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#1131066
John_in_Oz
Your telling us "Try not to think of naked men" doesn't seem to be working.
Sort of like being constantly told "Try not to think of a green hippopotamous". It's followed by constant thoughts of big green water-beast. So maybe its Fundies that are responsible for all gay guys?
3/11/2010 6:03:10 AM
#1131088
normal 8687
You're straight because you've chosen to allow and succumb to perverted thoughts and feelings. You've? made a choice to be straight because it's easier justifying your actions then doing something about them. To be a heterosexual is to Reject your God and all and any logic that says otherwise. There is however many straights that would love to be helped back to a "normal" life. How dare you take that hope away from them by saying things like it's biological and there's nothing they can do.
P.S...... Fuck you.
3/11/2010 7:43:59 AM
#1131121
JSS
Those "perverted thoughts and feelings" always exist and are beyond a gay/bisexual person's control no matter if they're reduced or not, so it is in fact not a choice. What about the logic that shows having same-sex orientation is perfectly fine?
You do know that many of these "ex-gays" are just bisexuals, or homosexuals that repress their desires, don't you?
3/11/2010 10:54:49 AM
#1131125
WMDKitty
Are you gay? No? Then how the fuck would you know anything about it?
Oh... and there are no gays that "would love to be helped back to a normal life". There are, however, gays that have been so beaten down by religion that they've convinced themselves that they can "change" and go straight, which is just sad.
3/11/2010 11:50:57 AM
#1131140
GigaGuess
You're gay because you've chosen to allow and succumb to perverted thoughts and feelings.
My thoughts are no more perverted than the average heterosexual mans. The sole difference is the gender of the person they're directed at. Do not act like homosexual men are so depraved and vile, while heterosexual men are pure and gentle.
You've? made a choice to be gay because it's easier justifying your actions then doing something about them.
Think about what you're saying here a second. I could either live a life of misery, denying every urge as impure and evil, and end up either profoundly unhappy, or possibly even committing suicide, or I can come to terms with who I am, and live a fulfilled, happy life. I can change who I am, just to make the people around me happy for not having to deal with an evil homo, or I can live my life to my own contentment.
To be a homosexual is to Reject God and all and any logic that says otherwise.
To be homosexual is to defy a Bible verse or two. You commit the same level of depravity by eating shellfish or cutting your hair.
There is however many gays that would love to be helped back to a normal life.
No, there are many gays who have been pushed around to the point of self-loathing, and willing to either train themselves into bisexuality, or just shuffle back into the closet, creeping out every now and then to get plowed in a truckstop.
Huge difference.
Not to mention, the success rate of said "ex-gays" is abysmal, many either retunring to their former homosexual lifestyle, or just killing themselves.
How dare you take that hope away from them by saying things like it's biological and there's nothing they can do.
And how dare you condemn people for something that is not your business. Even if it is a choice (which still boggles the mind. Why would I choose to be gay? As an act of defiance to your God seems to be the most popular answer, which is just laughable and arrogant. Your God, and his sensibilites matter less to me than the amount of rain the Sahara gets until you guys try and foist him on me) it makes no difference to you guys until you choose to. You MAKE our existence anathemic to you. You MAKE us become your boogymen. You MAKE us the evil you fear us for.
3/11/2010 1:08:08 PM
#1131145
Murdin
Under most definitions of heterosexuality, straight people do not have any homo-erotic thought or feeling to allow and succumb to.
3/11/2010 1:35:11 PM
#1131146
Brenz
Is that also true of all your gay Republican heroes?
3/11/2010 1:39:45 PM
#1131149
Canadia
@Xotan
Sorry about the late response here but I in no way meant to downplay the even more significant difficulties experienced by older generations of homosexuals, sometimes it's just hard to not look at the world and see the shit that goes on even still and think "This is insane!" even with the knowledge that it is still easier today than it once was.
3/11/2010 1:51:39 PM
#1131158
NoriMori
@Jake:
"TGRwulf -
*Raises hand*
Satisfied? Or are you going to try to convince me that I don't really know what I want, and that I actually enjoy being a homosexual deep down?"
Calm down. No one's saying that. The people who are pressured to change don't enjoy being homosexual either, because of the shit they have to put up with; but that doesn't mean they know what they want, either. If we weren't living in a homophobic society, would you still want to change? I mean, seriously, why?? That would be like me not wanting to be a heterosexual anymore... That doesn't make sense. I could be wrong, but your wanting to change is probably a result of pressure from others, and that doesn't count.
And besides, truly WANTING to change doesn't mean you'll be able to, so if you keep wanting that I think you'll only be unhappy.
3/11/2010 2:48:53 PM
#1131159
NoriMori
@Dr. Shrinker:
"I rejected your god long ago, but I'm not gay. Did I do it wrong?"
Yeah, same... I don't know how I screwed that one up... Maybe it's because I never actually believed in God in the first place, seeing as I was raised in a non-religious family...
3/11/2010 2:50:33 PM
#1131186
shykid
"
You're gay because you've chosen to allow and succumb to perverted thoughts and feelings."
If you have such "perverted" thoughts and feelings to succumb to in the first place, you aren't heterosexual.
"
You've? made a choice to be gay because it's easier justifying your actions then doing something about them."
You couldn't actually know that unless you're speaking from experience, so either the lady doth protest too much or the lady doth speak out of her ass.
"
To be a homosexual is to Reject God and all and any logic that says otherwise."
Okay.
"
There is however many gays that would love to be helped back to a normal life."
Homophobes like you are also the only reason that they want to be what you all consider "normal". Homosexuality
is normal for them--otherwise they'd already be heterosexual in the first place, dimwit. Hell, the only thing that's
not normal here is pretending to have a sexual orientation you do not.
"
How dare you take that hope away from them by saying things like it's biological and there's nothing they can do."
It's biological, and there's nothing they can do.
3/11/2010 5:37:07 PM
#1131219
The Jamo
That's because it IS biological, you dumbass! Test in on yourself. Can you, in all honesty, switch your own sexual orientation to another one? Can you do it? No? Case fucking closed!
3/11/2010 11:38:31 PM
#1131303
"To be a homosexual is to Reject God and all and any logic that says otherwise"
So being gay is rejecting God, yet it's rejecting all logic and info that says you're not rejecting god?
Someone was in a rush to make a retarded rant i see
"There is however many gays that would love to be helped back to a normal life."
Yeah, and how is that working? Last I heard the "cured" gay people were still gay and the other "cured" gays killed themselves from the mind blowing insanity at those christian anti-gay summer camps
"How dare you take that hope away from them by saying things like it's biological and there's nothing they can do."
How dare any of us listen and read studies and information on it other than a few sentences from a 2000 year old, multiple translated/edited, unchanging word-o-god
3/12/2010 5:57:05 AM
#1131305
Sandwich Board
"You're gay because you've chosen to allow and succumb to perverted thoughts and feelings."
Confusion between cause and effect results in too much thinking on miracles and prophecy.
3/12/2010 6:13:54 AM
#1131321
GigaGuess
@NoriMori
No, you see, it's not that if you reject God you become gay. It's that there are, apparently, some of us that Extra Special Super Duper Deluxe hate God SOOOOOOO much, that we choose to forgo normal relationships, and a life where we can just be our normal selves to go around buggering each other just to give him a big old fuck you. Which totally makes so much more sense than "We're born that way, deal with it."
3/12/2010 7:15:19 AM
#1131327
Anon-e-moose
You
dare to say such bigoted things, whilst using the name of Vita, the awesome character from "Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Nanoha A's/StrikerS"?!:
You need some sense hammered into you, via her 'Intelligent Device' Graf Eisen*.
*- Which I
still think should've been called Mjolnir! >_<
3/12/2010 7:57:47 AM
#1131345
Xotan
"Sorry about the late response here but I in no way meant to downplay the even more significant difficulties experienced by older generations of homosexuals, sometimes it's just hard to not look at the world and see the shit that goes on even still and think "This is insane!" even with the knowledge that it is still easier today than it once was. "
@ Canadia
Threads can move on fairly quickly, so no sweat. I do appreciate that you have posted, and even more, that you have seen that gays haven't just poked their noses over the social horizon since they were discovered by Fundamentalists with Communications.
In truth, though, for all the difficulties gays experienced when I was young, I shudder to think what could happen if Fundamentalism should ever gain even a modicum of politcal power in any country. The gays of that place would be in a position somewhat analagous to that of the Jews under the Nazis (Godwin?), and I would fear for them. 'That place', in western terms, looks to be most likely the US. Europe seems on a different track altogether. It is not without faults, of course, but as I see it, gays of the Old World have little to fear. The intrustion of religion into the American political structures, however, is frightening as looked on by an older gay man. The executive appears to have weakened the constitution and Bill of Rights, mainly by virtue of having got away with certain abuses of the system. Could this mean that there is now a trickle filtering through the dam that separates State and Religion? If so, could there be a sudden weakening and collapse of the barrier?
This couldbe avoided by a strong presidency that respects the foundations on which the country is built. But sadly, I think president Obama is not strong enough in all the areas that matter. His focus seems too narrow. An outsider's opinion, of course. But there seems to be no sign of strengthening the structures that support the edifice of the state. Please correct me if I have misread the situation.
3/12/2010 10:11:48 AM
#1131630
Jake
@NoriMori
Look, you guys are taking just one aspect of what makes being gay so difficult and acting like if it were to disappear everything would be hunky dory. It's true that if religious fundamentalism were to disappear, everyone would be allowed to live much more openly, but that doesn't mean it would suddenly rock to be gay. Ask any gay guy or gal that's ever fallen in love with a straight person that they will never be able to have; or a gay couple that wants nothing more than to have natural children of their own. I doubt they'd say that their misery stems from pre-existing social mores.
3/12/2010 4:25:12 PM
#1131667
Dr. Shrinker
@ Jake
My wife and I are a heterosexual couple who cannot have biological children. And I once fell in love with a lesbian (she was cool about it though and we were able to stay friends). There's no way to make relationships, hetero or homosexual, free of frustration and pain, and most people accept this. Relationships are hard enough, why make them harder to satisfy a small groups obsessions with ancient myths?
3/12/2010 6:09:39 PM
#1131866
mikeytron
You're homophobic because you've chosen to allow and succumb to bigoted thoughts and feelings. You've made a choice to be homophobic because it's easier justifying your prejudices then doing something about them. To be a homophobe is to Reject Equality and all and any logic that says otherwise. There is however many homophobes that would love to be helped back to a normal life. How dare you take that hope away from them by saying things like it's better to hate and there's nothing they should do.
...there, fixed. >]
3/13/2010 12:38:07 PM
#1131919
theobeseturtle
I love it when they try to explain to me why I'm wrong, why I 'chose' to be this way, etc. Because, obviously, vita008 knows me better then I know myself.
3/13/2010 6:42:59 PM
#1131973
thejebusfire
There is however many gays that would love to be helped back to a normal life.
Just because you're straight, doesn't mean you're "normal".
3/13/2010 10:33:50 PM
#1131977
Hive
Fuck you. The only reason you can believe this shit at all is because you're straight. Although some straight people do actually understand. But that's because they have a brain.
I'm a lesbian and wouldn't have sex with a man if someone was holding a gun to my head. Forget it, not going to happen.
3/13/2010 10:42:21 PM
#1132060
Harmonious
Or maybe it's just the way I am and I never made a conscious descision to "become" a lesbian.
I also believe in a loving God who doesn't give a damn about His people's sexuality, as long as they live good lives.
3/14/2010 8:03:27 AM
#1133669
God
> To be a homosexual is to Reject God
Not if God's a guy, too.
3/17/2010 7:14:50 AM
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