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#1040775
GodotIsWaiting4U
The 1600s called. They want their sailing superstitions back.
10/21/2009 3:01:52 PM
#1040776
I disagree with her, but it's not really fundie as such, unless the context of the discussion makes it so.
10/21/2009 3:02:55 PM
#1040778
Elia
Fine, get out of the military lady! You being there isn't in the best interest of your country either. You think pregnancy isn't a problem for the army?
10/21/2009 3:06:22 PM
#1040779
Anon
Bad air?
Most of the women I know make the air around them smell rather nice actually, certainly better than the smell of a hundred men cooped up in a sinking tin can!
10/21/2009 3:07:07 PM
#1040785
Percy Q. Shunn
How could a woman not want to be on a submarine?
It's long, hard, and full of seamen!
10/21/2009 3:12:36 PM
#1040786
Amandarandom
Uhm... there are no separate bathroom for female personal in the field. At least, not on airforce bases.
As for why there are no women on subs... Blame the men. It's been determined that men perform a lot worse when there are women on board. They don't trust women, and of course there's always the problem with testosterone-for-brains men and being stuck at sea for half a year.
So, all things considering, a mixed crew doesn't work as well, so it shouldn't be done, but don't blame the REMFs.
10/21/2009 3:13:40 PM
#1040792
This is not a fundie comment.
10/21/2009 3:24:01 PM
#1040799
I would be willing to put money on the air in a modern submarine being better quality than the air in the average modern city.
I say that with no real knowledge at all, though, so feel free to call me an idiot who's lost his bet.
10/21/2009 3:30:24 PM
#1040802
Wasn't there a study somewhere that found that women are actually better suited to serve on submarines than men, due to a statistical probability of functioning better in close-knit units, as well as a slightly better body design for dealing with lack of oxygen and decompression sickness?
10/21/2009 3:31:46 PM
#1040818
Dr. Novakaine
The...the pregnancy problem? Do submariners have an inability to use condoms? Is sex on submarines even that prevalent? I think someone got the wrong idea somewhere.
10/21/2009 3:50:21 PM
#1040823
WMDKitty
Yay, self-loathing women for JEEZUS.
10/21/2009 3:58:47 PM
#1040826
Phil
Re: the pregnacy problem, I've heard that it's inadvisable for women to serve on submarines because the pressure can give them fertility issues, or something like that
10/21/2009 4:02:23 PM
#1040834
Painful
Ummm, Unisex much? I've been in a few of them, no big deal unless you're in there with a bunch of immature idiots.
As for bad air, then I guess women shouldn't go on airplanes (air is much less filtered) or even out in space - but a fundie would probably agree with both of those things.
PS That whole fertility thing goes both ways: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6890951
10/21/2009 4:09:50 PM
#1040844
ozznova
Not fundie, why is this here?
10/21/2009 4:49:11 PM
#1040845
jsonitsac
Something tells me that the fundies said this crap whenever women made an advance in the military. Crap like women shouldn't be on the front line (never mind the fact that the women in the US Military have a very long tradition), or that women shouldn't be on surface ships, or fly a fighter jet, or attend West Point, Navy, Air Force, VMI, the Citadel, VTCC, TAMUCC, etc. And guess what every nay sayer had been dead wrong.
10/21/2009 4:49:46 PM
#1040847
Blackvoice
So... "I'm a woman, and I don't want to be in a submarine, ergo no woman would want to." Okay.
Since beds (or anyplace, really) in submarines are so conductive to sex. They're obviously made for it. And a bathroom's a bathroom.
Though I must confess submarines are rather frightening and I wouldn't work on one even if they paid me extra.
10/21/2009 4:51:18 PM
#1040848
The FBI is controlling your thoughts via your toaster
I work with a submariner. He thinks it is crazy to put women on subs, too.
Appealing to authority is a bad way to make a rebuttal; it implies you don't have a valid point.
The amount of money required just to add a bathroom is over the top.
So... a bathroom door with a lock wouldn't solve that problem? So all such doors up and vanished into a black hole somewhere?
The bad air and pregnancy problem is also quite real.
Show me the research proving this then.
Me being a female in the military, I just don't see why women would want to force their way onto a sub when it is not in the best interest of the country they have sworn to protect and defend.
If they are able to do the job why not? However, with all that whining I do doubt your ability to serve in such a role.
And another thing, you have just insulted all military women especially those serving in Iraq and Afghanistan.
10/21/2009 4:55:38 PM
#1040860
Kat
I'm thinking this is a plant by a misogynist guising as a female servicemember.
I think this because if "she" is so against women being near or going to combat, then why is "she" in the military?
10/21/2009 5:33:50 PM
#1040863
Orion
"The amount of money required just to add a bathroom is over the top."
Unless you poop in the urinals on subs I think women can use the same bathrooms.
10/21/2009 5:43:26 PM
#1040865
Pretty Puppy
Uhmmm, you aware that not only are there countires that have woemn serving on submarines but at least one of them has a female submarine commander. Would it be possible to turn to them for an idea for a pilot program? Not to mention the newst line of subs have sbstantially more space.
10/21/2009 5:49:57 PM
#1040869
clockworkgirl21
I work with a submariner. He thinks it is crazy to put women on subs, too. The amount of money required just to add a bathroom is over the top.
*sigh* Utter bullshit.
The bad air and pregnancy problem is also quite real.
Bad air? What the fuck? And what pregnancy problems? Do you really think they'd allow pregnant women in subs?
Me being a female in the military, I just don't see why women would want to force their way onto a sub when it is not in the best interest of the country they have sworn to protect and defend.
Give one good reason why letting women on subs would hurt the country.
10/21/2009 5:54:44 PM
#1040871
Efrain
PERCY WINS! :D
/thread
10/21/2009 6:00:25 PM
#1040889
Osiris
Co-ed bathrooms.
Problems solved.
10/21/2009 6:40:00 PM
#1040910
Vince
They could suck it up and use the same fucking washroom and just deal with it.
what is this? Victorian England? I was under the impression that mature professionals could get over something like this.
10/21/2009 7:20:42 PM
#1040917
Natalie
This shit again? You're an idiot. As a woman in the military, shouldn't you know that a pregnant woman is allowed to serve on a ship up to the 20th week of pregnancy, and that subs pull into port every month or so? So where is the problem? If she gets pregnant, she just gets off at the next port. Big deal. There's nothing that can really hurt a fetus on a sub. Very little radiation, and the air isn't as bad as you make it out to be. I literally sat on top of a reactor when I was pregnant with my kid. He's appears normal, no super powers have developed as of yet.
I work with submariners too. A lot of them have no problem with women on subs. My husband is one of them.
In conclusion, stfu.
10/21/2009 7:32:44 PM
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