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#1000023
Ouabache
False dillema. I can think of at least a dozen other options off of the top of my head.
8/3/2009 12:35:20 PM
#1000043
Zoo
Sure there is; you're just not creative enough to think of one (of many possibilities, might I add).
But you're not going to disprove whatever you think evolution is. You have to be able to think harder to do that.
8/3/2009 12:46:38 PM
#1000046
Mister Spak
But Pastafarianism proves both of them wrong. You lose.
8/3/2009 12:48:11 PM
#1000047
Clown
Depends how you define "creation", I suppose. Although, chances of disproving evolution are pretty slim to none.
"Your universe is your eyes and ears." Ruler of the Universe, THHGTTG.
8/3/2009 12:48:17 PM
#1000051
Eden
There would still be numerous different models....
Almost every religion has its own model about the origin of life
aside from this there are still lots of extrareligious models one can think of, about how life as we know it came to earth....
one possible model for example would involve life having originated on other planets and then being transferred to earth in one way or the other.... ;)
It definitely wouldn´t be more ridiculous than imagining that life was created by a divine entity in the way described within the bible ;)
8/3/2009 12:49:13 PM
#1000054
Swedish Pagan
Yeah, whatever. You have to disprove evolution first, remember. More intelligent people than you have tried to do that through the centuries. Some idea of evolution existed even before Darwin started with his book, you know.
So, as evolution has been proven again and again, creation has ben disproven again and again? You can't have it just one way, dumbass.
8/3/2009 12:49:56 PM
#1000060
Blue J
Er, no. I'm afraid that's not the way it works.
8/3/2009 12:53:09 PM
#1000068
But you haven't proved creation.
8/3/2009 12:59:56 PM
#1000069
xplicit_UK
3. The earth's magnetic field is responsible for speciation.
4. Man bred ALL species from a single water lily.
5. Everything's just being dreamt by Johnson Toribiong, President of Palau.
There you go... 3 more options.
8/3/2009 1:00:03 PM
#1000076
Thinkining Allowed
But it does not change the idea: If I disproved the evolution, I proved creation. Because there is no third option.
There is much more than a third option. There are several other creation myths out there.
8/3/2009 1:03:27 PM
#1000096
John
If I disproved the evolution, I proved creation
Which
version?
8/3/2009 1:12:57 PM
#1000103
Horsefeathers
"But it does not change the idea: If I disproved the evolution, I proved creation."
That's not how science works. If you disprove a theory you'd damned well better have something to replace it (and creationism sure as hell wont do so) or you've wasted a lot of time, effort and trees writing your critique as we'll just keep on using the theory since there'd be nothing to replace it.
"Because there is no third option."
Sure there is. You're all figments of my imagination, hence neither evolution nor creationism is true.
See? That wasn't so hard. I could probably come up with a dozen more options if I thought about it.
8/3/2009 1:17:17 PM
#1000105
peabody
No, if you disproved evolution then there would be no evidenced based explanation of biodiversity. In this case, "I don't know" would be preferable to an explanation that has no evidence. I could make up explanations that have no evidence all day, and there would be no way to tell which, if any, were correct.
8/3/2009 1:18:26 PM
#1000107
Woody
"If I disproved the evolution, I proved creation"
No. If you disproved evolution, then you would have disproved evolution. To prove creation, you must come up with a compelling explanation that is able to fit with all the evidence and things we have discovered to date. That's two Herculean tasks just there.
Also, you would have to decide which creation theory you wanted to prove and even before that, assuming you want to prove your fundie version, you need to agree amongst yourselves exactly how to 'interpret' the wholly babble and come up with a single creation story, since there are so many interpretations of the babble stories.
So, good luck with that...
8/3/2009 1:18:32 PM
#1000122
There's INFINITE possible options. It must be religion destroying your brain I suppose.
8/3/2009 1:35:13 PM
#1000123
DevilsChaplain
You're forgetting the option that man traveled back in time and ejaculated into the primordial ooze.
8/3/2009 1:37:03 PM
#1000124
spaceamoeba
Which creation story is that? Because there are more stories from other religions too.
8/3/2009 1:38:00 PM
#1000128
Caustic
And here I thought ID was you guys' plan B.
8/3/2009 1:39:41 PM
#1000132
Doctor Whom
First, disprove evolution. Second, explain why there are no other options. Don't worry; I'll wait.
Also, once you prove Genesis chapter 1, you'll have disproved Genesis chapter 2, and vice versa.
8/3/2009 1:42:12 PM
#1000141
atrasicarius
Ahem.
8/3/2009 1:47:21 PM
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8/3/2009 1:48:21 PM
#1000147
solomongrundy
Wikipedia has around sixty major creation myths, that's without all the minor variations within the chief religions or taking into account all the views of smaller societies around the world.
But as evolution is a fact it's all irrelevant anyway.
8/3/2009 1:53:17 PM
#1000159
Papabear
That idea doesn't NEED to be changed. It needs to be thrown out.
A. it's a false dichotomy and B. you haven't even begun to come close to starting to get a foothold toward proving the ToE incorrect.
8/3/2009 2:02:20 PM
#1000176
Dr. Novakaine
No, if you disprove evolution (and you won't, because even if it is disprovable, you're not smart enough to even know how it works, much less figure out how to show that it doesn't), you then have to take extra steps to prove creation. See, putting a new theory into science requires not only disproving the current standard, but showing how your new theory explains what the old theory both did and did not explain.
And there are other possibilities. I can think of several. All of them are far less likely than evolution and about as likely as creation.
8/3/2009 2:16:09 PM
#1000181
EvoPagan
No. Evolution doesn't tell us how life came into being, it only tells us how it developed. You don't even know the definition of these words you are using.
8/3/2009 2:21:59 PM
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