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This is a bumper sticker sold by evolutionists, for theistic evolutionists. Notice the words: "I believe". I believe = having faith. For when something has been proven, belief (to believe) is not needed. So this bumper sticker actually admits to evolution requiring faith. And since evolutionists sell it, they admit to it as well. Evolutionists claim that religion and evolution is a oxymoron. But they just keep making that religious connection.

Side note: Time Magazine (sept. 2006 issue) recently did a special article on our origins (cosmic evolution). The name of that article was: "Let there be light". I wonder why a non-religious, government funded, organization. Would use a religious quote right from a religious book? Regardless of how much they deny it, it's looking more and more like a religion.

Issac, Y.E.C. Headquarters 66 Comments [12/25/2009 5:00:53 AM]
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Submitted By: M.M.
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#1078781


Could it be that they are MOCKING YOU and the way you present them, rather than confirm your views?

12/25/2009 5:07:12 AM

#1078803
Adrian

Completely Missing the Point award candidate...

12/25/2009 5:17:12 AM

#1078811
GodotIsWaiting4U

The reason why they called it "Let there be light"? Because it's such an iconic and well-known phrase. That's it.

12/25/2009 5:22:58 AM

#1078814
Zoo

Yeah. That's "I know evolution is true because of the evidence, but I want to believe God exists too and did what he said, so this is how I reconcile it", not "I have to say 'believe' when saying evolution is true because it's a matter of faith". Evolution very well could have been created by God since it doesn't explain the origin of life (something you would do well to remember). Evidence doesn't point that way, but that's not something you're concerned with anyway.

12/25/2009 5:24:18 AM

#1078816
343panic

Or it could mean they believe God did something. The faith is then required for God, not science.

12/25/2009 5:27:51 AM

#1078855
John_in_Oz

Oh, how pleasantly nostalgic, to be reminded of that site. And with a new quote!
It's a miniature FSTDT all by itself.

12/25/2009 6:07:24 AM

#1078868


Since when is Time Magazine a government funded organization? This tools ability to construct a proper sentence is lacking.

12/25/2009 6:22:40 AM

#1078884
aaa

Oh, that site. Issac gets my fundie of the year award, just for the effort.

12/25/2009 6:42:53 AM

#1078902
Doctor Whom

Now look at that bumper sticker again while standing on a ladder, so that the point won't go quite so far over your head.

12/25/2009 7:11:23 AM

#1078906
Canadiest

The Bible is public domain, you don't own it, didn't write it and no-one holds a copyright on it. Anybody can quote the Bible for any purpose they please. keny certainly took outrageous liberties with some passages meanings

And if you people weren't so prone to cherry picking thing out of context you wouldn't keep using cheap tricks like pulling two words out of a full statement to alter the full statements meaning. The Belief implied in that sentence is that God created evolution, not that evolution is the belief

12/25/2009 7:27:29 AM

#1078912
Vegetable Rights Activist

You....

You don't get the point of sarcasm, do you?

12/25/2009 7:46:07 AM

#1078926
Jon

Maybe so, but it would be a lie for them to say "I 'think' evolution is one of God's creations" because we all know that anyone with a jesusfish bumper sticker is incapable of thought.

12/25/2009 8:16:48 AM

#1078930
SubTachyon

"I believe = having faith"
Bzzzz, WRONG! You are failling your math class sir.

12/25/2009 8:20:31 AM

#1078942
rubber chicken

I believe that Issac is a moron and have thus created a new religion. I call shotgun on the position of Pope but there are plenty of Cardinal spots available.

12/25/2009 8:29:32 AM

#1078944
campbunny

Or alternatively, they have faith in the second line of the bumper sticker. But hey, evolution is still in crisis and collapsing and not credible anymore and all that.

12/25/2009 8:33:37 AM

#1078968
Na na na na

Theistic evolution is a religion, but evolution itself is not.

or, to put it in language you can understand:
durrrrrrrrrrrrr...

12/25/2009 9:00:26 AM

#1078970


You don't believe, you habeeb it.

You habeeb it and don't let it go.

12/25/2009 9:01:28 AM

#1078977


Apparently proven things do require belief, since many people still don't believe in them.

A theistic evolutionist still has to have faith that God did it. They just don't also need to have faith that it defied the known rules of biology.

12/25/2009 9:04:05 AM

#1079007
Leliel

Note how Issac never actually REFUTES theistic evolution in any way.

Coward.

12/25/2009 9:43:45 AM

#1079016
Berny

The bumper sticker tells me that on the surface there is nothing about the theory of evolution that conflicts with the idea of God. Evolution does not try to explain the origins of life, just its diversity. Only idiots insisting on a literal interpretation of Genesis have a problem with evolution.
As to the headline for the Time magazine article, it was to grab people's attention. It obviously got yours. As to the religious nature of the quote, the Bible is the most oft quoted book in English literature. It's done as a literary device, and is not an indication the person writing has any belief in your religion.
Issac is a moron. A simple visit to his ridiculous website will confirm it to anyone with a brain.

12/25/2009 9:54:56 AM

#1079021
MM

The statement is "I believe evolution is one of God's creation. The statement is not "I believe evolution."

Therefore, your first paragraph is nonsensical, and demonstrates a lack of reading comprehension on your part.

12/25/2009 10:08:19 AM

#1079036
Headache



12/25/2009 10:38:57 AM

#1079052
Doubting Thomas

But have you ever noticed how Christians always claim that you need to believe in God? Why is it that they always claim you have to have faith to believe in evolution like it's a bad thing, but having faith in God is a good thing?

12/25/2009 11:16:55 AM

#1079060
Papabear

There are several meanings to the word "believe," Issac. In this case it obviously means "think."

P.S. Learn to use the period properly.

12/25/2009 11:26:56 AM

#1079073
Mister Spak

Regardless of how much you deny it, we have the fossils. We win.


12/25/2009 11:48:36 AM
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