Male-only function? Yeah, that's discrimination. Telling women to be silent? Telling women to obey their husband? Dictating what we do with our bodies? That's oppression, and it IS declaring that women are "lesser" than men.
12/31/2009 12:20:14 AM
12/31/2009 12:30:02 AM
So you're saying instead of it placing women below men, it just has arbitrary rules?
12/31/2009 12:58:44 AM
You might wanna expand on that last thing. How is prohibiting women to speak up in congregations not supressing women?
Gender roles change over time. Most are only cultural, very few are physical. Men can't have babies, women can't ejaculate semen. That's about it.
Men might be generally stronger than women, but some women are stronger than some men.
Women might be generally more nurturing than men, but some men are more caring than some women.
Did anyone ask Rachel and Leah what they wanted, in regards to marriage?
What was so bad about wanting one last look on her home, which she would never see again?
What was the name of Lot's wife, btw?
Why does the Bible state how many sons are born, but seldom how many daughters?
Why are almost all strong women characters in the Bible more or less evil?
12/31/2009 2:02:52 AM
12/31/2009 2:03:15 AM
The doublethink is strong with this one.
12/31/2009 4:29:56 AM
The only differences between the fiancee and I are biologically, and even then the parts are mostly homologous. Gender roles are made by a culture, and some of things (women more emotional, men stronger) are generalizations and not always the case, like the picture posted by Zits could easily beat me up I'm sure.
A woman should be allowed to anything that a man can do and vise versa, if not then that is discrimination.
12/31/2009 6:09:12 AM
Where, Josh? You know what? I'm not even gonna call you Josh anymore. Ima call you MonkeyDude...
So, MonkeyDude. WHERE exactly in the scripture does it say anything about equality between man and woman? Everything I've read out of the bible seems pretty clear-cut. Women should only be touched for "baby-making purposes", your naughty bits are evil, any thoughts ABOUT your naughty bits is evil, and you should hold down everyone who doesn't think exactly like you. Does that sound about right, MonkeyDude?
12/31/2009 6:24:45 AM
Are you admitting or denying that your religion orders women to be silent?
12/31/2009 6:31:42 AM
"How dare you say Christianity orders women to be silent in church! Of course it does!"
12/31/2009 7:27:08 AM
Why am I reminded of "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others?"
*edit* Looks like I'm not the only one.
12/31/2009 10:53:40 AM
Hey, there was plenty of equality back in the old days: for example, women weren't allowed to vote, own property or divorce their husbands for beating them, while men weren't allowed to darn socks, change diapers or scrub the kitchen floor.
12/31/2009 12:31:16 PM
Equality = being permitted to do the same thing other people can do.
12/31/2009 1:55:00 PM
Since the Bible is nothing more than the collected "wisdom" of misogynistic Bronze Age Middle Eastern dwelling tribesmen, we can safely ignore it.
If women wish to be preachers, let 'em. For my part, I can ignore a female preacher just as easily as a male one.
12/31/2009 4:10:30 PM
In terms of the primordial division of roles, the women concentrated upon consolidation and organization, while the men ran around killing shit.
The role of priest in the community doesn't really fall in line with that stipulated division, but is usually grasped at by failed hunters or otherwise feeble males.
In that light, it seems to me that the exclusivity of the priesthood is not something a healthy male could take pride in.
Speaking as a male, I suggest that healthy women do not have a good reason to associate with preachers.
12/31/2009 4:54:38 PM
Separate but equal?
12/31/2009 5:39:40 PM
1/1/2010 3:03:39 PM
The idiocrity and hypocrisy of Joshua's statements aside I would like to say that
the division of labor does not necessarily equal dominance of one over the other.
1/1/2010 9:22:30 PM