*why teenagers in religious areas have more babies*
Lets see. These kids are exposed to the same over sexualized pop culture as any other kids in any other region. They have more babies which indicates ONLY that they do not abort their children at the same rate as teens in other regions.
The inference the writer wants to make is that more sexualization leads to fewer teen pregnancies. No. More sexualization leads only to more abortions at younger ages not to teens forgoing sex entirely.
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Let me help you out Kathy30, here is how things are supposed to progress:
Evidence => Conclusions
NOT:
Conclusions => Assertions
Thanks for playing, turn your brain on and try again.
Wrong. The figures refer to teen pregnancies, NOT the number of births.
And no one claims that more sexualization leads to fewer pregnancies. Research shows that sex education reduces pregnancy rates, as opposed to Bible-Belt-style denial and abstinence-only programs, which have been proven over and over to be ineffective.
What the stats means, Kathy30, is that kids getting a proper sex education, instead of bible bullshit, might still be having sex as frequently as those in bible states but they are taking precautions such as birth control to prevent unwanted pregnancies.
Besides, aren't the abortion rates still higher in bible states anyway?
Well where I grew up it was because if you went to the Dr. for the pill he'd call your parents, if you bought condoms at the drug store, the cashier would call your parents. It was a no win situation, unless you had a friend who didn't give a rats ass about his/her reputation (mostly the natives).
So all these good Baptist kids boinking one another is OK as long as it results in pregnancy?
And, incidentally, the speaker (writer) was implying. You were inferring.
OK, now explain why teenagers in religious areas have more pregnancies .
The inference the writer wants to make is that more sexualization leads to fewer teen pregnancies
No, more birth control leads to fewer teen pregnancies (and fewer abortions, too). That's why European kids have fewer teen pregnancies.
Kathy, we keep track of the numbers of pregnancies, births, and abortions in this country. You might want to try another argument.
So the pop culture influences them, but only to have sex. Other popculatural influences don't effect them, but we know the sex ones do, because there's no way they would have sex ever without being brainwashed, since it's totally unnatural and not inherently appealing at all.
I wonder, if they break the religious commandments when they have sex, I don't think that they refrain from abortion. I correct, Alabama, the so-called anti-abortion state, has the higher rate of those. Go figure.
So why do I keep hearing about how abortion protesters often sneak their daughters into the back door of the very clinics they've been protesting, then continue to picket while that "little problem" is getting "taken care of"?
As someone who grew up in a religious environment, I can tell you from experience that the more restrictive environment, the more extreme lengths the kids will go to to rebel and exert some independence and some semblance control over their own lives. Look at the Amish communities, they have a surprisingly high rate of unmarried teen pregnancy, drug abuse, and teenage runaways.
I'm still waiting for the first Duggar kid to get knocked up, or get a DUI. Living with that mom's high pitched squeaky voice alone would be enough to drive me to drink, let alone having to live in that little isolationist dictatorship their dad has created.
"The inference the writer wants to make is that more sexualization leads to fewer teen pregnancies"
Christians aren't supposed to lie. The writer isn't sayin anything about being more sexuaized. It is directy saying that religious extremism hampers sexual *education*.
Education=/=promotion. You are educated on wars, that doesn't mean you want wars to happen. Education just gives students knowledge to make more responsible choices.
I think it's obvious that it shows how sex education consisting only of "Don't have sex" just doesn't work.
And yeah, religious kids NEVER have abortions. I've even known Catholic teenagers whose parents took them to get an abortion.
Other way around, more abortions are in the south. Not only that, but the statistic is about teenage pregnancies, not teenage birthgiving. A Pregnancy still counts even if the baby is aborted. Meaning that, no matter how you look at it, religious-area teenagers are having more unprotected sex.
I think it's obvious that it shows how sex education consisting only of "Don't have sex" just doesn't work.
Abstinence-only "education" says more than that, though. It tells kids:
-Condoms don't work, or even increase the chance of pregnancy and/or STIs.
-"Sex" = penile-vaginal insertive intercourse, implying that other activities don't transmit STIs (leading to things like the Saddlebacking phenomenon).
-Anyone who has sex before legally-recognized monotheist-religion-endorsed marriage deserves to have their life ruined (shun the queers!).
Aren't there studies showing that there are more abortions in religious areas as well? Teenagers in less religious areas perhaps have easier access to contraceptives, and more education about how they work?
Embryos are aborted, btw, not children. When you are pregnant, you are said to be expecting a child; i.e. it's not here yet, but will arrive in the near future.
Teenagers are pretty sexualized by their own hormones, I'd say. Teaching them where to get contraceptives and how to use them, will cause fewer babies to be born or aborted.
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