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#1141763
Thrutch
There is idiocy but lower than that are comments like this.
America needs more idiots
4/1/2010 11:51:10 AM
#1141764
Lucilius
Show me these hordes of desperate British and Canadians. Show me where you found these legions of expatriate doctors.
What's that? They all came out of your ass? I thought so.
4/1/2010 11:54:28 AM
#1141767
Reverend Jeremiah
"There’s a huge difference between Medicare and the socialized medicine Obama and Pelosi are trying to force upon us."
You dont even understand the term "socialized medicine" do you. Medicare IS "socialized medicine" dumb ass
"Namely, Medicare is designed to help people like your mom. Socialized medicine is designed to KILL people like your mom by DENYING them care."
And of course what you are saying is NOT part and parcel of the tea party's need to stir up more fear to get more members to vote super hard right conservative. Do you not realize your contradictions? I do, and thats why I laugh at tea party people. Stop drinking the tea they serve you."
"Why are you people so dense?"
Perhaps it has to do with people like you spreading lies and fear mongering to garner politic wins for your party and most people just accept things like this from people like you because you say it with such enthusiasm and emotion. Most people let emotion rather than reason guide their lives. Its easier to knee jerk things like this than to explain it rationally.
"People from countries like Canada and England come HERE for treatment because our current system is SUPERIOR to their’s."
Where is your citation? Did you take into account for population density as well? How was their system BEFORE socialized medicine? Are they being turned down for "existing conditions"? etc..
"Their doctors come here too because they’re actually ALLOWED TO PRACTICE MEDICINE instead of denying care to people so they’ll DIE SLOW AND PAINFUL DEATHS."
Right..lol...ALL of their doctors come here. Do you not know how stupid that sounds? Their health plans would never survive if what you say is true. Sure, some of their doctors come here for many reasons. One is to take advantage of the encouragement to gouge prices and rape our insurance companies.
"You have to wait MONTHS and even YEARS for treatment under socialized medicine that you can get under our current system INSTANTLY."
If you are going in for a nose job or something non-mortal. They allow private insurance in their countries for things like that. They will NOT sit back and let someone bleed to death in their waiting room dummy.
"Get it through your head. This “health care plan” is REALLY a “DEATH CARE PLAN.”
And thats why only Pelosi and Obama shoved it down our throats. It never went through discussions or votes. It was SHOVED onto us by 2 people. I never will understand how the Republicans like yourself consider a successful bill being passed without a majority vote from Republicans as "shoved unto us". Or that you will take back "your" America. You people keep trying to divide.
"You all should’ve voted for McCain."
The same McCain that you theocons keep complaining is a RINO? You people are a funny lot. By the way, were is the fundy in this quote?
4/1/2010 11:56:12 AM
#1141771
Canadiest
You know NOTHING of Canada or England, stop pretending you do. Statistics have been provided during this campaign that show both Canada and England have less waiting time then the U.S. and the U.S. has a higher child mortality rate and your citizens die from lack of coverage right now.
4/1/2010 12:00:44 PM
#1141773
campbunny
Are you telling me that some of the millions of immigrants to the US are DOCTORS? :O
4/1/2010 12:02:54 PM
#1141774
Serph-no-Okami
You're absolutely right! That's why all those people from Europe, the ones with socialised health care, come to America to get proper treatments instantly!
Wait...
4/1/2010 12:03:50 PM
#1141777
Random Guy
"designed to KILL people like your mom by DENYING them care"
William Shatner, is that you?
4/1/2010 12:11:20 PM
#1141781
D
"People from countries like Canada and England come HERE for treatment because our current system is SUPERIOR to their’s."
Wait? What's that? I couldn't hear you over my health care benefits here in Canada. You'll have to speak louder.
4/1/2010 12:20:31 PM
#1141784
JohnTheAtheist
Please stop watching Fox News. It is rotting your brain.
On second thought, maybe Barack Obama is trying to use his vast intellect to make people suffer slow and agonzing deaths for no apparent reason. Good call.
4/1/2010 12:24:05 PM
#1141786
D Laurier.
As a Canadian who recieved treatement in Canada just three weeks after diagnosis of my cyst... Jami is a liar.
4/1/2010 12:29:40 PM
#1141789
loser_sneeze
Uh, I moved to the UK for school and had access to healthcare. I would not have had the same luxury as a student in the US. Just sayin...
4/1/2010 12:32:56 PM
#1141792
aaa
"There’s a huge difference between Medicare and the socialized medicine Obama and Pelosi are trying to force upon us. Namely, Medicare is designed to help people like your mom. Socialized medicine is designed to KILL people like your mom by DENYING them care."
Fox-brand bullshit. Has no argument that makes sense in this or the ten next universes.
"Why are you people so dense? People from countries like Canada and England come HERE for treatment because our current system is SUPERIOR to their’s. Their doctors come here too because they’re actually ALLOWED TO PRACTICE MEDICINE instead of denying care to people so they’ll DIE SLOW AND PAINFUL DEATHS."
This one starts off with a classic ad hom, going to an inane argument with nothing to back it up.
The US healthcare system is shit to everyone except the insurance companies and the super-rich. The main reason why patients are transferred to your country is to treat extraordinarily tricky cases. And oh, the HM's government pays it. The main reason why doctors go to set up shop in the states is mainly because of better pays.
"You have to wait MONTHS and even YEARS for treatment under socialized medicine that you can get under our current system INSTANTLY."
Bullshit. What is your income level? Are you some kind of an overpaid clown who pretends to be a newsman? Are you a fucking idiot or do you live in an alternative universe? Either way, you will get your ass raped by the insurance companies for getting sick in the first place. If you are part of the lower class and you get sick, you are royally fucked regardless of how it ends. Either you get bankrupted and be forced to live the rest of your life in horrible conditions or end up as a corpse.
"Get it through your head. This 'health care plan' is REALLY a 'DEATH CARE PLAN.'"
Get a real job, you cunt.
"You all should’ve voted for McCain."
Fuck you too.
4/1/2010 12:55:58 PM
#1141794
Horsefeathers
I'm pretty sure that all of this is the exact opposite of reality.
4/1/2010 12:58:01 PM
#1141797
The Finn
to copy "D":
I'm sorry, I can't hear you over my free education and health care.
Honestly, What the fuck is wrong with the states?
The proportion of downright lunacy is higher than anywhere else; anti-health care, anti-renewable energy, anti-EVOLUTION (because lets face it, no matter how many times we hear it, it does not get any less crazier). What the hell is wrong with these people? o.o
4/1/2010 1:08:04 PM
#1141798
Misty
Our doctors go down in the US. That is true. But it's not because of the bullshit of care denial. It's because you pay them better and don't treat them like overworked shit. Canada's healthcare system is not a shining example of awesome like fatass douches like Moore would paint. The staff is overworked, underpaid, and the whole system is crumbling under a massive bureaucracy. Waiting months for care is not rare. ERs in my area are often suffering from 24 hours to 48 hours wait times (I always tend to call it quits after 12 hours or so unless I'm bleeding or something.) Overworked staff also brings awful things like mistakes and bad tempers. Our healthcare is sick. That's the facts. No bullshit.
THAT OUT OF THE WAY... You're a dumbass and you're fucking saying LIES. The situation is not because THE SYSTEM WANTS US TO DIE. It's because it's not managed correctly. CORRECT MANAGEMENT is the answer.
Socialized healthcare is A GOOD THING if done right. It's not NAZI.
4/1/2010 1:09:53 PM
#1141800
muters
That'd explain all these hordes of British and Canadian people taking to the streets, demanding that their only access to health care be via their employers. Oh, wait.
4/1/2010 1:10:37 PM
#1141802
WMDKitty
Liar.
4/1/2010 1:11:33 PM
#1141803
Funny, because in general, Canada and the UK laugh at our healthcare system.
4/1/2010 1:12:38 PM
#1141805
shockmeshockmeshockmewiththatdeviantbehavior
There’s a huge difference between Medicare and the socialized medicine Obama and Pelosi are trying to force upon us.
CITATIONS AND SOURCES PLEASE
Namely, Medicare is designed to help people like your mom. Socialized medicine is designed to KILL people like your mom by DENYING them care.
tell that to my mother whom before this health care bill passed... had NO FUCKING HELP for herself from insurances companies WHATSOEVER since she couldnt AFFORD IT. And now thanks to this bill SHE CAN GET HELP AND MEDICAL ATTENTION AND CAN AFFORD IT. You have it bass ackwards there Jami-without-the-E
Why are you people so dense?
I could ask the same thing about YOU!
People from countries like Canada and England come HERE for treatment because our current system is SUPERIOR to their’s.
BAH HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! *blinks* oh... you were serious?
In that case.... BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!! A HAAAH. HA!
Their doctors come here too because they’re actually ALLOWED TO PRACTICE MEDICINE instead of denying care to people so they’ll DIE SLOW AND PAINFUL DEATHS.
ONCE AGAIN... citations and sources please!
Get it through your head. This “health care plan” is REALLY a “DEATH CARE PLAN.”
NO. GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEAD. Youre fucking WRONG. READ THE BILL PLEASE.
You all should’ve voted for McCain.
DONT FUCKING TELL ME WHO TO VOTE FOR. ITS MY FUCKING VOTE!!! You overbearing illogical misinformed swine!
4/1/2010 1:14:40 PM
#1141806
SleepNeed
For the millionth time, Medicare IS socialized medicine.
4/1/2010 1:16:52 PM
#1141810
Woody
Words fail me, that is just too dumb. Where are all the hoards of British people travelling to the US for treatment? I haven't met any and I have lived here a long time, I think I would have noticed the exodus if there had been one.
The NHS, with all its limitations, is one of the most precious things we have here. Sure we moan about it, but try taking it away and we defend it to the hilt.
4/1/2010 1:20:57 PM
#1141811
There's also a huge difference between the truth and the right-wing lies you're telling and/or repeating.
Socialized medicine is when the government owns the hospitals and employs the healthcare providers.
There is nothing like that in the bill, nor has there ever been anything like it proposed, ever, by anyone.
We already HAVE socialized medicine in this country, however, and have had for decades--it's called the VA. You seem to think that's OK for the soldiers, don't you?
4/1/2010 1:21:05 PM
#1141813
D
The Finn, I have no idea :P
Either Jami is trying to make him/herself look better, or is pulling stuff out of her ass.
4/1/2010 1:25:01 PM
#1141815
emma
My grandmother who will be 90 this year was can see better because the NHS in her small town gave her an operation. My other grandmother 95 this year is alive and very well because two years ago her little hospital in Dorest saved her life. It was an emergency too. So this is blatantly untrue.
4/1/2010 1:32:15 PM
#1141818
Zoo
"You have to wait MONTHS and even YEARS for treatment under socialized medicine that you can get under our current system INSTANTLY."
As opposed to waiting months or years for treatment even though a condition should be treated ASAP because people can't afford to pay for it themselves? And which system are you referring to anyway? They're not all the same.
4/1/2010 1:51:03 PM
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