? Funny. I thought. . .
What judge splits a house in half?
Smart Muslim women in more liberal communities have also written pre-nups for centuries now. Is this some kind of proof that all men will be polygynists given a legal loophole for it?
6/1/2010 6:16:36 PM
#1163728
DOS Et AL
@Amadaun
"Affirmative action establishes moderate quotas, sometimes, which might occasionally exclude some white men from being hired even though they could have done the job."
So as a white man, why should i support discrimination against myself for being white and a man? Your reasons why i should support discrimination against myself are not convincing , and "ocassionally" is actually often, if youd care to actually look at the statistics. See what i mean. Its NOT equlity, its reverse sexism...explain to me how it is NOT? I believe in a meritocracy, sadly feminists DO NOT. You are wasting your breath if you think ill ever change my opinion on that or that AMERICAN women want revenge and superiority rather than Equal rights. I dont agree with the guy for saying God...blah blah blah. But everything else is true.
Also show me proof that lack of affirmative action ALWAYS results in exclusion...are you know saying all white men are racist and sexist? Great generalization huh?
"nonwhite races are underrepresented in many fields"
Did it ever occur to you they might NOT want to work in those fields, you know voluntarily not want to work there? Not every one wants to be a lawyer etc... White people are underrepresented in football, and basket ball. Should we force more white who dont have talent in the leagues just to make things look right? Underrepresentation =/= descrimination always.
6/1/2010 8:12:04 PM
#1163770
Dear DOS,
Stop whining. Affirmative action doesn't exclude any white men from anywhere. Look statistics of who takes most jobs. And concerning divorce, have you thought that maybe most custodies are granted to mothers because they take care of the children, whereas fathers DON'T?.
6/2/2010 12:36:13 AM
#1163867
@DOS et al
For being a Christian, you're too quick to justify men who use women like tools, ala Love Shy and who whine because women with better qualifications take jobs which men, in the past, would take for the mere fact of being men.
6/2/2010 8:56:53 AM
#1163901
katie5000
American Women
They want everything.
"I want everything, and I want to take it myself!" -- Dynasty Warriors Gundam 2
6/2/2010 11:40:03 AM
#1163926
Pule Thamex
Who couldn't take over a deluded fool who believes in invisible sky fairies? Satan got kicked out of Heaven you say. Well of course he did. My poor injured rabbit can easily kick Satan out of his hutch, so that's no big surprise. It's only weak idiots like you who are unable to handle Satan ... and women.
6/2/2010 12:49:29 PM
#1163927
DOS Et AL
@#1163770
Citation needed. So affirmative action doesnt give preference to women over an equally or better qualified man? Yeah fucking right... Oh and the reason they give custody to adulterous or drug addict mothers when the father is perfectly normal, is because they are more competant right? HA! Yeah, show me proof that affirmative action DOES not reverse descriminate over equally qualified or better qualified men, or white people.
"For being a Christian, you're too quick to justify men who use women like tools, ala Love Shy and who whine because women with better qualifications take jobs which men, in the past, would take for the mere fact of being men."
First off i DONT agree with everything or every one on LS. However i agree with them more than i do a bunch of atheists waiving cliched "advice"/veiled insults, who have never been in the position i or most LS have been regarding relationships, and cant possibly comprehend the problems steming from that. ( i actually dont agree with men who believe women should be beaten.. GASP!! right?)
Secondly i dont whine because women with BETTER qualifications get jobs from men, i believe in MERITOCRACY (big word i know, look it up), i get mad when lesser or equally qualified women get a job over men just because of their sex, and its gets called "equality"...gee some one getting a job because of sex or race rather or in addition to qualifications...hmm thats sounds like...descrimination...OH SNAP! Its not because white men all deserve to be punished for the sins of the passed. Thanks for correcting me.
6/2/2010 12:51:54 PM
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