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Homosexuals can't even be married, as it's a union established by God between man and woman. Nor can homosexuals engage in sexual intercourse of any kind (requires male and female genitalia). I wish that at the very least they'd realize it's incorrect to call it marriage.

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old comment by Papabear

"Homosexuals can't even be married,"

Uh, yes they can.

"as it's a union established by God between man and woman."

Marriage is a civil contract. Remember, whether you marry in a church or not, you still need a license from the government.

"Nor can homosexuals engage in sexual intercourse of any kind (requires male and female genitalia)."

Oh come on, now you're just being stupidly ridiculous. Penis in the mouth is sexual intercourse not matter whether that mouth belongs to a male or a female.

"I wish that at the very least they'd realize it's incorrect to call it marriage."

I wish that at the very least you'd realize that the marriages and sexual behavior of other people in really none of your business.

old comment by The Skeptic Wept

That's a rather large pail of fail there, WarGamer.

Try this little experiment. Go to a minister, preacher, or other religious leader and asked to be married.

Next, go to a Justice of the Peace and ask to be married.

In both cases there is a document they will ask to see before a wedding ceremony can be performed and that is a license from the state. Until the state sanctions the proceedings you aren't going to be married and you don't need "God's permission"in any case.

Seems to me the only thing that matters to you is that god sanctify intercourse and, in your eyes, marriage is defined. What a sorry life you must lead but then, seeing as how you're on RR, that's a given.

old comment by Thinking Allowed

From Dictionary.com
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/marriage

I particularly like definition number four.

mar·riage - [mar-ij] noun

1. the social institution under which a man and woman establish their decision to live as husband and wife by legal commitments, religious ceremonies, etc.

2. the state, condition, or relationship of being married; wedlock: a happy marriage.

3. the legal or religious ceremony that formalizes the decision of a man and woman to live as husband and wife, including the accompanying social festivities: to officiate at a marriage.

4. a relationship in which two people have pledged themselves to each other in the manner of a husband and wife, without legal sanction: trial marriage; homosexual marriage.

5. any close or intimate association or union: the marriage of words and music in a hit song.

6. a formal agreement between two companies or enterprises to combine operations, resources, etc., for mutual benefit; merger.

7. a blending or matching of different elements or components: The new lipstick is a beautiful marriage of fragrance and texture.

8. Cards. a meld of the king and queen of a suit, as in pinochle. Compare royal marriage.

9. a piece of antique furniture assembled from components of two or more authentic pieces.

10. Obsolete. the formal declaration or contract by which act a man and a woman join in wedlock.

Origin:
12501300; ME mariage < OF, equiv. to mari(er) to marry 1 + -age -age

old comment by Shane

it's a union established by God between man and woman.

Which God? Just because your homophobic tyrant asshole doesn't like gays doesn't mean everyone's Gods are like that.

Consider the deities of Pagans ancient and modern. Many of those deities condone [or at least participate in] gay relationships or demonstrate transgender/transsexual traits. For example, Loki, Asunshunamir, Astarte, Pan, Horus, and many others.

In addition, ancient mythology has many examples of gender benders and virgin goddesses, possibly implying asexuality. But fundies just bitch about gays; they don't seem to even recognize the existance of asexual people. [Maybe that's a good thing.]

old comment by SleepNeed

Homosexuals can't even be married,

In (as of this writing) 5 out of the 50 states they can.

as it's a union established by God between man and woman

Wrong. It's more of a contract between a couple and the state. How is it do you think that people got married in the Soviet Union?

Nor can homosexuals engage in sexual intercourse of any kind (requires male and female genitalia).

Wrong. As long as there is one set of genitals, you can have sex. There is oral, anal, mutual masturbation, etc. There is plenty of sexual contact that two people can have without it being penile-vagnal intercourse. Why do you care what two consenting people do in the bedroom?

I wish that at the very least they'd realize it's incorrect to call it marriage.

It's a bloody civil contract. You need a license to become married. When the fiancee and I in July get married we will need to have the license ready for the person conducting the ceremony to sign in order for us to become married. The ceremony is just an extra, an expensive one at that.

old comment by Giveitaday

Homosexuals can't even be married

Why not? What prevents then from marrying other than unjust and discrimintory laws??

as it's a union established by God between man and woman.

The concept of marriage predate the concept of your "god" by at least several hundred years.

Nor can homosexuals engage in sexual intercourse of any kind (requires male and female genitalia).

You've either never had sex of any sort, or you have no imagination whatsoever.

I wish that at the very least they'd realize it's incorrect to call it marriage

Why? because it doesn't fit the narrow definitions you create specifically to exclude homosexuals? Marriage as it exists in the US is a civil institution, not a religious one. The very fact that you never see christians out protesting Muslim, Hindu, or even Atheist marriages is proff positive that all your protest are hollow, insincere, and targeted at one specific segment of the population with the sole intent of disenfranchising them.

old comment by WarGamer

What does God's Word say?

Lev. 18:22, "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination."1

Lev. 20:13, "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them"

1 Cor. 6:9-10, "Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 10nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God."

Rom. 1:26-28, "For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. 28And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper."

The GOOD NEWS!!!
1 Corinthians 6:11 - "And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God."

old comment by WarGamer

What does God's Word say?

Lev. 18:22, "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination."1

Lev. 20:13, "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them"

old comment by Anon-e-moose

"Homosexuals can't even be married, as it's a union established by God between man and woman."

Don't exactly keep up on current events, do ya? Over here in the UK, it's not just vicars, priests etc who can perform marriages, but Council-appointed officials at municipal registry offices which perform secular marriages. All the ceremony, and legal recognition, no religion involved.

They also do Civil Partnership ceremonies too, for gay & lesbian couples. With the same legal recognition, and entitlements/responsibilities as heterosexual marriages.

"Nor can homosexuals engage in sexual intercourse of any kind (requires male and female genitalia)."

If your 'God' disapproves of gay sex, then why did he design male genitalia, and especially the male rectal area - including placing the prostate gland there - in the way it is?

"I wish that at the very least they'd realize it's incorrect to call it marriage."

The British legal & Parliamentary system says otherwise.

old comment by shockmeshockmeshockmewiththatdeviantbehavior

"Homosexuals can't even be married"

Right! Becuase of douchebag nazi christian dickheads like you causing prop 8 and constantly telling us who we can and cannot marry. (for the record Im not gay... im BISEXUAL. And that doesnt make me perverted or greedy... it just means... i keep my options open when it comes to the possibilities of LOVE.)

"as it's a union established by God between man and woman."

WRONG. Id love to see a marriage in which God is standing before the bride n groom, IN FLESH AND BLOOD PHYSICALLY, pronouncing them man and wife. When you can show me him doing this, and PROVE HE IS GOD, ill believe this and back down on my beliefs.

"Nor can homosexuals engage in sexual intercourse of any kind (requires male and female genitalia)."

So... for me to go down on a woman and munch on her carpet... it requires me having a penis on my mouth? Or... on my hands? or.... lol I could go on... you CLEARLY have no idea what sexual intercourse is... maybe you should go back to school and take sex ed.
PS: DILDOS. STRAP ONS. IT STILL PROMOTES PENETRATION AND CAUSES ORGASMS. :P

"I wish that at the very least they'd realize it's incorrect to call it marriage."

How so? Marriage by definition is in fact wedding the one you love THROUGH THE STATE NOT RELIGION, and making vows to love one another and be together with only that person so long as they both shall live. HOW IS THIS NOT MARRIAGE? A PENIS AND VAGINA DONT MARRY! TWO CONSENTING ADULTS DO!!!

old comment by shockmeshockmeshockmewiththatdeviantbehavior

@ WarGamer

What does God's Word say?

Lev. 18:22, "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination."1

Lev. 20:13, "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them"

Hmmmm... funny thing is... I didnt see anything in this entire post that quotes from the bible about WOMEN... BEING WITH OTHER WOMEN... being a sin and wrong according to God.... and im sure if you all read the entire Leviticus chapters on sexual acts according to God... you wont find that in there either... wanna know why? Apparently because the NUMBER ONE FANTASY of all straight males (including "HOLY CHRISTIANS") is the thought and act of women being with women and also witnessing a woman fuck or kiss or touch another woman... because its a HUGE turn on and straight men (most normal ones) condone it 100% for the sake of their own lusts and fulfillment. Thus... you have all provided us LESBIANS and BISEXUAL FEMALES ... a loophole before the eyes of God to committ all the sexual acts and encounters we want with other women like us. THANK YOU SOOOO MUCH :D

old comment by WarGamer

Peter 5:7
Cast your cares upon the Lord, for he cares about you.

Hebrews 13:5,6
Be content with what you have, for God has said, "Never will I leave you; never will I forsake you." So say with confidence, "The Lord is my helper; I will not be afraid."

Ecclesiastes 7:20
"There is not a righteous man on earth who does what is right and never sins."

ALL have sinned and are unworthy of being in the presence of the Father. Christ's love is free. He asks you to let Him into your heart and liberate you from sin to live for Him.

old comment by Anon-e-moose

@WarGamer

"ALL have sinned"

'Sin' is defined in any dictionary as committing crimes against divine law. Or contravening the moral standards of a deity(ies). But since we Atheists don't acknowledge the existence of a 'God', therefore we can't be sinners.

We Atheists certainly have higher moral standards than your 'God'. Just read the Old Testament for proof. Therefore we Atheists are superior to God.

Jim Bakker. Jimmy Swaggart. Ted Faggard. Kent Hovind. Tony Alamo. David J. Stewart. All right-wing Christian preachers. All have been exposed as embezzler, adulterer, condemner of homosexuals (but secretly a homosexual himself, and therefore a hypocrite), Tax-evader, serial statutory rapist, and paedophile respectively. Oh, I'm afraid that all you right-wing fundies (especially on Ruptured Retards) only have the right to refer to we Atheists and non-fundie Christians, Agnostics, Wiccans etc on FSTDT as purer than Jesus, certainly superior to God, and utterly sinless in perpetuity. In other words...:

Put your own collective houses in order before you condemn the activities of anyone else. And your 'house' is made of glass. Those words of condemnation are stones. You get my meaning.

Matthew 7:1: 'Judge not, lest ye be judged.'

John 8:7: 'Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.'

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If I don't find you first, WarGamer, I'll see you in Hell.

old comment by Anon-e-moose

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"Are slogans and Buy Bull quotes all you can come up with, WarGarbl?"

A classic example of what happens when a cultist - certainly a fundie - can't compete against facts and logic. Their last resort is parroting their own dogma, lest reality finds it's way through a gap in their 'faith' armour.

But then, if they were secure in their beliefs, they wouldn't need to behave the way they do. Just ask the non-fundie Christians here in FSTDT, WarGamer & everyone else on Ruptured Retards.

Buzzardnuts & Mr(Wo)Mann, I'm looking at you.

Ergo, their gutlessness & cowardice when it comes to debating we at FSTDT. Or not, as the case may be. Because they know that their 'faith' wouldn't last five seconds against infinitely superior intellects. QED.

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