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#1117916
Tyler
At least they're honest.
2/14/2010 10:09:53 PM
#1117920
Wehpudicabok
Good ol' Ray. He knows when to use logic and when to drop it like a hot potato--in the latter case, essentially whenever it doesn't suit him. Weaker minds might actually buy into it, sometimes.
2/14/2010 10:13:38 PM
#1117922
M
So stay stupid and don't bother normal people moronic fundie.
2/14/2010 10:18:51 PM
#1117924
Wookieduck
"I can't emphasize the importance of this."
...because it makes it that much easier to take your money and own your life and stuff that way.
2/14/2010 10:24:20 PM
#1117927
John_in_Oz
Yet if you used your mind better you'd know that verse doesn't say what you think it does.
2/14/2010 10:28:17 PM
#1117952
Tykittää
Well fuck, that just says it all, doesn't it?
2/14/2010 10:53:24 PM
#1117954
Sandwich Board
Yup: we can't have people thinking now, can we? Having people thinking is bad. It gives them ideas.
2/14/2010 10:55:49 PM
#1117959
GodotIsWaiting4U
That explains why you won't use yours, then?
2/14/2010 10:56:55 PM
#1117974
TGRwulf
"circumnavigate the human intellect"
That's EXACTLY what you're doing
2/14/2010 11:14:00 PM
#1117975
So brain thingy = teh debil. Got it.
2/14/2010 11:14:00 PM
#1117996
Mrs. Antichrist
All right, so let's focus on the conscience, then. What, exactly, is moral about creating humanity, and then punishing us for being true to the nature he instilled in us? If humanity is imperfect, what right does anyone have to expect perfection from us? Moreover, how can ANYTHING a human being can do in a finite life -- even the most horrific of crimes -- warrant an eternity of unimaginable torture?
If an infant doesn't behave by the standards we set for adults, would you condone torturing the child? If your dog doesn't hold the door open for you when you're carrying groceries in from the car, do you beat him until he's half dead? Of course not. Expecting a baby or an animal to behave by the rules we have for adult humans would be cruel, and those punishments would be extreme even for an adult who committed an infraction. If humanity is so imperfect, so stupid, next to god, why should it be judged by godly standards? Where is the morality in that?
The bible makes god sound like nothing more than a bored child kicking over an ant hill. Except, in this case, he's doing it because the ants didn't obey when he demanded they worship him, with no thought given to the fact that they had no way of understanding what he wanted from them.
Fact is, your god loses whether we focus on intellectual or moral arguments.
2/14/2010 11:23:18 PM
#1118026
aaa
Yet another idiot who thinks that ignorance is good for everyone. Go live in a tree, you overgrown orangutan.
2/14/2010 11:44:19 PM
#1118033
Antichrist
So baptism is meant to cause brain damage?
2/14/2010 11:52:11 PM
#1118048
the dog
So god created people with an intelligent mind but he really wanted morons ?
2/15/2010 12:38:42 AM
#1118052
I think this video sums up Kirk and Ray and what they really are.
*lyrics included in the sidebar*
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90_sYazHoas
2/15/2010 12:45:03 AM
#1118063
If the human mind is God's enemy, it's only because actually using it leads you to doubt he exists at all...
2/15/2010 1:08:01 AM
#1118074
The Jamo
Ray, you're a fucking idiot. I cannot overemphasize the importance of this.
2/15/2010 1:19:13 AM
#1118080
Serph-no-Okami
I'm rather fond of my intellect, thank you. I spent enough time cultivating it and I plan on continuing to do so for as long as possible, so I'm not about to throw it all away.
But if you want to be an idiot, go for it.
2/15/2010 1:28:14 AM
#1118082
Tolpuddle Martyr
Mind enemy of God?
KILL MIND!!! HURR DURR!!!
2/15/2010 1:32:03 AM
#1118096
Slater
@Mrs. Antichrist: Although you said nothing most atheists haven't thought about before, that rant was so eloquently put, I had to save it in a file to remember.
2/15/2010 2:24:29 AM
#1118099
Ken
It really bugs me when theists insult the power of the human mind like that. It's really insulting to be considered the plaything of a tyrannical deity.
2/15/2010 2:43:44 AM
#1118116
Dr. Gus
Translation: "let´s be idiots for jeebus"
2/15/2010 3:28:49 AM
#1118117
caustic gnostic
I'm willing to pay 100% for Ray's next lobotomy. Maybe he'll finally STFU.
2/15/2010 3:29:00 AM
#1118118
So god created each and every one of us with an intelligence and imagination far greater than that of any other animal, and expects us to IGNORE it?
Yet another christian who has discovered that thinking is not helpful to religion.
2/15/2010 3:29:40 AM
#1118120
Doesn't he realize that he's telling everyone that they have to be stupid?
2/15/2010 3:37:09 AM
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