Thundersqueaks

Once upon a time...

5/21/2009 1:21:45 AM

Zionism is racism.
End of story.

5/21/2009 2:46:31 AM

Rephrasing, I am college dropout, but this way I look cooler.

5/21/2009 2:52:22 AM

Princess Rot

"But in the rareified air of the academy, only one kind of prejudice doesn't have an odor to it."

It's funny that you mention that, because I'm sure your entire post reeks of snooty, holier-than-thou, I'm-so-much-better-than-them-because-I'm-a-Chrissstiyunn. Physician, heal thyself.

5/21/2009 3:27:36 AM

arcturus

"In college, I was trained in Marxism, Maoism, and feminism. I was taught a class on sexism, racism, classism and heterosexism in American life by an avowed Wiccan who wore a pentagram around her neck in class. I was taught political economy by a professor who carried a copy of Das Kapital everywhere he went and called it his "Bible." (Of course, none of my instructors would ever have carried a REAL Bible.)"

What the bloody hell were you studying? Advanced political correctness studies? I didn't even know you could do a course in diversity salad.

5/21/2009 4:51:17 AM

Mister Spak

"I had to laugh when I read the email from someone who couldn't imagine what a "leftist" education would be."

I had to laugh when I read your description of your supposed education. Then I laughed again when I saw your name.

5/21/2009 5:07:42 AM

Grigori Yefimovich

I'd just love a pet feminist secularist.

5/21/2009 5:14:07 AM

Orion

Points about this that are demonstrable lies, misleading statements or exaggerations:

"I was the victim of just such a scheme."

You have not suffered, but rather benefited from this education as you apparently have a Ph.D

"For example, in my junior high years, I was taught that the Palestinians were right and Zionism was racism."

Exaggeration, it is implied in that history books mentions the fact that Zionism gave the Jewish people something that was simply taken from Palestine without any real consultation for their input. This does imply Zionism is racists, but it was not what you were taught, it is how you at the time interpreted the facts presented.

"I was taught that abortion is a right, and "anti-choice" extremists were not only disagreeable, but both stupid and cruel."

Lie. You picked that up most likely from students who spoke up in class or elsewhere, possibly in those debates you mention later.

"I was taught that animals are more important than people."

Exaggeration or possible lie. If it's biology then you spend way more time on humans than any other organism, if it was geography or something then that was probably how you interpreted the facts of how people rush to save endangered species and how we must preserve animal habitats over human greed interests. Either way this was only an implication of the facts and not what you were taught, nor is it true. As a member of our species schools expect you to realise instinctively (as one does) that one's own species comes first, but environmental protection is good for all species in the long term.

"In my math class, we once figured the cost of raising a child as opposed to the cost of having an abortion."

Outright lie, no two ways about that.

"There was no question which side of the argument would garner the better grade."

Misleading statement, the correct answer is: "the better argued side", the implied answer is "the leftiest side".

"In college, I was trained in Marxism, Maoism, and feminism."

Exaggeration, you were taught what they were as they are concepts relevant to history and the modern political spectrum. This does not constitute being trained to practice Maoism or Marxism (as one would in say government policy) or being able to lead a feminist group.

"I was taught a class on sexism, racism, classism and heterosexism in American life by an avowed Wiccan who wore a pentagram around her neck in class."

Misleading statement, you say this as if it were a bad thing and imply that she injected her faith into the lectures, which is unlikely. When in reality any class on (sociology, politics?)would necessitate understanding these concepts and their history and the professor would not inject faith into the proceedings.

"I was taught political economy by a professor who carried a copy of Das Kapital everywhere he went and called it his "Bible.""

Misleading statement, you imply that he was deadly serious as if he worshiped Marxism, in reality this was likely a joke or personal quirk to represent how much he knows and every student should know about Das Kapital when studying Political economics. Oh and as a side note, I bet he knows "On The Wealth of Nations" back to front as well.

"after many years as a teacher's pet feminist secularist"

Lie, Professors tend not to have "pets" and I very much doubt you were unique as a secular feminist in a leftist college (feminism is not exactly radical). I think this "pet" status with the "teacher" was a figment of your imagination and the professor was just nice to everybody.

"though eventually they did pass my dissertation which was promptly academically published, despite treating pro-life activists as a legitimate political faction instead of a disease in the body politic"

Misleading statement, you imply that arguing pro-life harmed your final mark. Professors only care about the quality of the argument and skill with which it was written, also previously you implied you were persecuted as a Christian and not respected by professors, but this pass indicates a lack of discrimination of any kind on the part of anyone besides students who mocked you for being delusional.

"On the way, however, there was no end to the insults to which I was subjected."

Exaggeration, the example that follows is supposedly the worst and most obvious insult you suffered and it wasn't even directed at you! It follows then that this unending barrage of insults can't have been at all severer than this light insult, not even directed at you.

"I asked my major professor for a letter of reference to apply to teach at a Christian college. He agreed, but told me I shouldn't need it. "A place like that," he said, "isn't looking for excellence.""

Misleading example: The professor is implying that YOU are too good for that school. But you're too blinded by your persecution complex to see people aren't insulting or discriminating against you, but rather they are expressing disappointment at a waste of talent. Also, how were you discriminated against here? The professor AGREED to give you the bloody recommendation while commenting that you didn't even need it!

"Really? Suppose I had received the same reply when asking for a reference for a historically black university? Would I have had grounds to sue? You betcha--and this professor would have been the first to say so. But in the rareified air of the academy, only one kind of prejudice doesn't have an odor to it."

Misleading statement, lie then an exaggeration: You mislead with an unrelated example that illustrates how you missed the professor backhandedly complimenting you, then you lie; you don't have legal grounds, you got the Ph.D and the Letter of recommendation and haven't actually received any discriminatory behavior, despite the faculties disappointment in your choices. Finally you exaggerate by claiming prejudice and elitism in a professor who just passed you, gave you a letter of recommendation and advised that you could do better than teaching at a religious college!

That a good enough summary of the lies, misleading and exaggeration going on here?

5/21/2009 6:48:54 AM

draco_nite

By PhD. she means Permanent Head Damage.

5/21/2009 8:29:50 AM

Pule Thamex

Blast! You've done it again PhD Mom. Since reading your quote, every time I think of Christianity all I can think of is that's its adherents are despicable liars. Talk about spreading the gospel! You do it in spades.

There are two disturbing parts to your name PhD Mom. First, PhD. Second, and the more disturbing part, Mom.

5/21/2009 10:50:15 AM

lonelocust

@Orion Thanks for taking the time there.

I continue to believe that making a lot of misleading, heavily interpreted, or heavily implicatory statements is not the same as "Lying for Jesus". I don't think calling yourself a "victim" for example when we here at FSTDT would call you a "beneficiary" is properly called a lie. It is a value judgment. I also don't think saying you were "taught Marxism" when you were likely taught what Marxism is but sound like you're trying to imply that you were taught to be a Marxist is properly called a lie.

So I guess I'll continue to get on the train of "Yeah, you got a leftist education, and it was a good education" and stay off of the train of "OMG LOL NO ONE TEACHES THAT STUFFS AT SCHOOLS!" (Apologies to my fellow posters; I exaggerate for effect and not in an attempt to belittle you.)

5/21/2009 12:59:33 PM

Darwin's Lil' Girl

Religious "universities" really aren't looking for excellence. They're looking for anyone willing to swallow their bullshit unquestioningly.

5/21/2009 2:27:04 PM

Sasha

I'm back at university myself, and the one subject guaranteed to bring both faculty and students to the boiling point is PARKING!

5/21/2009 6:32:40 PM

If middle and high schools were actually left-leaning and unafraid to discuss political matters, I would have been popular you dumb bitch. My professors now are almost that cool, though.

5/21/2009 9:41:22 PM

FMG

Marxism, Maoism and Feminism haven nothing to do with each other.

Also if you are not an avowed Marxist and hate everything it stands for then go to work on saturdays and let the rest of us commie slackers get on with enjoying our weekends.

5/22/2009 9:01:02 AM

Aethernaut

Wow. I don't think I've ever seen someone pack so many lies into just five paragraphs. It's like a "just so" story from an alternate universe.

5/23/2009 12:18:01 PM

Semi-Christian

If this is a factual report of your life, then this world is very messed up...but something seems a little off with your story.

But I can understand how living in a society of one religious (or anti-religious) choice can make you go against it. A friend of mine went to a Christian school and began a Muslim as a result. So I can understand why you may have such a strong belief from such a life. However you must decided whether your belief is based upon your own understanding of the lord...or to get mental revenge on those who tried to make you an atheist (as you perceive it).

5/24/2009 1:16:29 AM

Matt

Doesn't seem fundie to me. I think she has a point to the Christian vs. Black College thing. She also seems to have had a lot of weirdo professors, she must have been in liberal arts or social "sciences".

5/24/2009 7:25:28 AM

Michael Weiner

This is what happens when you realise the truth is your enemy.

5/24/2009 12:22:13 PM

torako

am i wrong, or is getting a ph.d *getting published*? i was pretty sure that if you get a ph.d, your dissertation and stuff was published. my mom actually got her ph.d finished almost exactly a year ago so i know a bit about it although admittedly i didn't pay much attention to it.

also, 'you betcha'... are we sure this isn't sarah palin lying for jeebus?

5/24/2009 11:06:53 PM

Hirsute Nailbomb

i tried to read through this whole thing, but my eyes were ground down to useless nubs. thanks phdmom.

5/28/2009 11:02:41 AM

vaguelyhumanoid

Did you go to school in a hippie commune?

Also, I think the reason a professor of POLITICAL ECONOMY would read "Das Kapital" is because it's, y'know, RELEVANT TO THE CLASS.

P.S. Where is this school? I want to go there...
P.P.S. You misspelled "vox populi".

6/13/2010 3:50:18 PM

Blarghonius

You're not being persecuted; you're being made fun of because you're dumb. Maybe they should let everyone pass math, including those who can't add; then, we could finally get rid of the evil, liberal pro-math bias that has its hold on every educational institution.

9/8/2011 4:56:43 PM

Professor M

In college, I was trained in Marxism, Maoism, and feminism.

I learned about Marxism and Maoism in college -- mostly from professors who were most definitely not Maoist and who had major departures from Marxist doctrine. As for feminism? That's rather inseparable from ethics, unless you're willing (as too many are) to exempt patriarchy from ethical considerations.

(Of course, there are always some people who can't tell the difference between learning about a culturally and historically important intellectual movement from being required to accept said movement. Those people are mostly "pure" science majors or Republicans. I still consider this one of my major advantages as a science/humanities dual major heading for a grad program in the sciences; I can tell the difference between learning about what people have thought and being expected to think the same. My physics classmates have some really disgustingly uninformed -- but adamant -- interpretations of work in the humanities.)

9/8/2011 9:36:34 PM

M

And apperently she learned nothing.

10/21/2011 5:00:31 AM