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Heterosexual marriage laws exist because in traditional society, there is a compelling national interest in providing protected status to a stay-at-home spouse (June Cleaver) in the event of a tradegy involving the breadwinner. At the same time, there is no compelling national interest in providing the same protection to an unemployed homosexual bus boy whose lover dies of AIDS.
Stereotypes? Sure, but they explain why marriage in the mainstream should be protected, while "marriage" among the fringers is just another form of tax evasion and entitlement.

Bernard, Free Republic 93 Comments [5/14/2010 10:52:52 AM]
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#1157938
Rumpshaker Slim

Republicans are all greedy, self-absorbed, bloodthirsty gun nuts.

Christians are all naive, cowardly, whineing, sheep who are just waiting for the world to end.

Stereotypes? Sure, but they make me feel better about myself.

5/14/2010 1:28:03 PM
#1157948
Cy

So what you're saying is that someone who, for example, is forced to quit work and stay at home to care for a loved one in the final stages of a terrible and terminal illness doesn't deserve any kind of protection or care from society if they happen to be gay. I'm just curious as to why you think this should stop at marriage. Why not forbid the pair of them from receiving any kind of government benefits like incapacity or carers benefit, forbid them from obtaining any government-provided health care, and let them both be thrown out onto the streets? I'm sure that's in the national interest. Somehow.

5/14/2010 1:56:38 PM
#1157949
WMDKitty

Then straight marriage is ALSO tax-evasion and entitlement.

Stupid jackass.

5/14/2010 2:03:51 PM
#1157952
Canadia

Vile.

5/14/2010 2:14:10 PM
#1157955
lemurtarian

"unemployed homosexual bus boy"

This probably shouldn't be what bothers me most about this particular screed but how the hell is the homosexual whose lover died of AIDS unemployed if he's a bus boy? It doesn't exactly pay well but it's a job. The dude just contradicted himself in four words

5/14/2010 2:21:09 PM
#1157957
Blasphemina

Even most heterosexuals can't make it on one income any more. If my marriage isn't about tax evasion, then there isn't any reason anyone else's should be labeled as such. The legal rights that come with marriage are about much more than "June Cleaver" popping out kids and working around the clock to keep them fed and in clean clothes. It's also about June being on Ward's insurance and visiting him in the hospital and making healthcare decisions for him. It's about her keeping the house when he dies suddenly instead of being tossed out by his sister that never liked her. I'm sick of your stupid stereotypes. What if a gay couple wants one spouse to be able to stay at home with their child while the other works? They should be able to do that just like any straight couple who can swing it financially. And do you think a straight person has never lost a spouse to AIDs? You are a true fucking moron and a blight on humanity.

5/14/2010 2:38:12 PM
#1157963
Shadoboy

You basically said it all when you admited you base everything in stereotypes.

5/14/2010 3:13:01 PM
#1157971
GigaGuess

@lemurtarian
I assume he means "House Boy" which is a term for a usually younger man who is essentially "kept," and doesn't work, save to keep house, and such, as well as, well...sex.

5/14/2010 3:23:51 PM
#1157977
Godbuster

Why not work towards a society where both parents don't have to work in order to barely make ends meet while the fat cats drain the middle class of money while they are leading the uneducated populace to their doom using unabashed religiously inspired bullshit propaganda to distract them?

Face it: Your deceitful heroes fuck you harder than any homosexual bus boy ever could and you enjoy it.

5/14/2010 3:43:46 PM
#1157989


"unemployed homosexual bus boy"

Unemployed bus boy? That's an oxymoron! And actually impossible!

Also, most couple need both members to work full-time just to make ends meet what with today's high cost of living.

5/14/2010 4:54:12 PM
#1158004
I read about the afterlife

I have met NO homosexual bus boys whose lover has died of AIDS. I have met homosexual boys who are high up in the fashion industry who, undoubtedly, make more money than you can dream of.

5/14/2010 6:01:46 PM
#1158014
pete

These poor freaks seem to be utterly ignorant that marriage is older than their precious cult and exists in many forms among countless societies.

5/14/2010 6:56:49 PM
#1158036


"The Bible contains 6 admonishments to homosexuals and 362 to heterosexuals. This doesn't mean that God doesn't love heterosexuals, it's just that they need more supervision." - Lynn Lavner

5/14/2010 9:26:35 PM
#1158042
Anemone

What about homosexuals who have jobs and pay taxes? Don't they have a voice?

5/14/2010 10:02:13 PM
#1158045
rubber chicken

Making right wing self-loathing closet cases such as yourself feel all righteous and holier than thou =/= 'compelling national interest'

5/14/2010 10:08:53 PM
#1158051
Boy Wonder

Stereotypes? Sure, but they explain why you have no qualms about treating homosexuals (and women) as somehow less than human.

5/14/2010 10:28:58 PM
#1158054


Yeah....stereotypes are SO mainstream and traditional....

5/14/2010 11:16:25 PM
#1158057
Brenz

What exactly are you on about?

5/14/2010 11:26:23 PM
#1158069
JonnyTruant

Um... unemployed busboy? I mean your entire rant is full of wrong, but this one should be obvious even to you.

5/15/2010 12:32:29 AM
#1158078
Saladin

Who the fuck is June Cleaver?

5/15/2010 2:46:43 AM
#1158087
John_in_Oz

What is this protected status you're dribbling shit about?
You're confusing the perks provided to spouses in the last few decades with marriage laws.
Historically, the word 'widow' was a synonym for prostitute. It's only in the wealthy 20th Century that there has been any such protections.
Superannuation, custody, pensions, inheritance, visitation rights have all been amended by people voting themselves free stuff. Not a matter of national interest at all.

5/15/2010 5:15:55 AM
#1158089


Uh, most of the marriage laws have nothing to do with the death of either spouse. They're about property and child custody rights, tax advantages, and so forth, which concern two living parties--like a business partnership. Try again.

5/15/2010 5:20:41 AM
#1158090
Swede

Stay-at-home-spouse is a marginal phenomenon, that just existed for a few short decades in the middle of last century.
That was not why marriage laws were originally formed some twenty thousand years ago or so.
Marriage laws are for the protection of property, genealogy and children.

Why is it more important to protect an unemployed waitress, married to a man who dies of AIDS, than an unemployed bus boy, married to a man who dies of AIDS?
And how do you evade taxes by getting married to a person of the same sex? I don't remember any difference occurring when me and hubby married after living together for ten years. But maybe only same-sex couples get tax deductions?

A marriage says you are legally "entitled" to take care of your spouse, and to make sure that he or she can live at the same standard as you can.

5/15/2010 5:37:07 AM
#1158107
nazani14

By this logic, the barren or unmarried woman, or the woman whose kids have left home is exactly as superfluous as the homosexual male. You can see this attitude in action in Afghanistan, where widows and older women are treated as worthless.

5/15/2010 7:15:28 AM
#1158118
John Marley

That's just...

Oh, wait. Free Republic. Nevermind.

5/15/2010 8:08:30 AM
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