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Every true Christian has heard the accusation that “Christians just defend the Bible with the Bible” as if that were an evil or a sign of automatic lack of rigorous proof. In reality, it is those who are slaves to non-creating speech that answer the Bible with the more of non-creating speech and continually appeal to the non-creating nature of THEIR speech as evidence of the supposed lack of creation within ALL speech as if their speech was the only speech in total reality. They actually do what they falsely accuse Christians to doing: speak a word which is powerless to create and answer God through us with more of non-creating speech as if it were its own proof of truth simply for being spoken.

Unknown, Christian Clarity Review 74 Comments [4/30/2009 9:04:00 PM]
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#949267
Clown

So, creationists can create and answer God but normal people can't? Wow. That makes it... clear.

5/1/2009 12:49:57 AM

#949269
Clown

So, creationists can create and answer God but normal people can't? Wow. That makes it... clear.

5/1/2009 12:50:54 AM

#949276
Paler_Face

Circular reasoning (aka, using the bible to defend the bible) is always defeated by reasoned logic based on evidence.
Now go shove that word-salad up an unwholesome orifice of your physical being.

5/1/2009 1:42:25 AM

#949277
Doctor Fishcake

And that's...clarity?

I LOL'd

5/1/2009 1:42:38 AM

#949280
aaa

Well, that was pointless.

5/1/2009 1:45:13 AM

#949281
Orion

"or a sign of automatic lack of rigorous proof."

The thing about sourcing proof is that you would at least expect 2 separated sources to correlate each other. The Bible is a fictional book and proves nothing.

5/1/2009 1:46:00 AM

#949286
LDM

Ummmm, what??

5/1/2009 2:25:44 AM

#949292
heather

huh? how ironic that this is taken from the christian CLARITY review.

5/1/2009 3:09:46 AM

#949293
EvoPagan


5/1/2009 3:10:07 AM

#949300
Philbert McAdamia

I know you are, but what am I? Pltltltltltltlt


Every true Christian

Huh? Both of you?


Duck Speak; to quack like a duck and say nothing.

5/1/2009 3:17:36 AM

#949309
Paschal Wagner

as if that were an evil

See, here's the basic problem with trying to argue science from a religious POV. Mistaking the dimension "correct <-> incorrect" for "good <-> evil". Syntax fucking error.

5/1/2009 3:56:32 AM

#949312
Illuminatalie

Ob la es paniol?

5/1/2009 4:29:21 AM

#949316
Zoo

For a "Clarity Review" this is anything but clear. How many times do you need to use "speech" in one statement?

And if your Bible was true, you should be able to defend it with real world evidence.

5/1/2009 4:58:35 AM

#949342


What does any of this gibberish mean? Are you trying to defend circular reasoning? You can't use the Bible as evidence for God's existence because the Bible is the original source claiming its existence. You need external sources of evidence.

What is it with these people and their immunity to logic?

5/1/2009 6:03:50 AM

#949345
JohnTheAtheist

What the fuck is non-creating speech?

The funniest part of this post is the website, Christian CLARITY Review. Ha.

5/1/2009 6:10:45 AM

#949368
John_in_Oz

Christian Clarity in a nutshell.

5/1/2009 6:56:38 AM

#949377
Telamon

Wait, what the hell did you just say? I thought you were a creationist, not a politician!

5/1/2009 7:27:19 AM

#949380
JSS

Non-creating, non-creating, speech, speech, speech, WHAT?

5/1/2009 7:31:39 AM

#949382
varrior

BLIBBITY BLIBBITY BLIBBITY

5/1/2009 7:33:18 AM

#949395
Grigadil

Buh?

5/1/2009 7:44:08 AM

#949415
Sasha

Apparently, and I could be wrong, Unknown thinks that the words of the Holey Babble come directly from their gawd who created everything by speaking it into existence. Therefore the Holey Babble words are worth more than ordinary words that only describe our reality instead of creating it.

Wow, I speak fundie! Time to go to the ER!

5/1/2009 8:44:14 AM

#949420
draco_nite

Sounds like this nutjob is basically saying, "FUCK YOUR SHIT, I'M RIGHT, YOU'RE WRONG. WHY? BECAUSE I SAID SO."

At least, that's the TL;DR version.

5/1/2009 9:02:31 AM

#949421
ArcWolf

Yeah, usually even when others say "word salad" I can make out what someone is the post to say. But this goes even beyond my ability to decipher coded text.

5/1/2009 9:03:41 AM

#949611
tracer

You ... are crackers.

5/1/2009 1:05:45 PM

#949615
tracer

Clown wrote:

"So, creationists can create and answer God but normal people can't? Wow. That makes it... clear."


By "creating speech", he doesn't mean things spoken by Creationists. He means speech that has the power to literally speak things into existence; e.g., when God said "Let there be light," and there was light, God was using "creating speech" to make the light. (The notion comes from the whole "In the beginning there was the Word" drivel from the Gospel according to John.)

He seems to think that the Bible was written via this "creating speech," and that therefore everything else is powerless in comparison. It's "the Bible is true because the Bible says so", but with more pretty-sounding terminology.

5/1/2009 1:13:09 PM
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