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#1105420
Siberia
"Recruit offspring"? So adoption is recruitment now? And homosexuals are automatically sterile?
As if the world needs more children.
1/28/2010 9:31:55 AM
#1105426
Serph-no-Okami
[citation needed]
1/28/2010 9:40:33 AM
#1105455
GodotIsWaiting4U
Then perhaps you can show us the documents.
1/28/2010 9:55:23 AM
#1105469
Canadia
Infertile people can no longer marry.
Also, you backwards idiots create the problem of homosexuals committing suicide, well, some of them, if you tell a person he/she is garbage their entire life over and over eventually they might believe it and take that route.
Oh, and you are not witty, stop trying to be, thank you.
1/28/2010 10:03:29 AM
#1105470
Liar, liar...
1/28/2010 10:03:56 AM
#1105485
A fag
Except for the higher rate of documented "domestic" violence between gay couples,
Citation needed. Last I heard, domestic violence was mostly perpetrated by (STRAIGHT) men against women.
and the higher documented rate of suicide in gay relationships,
Why might gay people have a higher rate of suicide? Do you think it might have something to do with, oh I don't know... HOMOPHOBIA? Being treated like you're sub-human and denied equal rights is kind of a bummer, and tends to make us pretty depressed!
and the higher rate of STDs amongst gays,
Citation needed that it's even significantly higher, but if it is, it's again because of HOMOPHOBIA making it harder for gays to get treatment. There is no physiological difference between gays and straights that would make either group more likely to contract STDs.
and the fact that EVERY "gay" family can not be sustained unless the recruit offspring
"recruit offspring"? You mean ADOPTION? Plenty of straight people adopt. It's only because you hate gays that you are characterizing it as some evil "recruitment" process. (P.S: Despite the fact that you might try to raise your children to be exactly the same as you, and stifle their individual, gay people do not necessarily teach our children to be gay in the same way.)
Also, there's no such thing as "gay family." There are gay people with families/families with gay people in them, but there isn't some sacred lineage of gayness passed down through the generations. Your family probably even has some gay people in it! And they weren't "recruited"; they were just born that way.
where as the norm, hetro families will be sustained through the natural pro-creation and according to the great plan.
Except for straight people who don't procreate, or adopt. And gay people who do procreate. "Gay" does not mean "physically incapable of producing offspring."
Yeah, I'd say they are almost exactly the same, except for all that other stuff that makes them completely different.
Except that all that stuff is complete bullshit and not actually different at all, and the few differences that actually DO exist are not inherent differences, but created by society's lack of acceptance. You fail.
1/28/2010 10:22:09 AM
#1105503
Doctor Whom
the fact that EVERY "gay" family can not be sustained unless the recruit offspring
Apologize to Sharon Bottoms. Now.
1/28/2010 10:33:48 AM
#1105511
Thinking Allowed
where as the norm, hetro families will be sustained through the natural pro-creation and according to the great plan.
So what about those heterosexual families who cannot reproduce because of infertility? Either they get surrogates, donor reproductive cells, or they adopt. That's far from natural pro-creation.
1/28/2010 10:39:46 AM
#1105527
Antichrist
hmmm....
- beat up by my spouse? Check
- got STD from said spouse? Check
- no offspring? Check
Damn, I was in a gay marriage and didn't even know it. The church we belonged to didn't seem to pick up on it either!
1/28/2010 11:00:40 AM
#1105534
Headache
DSMV needs to be reworked to include being a right winger as a mental illness.
After years of reading the tripe form the US right, I'm convinced that the vast majority of US right wingers have mental illness problems and need help. I have met plenty of sane right wingers, just not in USA.
1/28/2010 11:08:08 AM
#1105541
hetro families will be sustained through the natural pro-creation and according to the great plan
O RLY? Then why did my hetero parents get divorced?
1/28/2010 11:19:13 AM
#1105550
Swede
Citation very much needed.
A family can be two people, you don't have to have kids to be a family.
We have no kids; natural pro-creation and the "great plan" seems to be faulty... And yes, we are a "hereto family".
1/28/2010 11:28:13 AM
#1105563
IanC
"and the higher documented rate of suicide"
I'll give this freeper this. He's right.
But not for the reasons he thinks. Its because of people like him, with attitudes like this. Parents chucking out their children just because they are gay. GEtting fired from work just because they are gay. GEtting beaten up... yes, just because they are gay.
Its on your head Mr. "Pig". Your's and plenty of others.
1/28/2010 11:43:42 AM
#1105566
aaa
Freepers seem to live in a universe that is very different where i live.
1/28/2010 11:45:51 AM
#1105576
Turtle
So the heterosexual couples that adopt are actually gay? Is one of them pretending to be a woman or something?
1/28/2010 11:58:49 AM
#1105579
Doubting Thomas
Uh, [Citation needed]? And if you're going to say that we should ban gay marriage due to domestic violence, then we should ban heterosexual marriage, too.
And even some heterosexual couples use surrogate mothers or IVF.
1/28/2010 12:02:20 PM
#1105603
Kisare
[citation fucking needed, dumbass!]
1/28/2010 12:20:21 PM
#1105605
Documented? Prove it. Show me those studies and I might be somewhat more inclined to believe you provided that I can't find biases and errors that'd affect the results.
1/28/2010 12:22:32 PM
#1105627
Old Viking
Turbo Pig is privy to statistics that very few others have seen.
The "great plan?" You mean make human existence an obstacle course, then punish most people eternally?
1/28/2010 12:51:13 PM
#1105628
campbunny
Why is domestic in quotation marks? What is a gay family? What does "hetro" mean? What is a hetro family? Why would gays suddently start recruiting when it hasn't been necessary for all these centuries, since we new generations of gays keep being born over and over again? Why would we go about it by spending two decades raising a child, who has a 90% + change of being straight anyway?
1/28/2010 12:54:48 PM
#1105634
Dr. Gus
Oh really? I would like to see all of your CREDIBLE sources of all those "well documented" claims you make.
Methinks that as the usual ultra-right-winger, you're lying for jeebus once again.
1/28/2010 1:01:14 PM
#1105639
Rob aka Mediancat
Sources or it didn't happen.
1/28/2010 1:05:30 PM
#1105641
Personally, I suspect that the high rates of suicide, drug abuse, domestic violence, etc in gay couples may have something to do with the way society as a whole treats them.
1/28/2010 1:07:31 PM
#1105661
higher documented rate of suicide in gay relationships
Hm. Interesting you specify suicide, not among gay people, but in gay relationships. Not sure how that really compares, but usually having a relationship creates a support structure that reduces risk of suicide. I think I want to look that up.
the higher rate of STDs amongst gays
I frequently hear it said that the group with the lowest STD rate is gay women.
and the fact that EVERY "gay" family can not be sustained unless the recruit offspring
What do you mean by "sustain a family"? I was under the impression we no longer had to breed a bunch of free help to keep the farms going in order to make ends meet. In modern life, offspring is more often a detriment to sustaining the family as it’s another mouth to feed, and there are fewer (legal) methods for children to bring income to support the family.
1/28/2010 1:28:45 PM
#1105673
Zeus Almighty
I know this is anecdotal and all, but in 20 years as a reporter and editor I recall hearing of one police report of same-sex domestic abuse. Actually it involved a female cop and her GF.
During that time the rest of the thousands involved male-female couples. Out of those the man was the abuser 95-plus percent of the time.
I'm sure a quick search on the FBI database would turn up some numbers, but I'm not in the mood to do Turd 'O Pig's work for him.
1/28/2010 1:38:55 PM
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