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I'm absolutely floored over the way our society has not only accepted all manner of sin, but has actually embraced it. There was a time when decent girls didn't move in and set up housekeeping with their boyfriends. If they were engaged, they still knew that shacking up together was unacceptable. Now, it seems that every couple moves in together and may have several children, whether they ever get married or not. There was also a time when the conventional mores required that a girl's virginity wa to be valliantly protected until her wedding night. It was a serious matter for a woman to be a virgin until that night. I remember when my 2 oldest children were still home and I noticed that, more and more, TV shows and movies began equating dating with having sex. The characters might have just met in a bar and decide to go elsewhere together and, before they said goodbye, they fell into bed together. Now, what you hear on TV shows and movies is that a girl should hang on to her virginity until she's ready to give it up and she'll instinctively know when that time comes. Seriously? So, now we have 14 year olds routinely deciding that they're ready. The moral decay that I have seen take place in this country sickens me. How are our children supposed to know where the boundary lines for their behavior are? It's as if we're teaching children that they have a right and a responsibility to be their own gods, doing what's right in their own eyes. Yeah, that didn't work out so well for Israel.

jadeeyes, RR 71 Comments [5/26/2010 6:27:19 AM]
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#1161259
Dan Onymous

Bring back chastity belts!!!



Oh, and a scold's bridle for jadeeyes as well please.

5/26/2010 6:33:15 AM
#1161262
shadkat

I think that a couple living together before they get married is a good idea. It gives them time to figure out how to share a space before anything gets made official.

And why did the sentence about a girl's virginity being valiantly protected give me an image of a miniature knight hovering around a girl's panties?

5/26/2010 6:36:49 AM
#1161266
D Laurier.

You remember watching a '50s era TV show.
Through most of history marriage was a privelege for the ruling class. Only kings and nobles married... Peasants and merchants moved in and set up housekeeping together.
It was not untill the renasance (1400s) that marriage was extended to wealthy merchants.
And peasants didnt start marrying untill the mid 1600s.
Even in the late 1800s, it was customary for couples who could not afford to pay for a marriage, to move in together and live as a couple while they saved money to pay for a marriage.
Through the early 20th century, most brides were visibly pregnant on their wedding day.

Also, Historicaly most girls were active by age 14.

5/26/2010 6:38:27 AM
#1161274


Welcome to the 21st Century, fundie. Did you not notice it was 2010 yet?

5/26/2010 6:47:55 AM
#1161275
TGRwulf

Why do I suddenly have "New Dark Ages" by Bad Religion playing in my head? Hmmm...

5/26/2010 6:48:41 AM
#1161277


At that time too, people didn't know, or, rather, didn't seem to know, like you, that you need two to tango. That's why it was full of brothels.

5/26/2010 6:49:20 AM
#1161280
John

How are our children supposed to know where the boundary lines for their behavior are?

There are still boundary lines. They're just not where you learned they were. You're just pissed because you were stupid enough to blindly accept the boundaries of your grandmother's generation, which grew up before effective birth control, while people who keep their eyes open to the modern world and realized there was no longer any sword of pregnancy hanging over their heads, went out and had fun.

5/26/2010 6:49:55 AM
#1161282
Sweet Fancy Moses

My favourite part of religion: calling immoral that which is encoded in our basic instincts.

5/26/2010 6:50:36 AM
#1161288
Doubting Thomas

Yeah, because nobody ever had premarital sex before the 1960's. And even then married couples slept in twin beds.

"How are our children supposed to know where the boundary lines for their behavior are?"

I think that's the responsibility of their parents.

5/26/2010 6:52:06 AM
#1161291
Mister Spak

All this started when women were allowed to vote.

5/26/2010 6:54:05 AM
#1161292
The L

"There was also a time when the conventional mores required that a girl's virginity wa to be valliantly protected until her wedding night."

But a boy's virginity was considered something to lose at the first opportunity--and not to another boy. This double-standard, and its obvious disconnect from common sense, has finally been abandoned. You should be happy.

5/26/2010 6:54:26 AM
#1161302
Hades

Yes, in this country they do have the right to do what's right in their own eyes as long as it is in compliance with the law of the land.

How other people live their lives is none of your business.

5/26/2010 6:59:22 AM
#1161311
Lucilius

There was a time when men thought they owned women, and so isolated them to make sure that any kids – also "property" – were their own. That's where your good ol' days come from.

5/26/2010 7:04:50 AM
#1161345
aaa

Yet another old fart complaining about those darn kids.

5/26/2010 7:29:05 AM
#1161363
Blasphemina

Okay, it was just typical fundie rhetoric until the last line. WHY do they have to shove Israel into everything?

5/26/2010 7:57:30 AM
#1161364
Quantum Mechanic

"There was a time when decent girls didn't move in and set up housekeeping with their boyfriends."

O'rly?

5/26/2010 7:58:17 AM
#1161370
breakerslion

1. Sin is a bullshit concept, not to be confused with ethics or morality.

2. In all probability, your mother and your grandmother both knew how to give a good blow job before they were married. Mayberry only existed as a false front. Now we admit it. Get over it.

5/26/2010 8:11:01 AM
#1161373
Jezebel's Evil Sister

Many, many years after happily attaining the status of non-virgin at the age of 14, I met a man at a bar. We had sex the next evening, dated for over two years, and then he moved in with me.

It is now 21 years later. We've managed to live together in a committed relationship all this time and don't see it ending as long as we're both alive. We might even actually get married one of these days -- for the tax benefits as we near retirement age. Neither one of us ever did anything we're ashamed of. All is well.

So, pardon me, Miss Prudella, but I don't give a flying fuck what you think.

5/26/2010 8:14:34 AM
#1161395
Princess Rot

Ah. Such is the way of the world. When older people are dissatisfied, regretful or plain past it, they complain how awful it is that young people today are having sex.

5/26/2010 8:51:25 AM
#1161397
Headache

USA - a country overflowing with religious nonsense is the western country with the highest amount of teen pregnancies.

In other less religious countries with better sex education and much lower age of consent, the amount of teen pregnancies is a small fraction of the US number.

5/26/2010 8:57:33 AM
#1161403


@ D. Laurier

"Through the early 20th century, most brides were visibly pregnant on their wedding day".

"Most" brides would be a huge overstatement, at least for mid-nineteenth to early twentieth centuries. Citations please.

5/26/2010 9:04:48 AM
#1161407


Y'know, it turns out that a couple moving in together before marriage is a good idea. That they can figure out if they can actually stand living together before they tie the knot (and would have to get it annulled or get a divorce to fix that mistake).

5/26/2010 9:08:10 AM
#1161408
Anon-e-moose

"I'm absolutely floored over the way our society has not only accepted all manner of sin, but has actually embraced it." tl;dr...

Well, if you don't want to be part of this world you're in, there's a simple solution - and to accelerate that lovely (C)Rapture you lot on Ruptured Retards have a hardon for:

Drink the Kool-Aid. 909 people at Jonestown can't be wrong after all.

And remember: 'Suicide is a sin' is purely Catholic doctrine. And I know you Protestant fundies don't want anything do do with Popery in all it's evil forms don't you?

Amirite?

>:D

5/26/2010 9:09:06 AM
#1161410


TV and movies have revolved around those themes since the sixties. Did you just crawl out from under a rock?

5/26/2010 9:12:18 AM
#1161415
Pacal

Yep we have got to preserve all that Virginal Cunt for throbbing Patriarchal Cock to fuck.

5/26/2010 9:17:26 AM
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