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The fact that the oh-so-conservative Southern Baptist Convention split from the more liberal North over the issue of slavery goes right over your head, doesn't it?
That's some revisionist history you've got there - Southerners were liberals, New England was full of conservatives.
@NonProphet, there really are people who believe that history works that way. I've talked to some of them. There is a massive movement out there to rewrite history to make it look like conservative, God-fearing Republicans stopped slavery.
4/25/2009 3:28:52 AM
"steele has come out and said what the vast majority of Americans believe and know to be the truth."
"depression will continue to get worse and worse and worse until Americans rediscover the morality of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ"
If the vast majority of American already believe in Jesus, how come the depression is still getting worse?
4/25/2009 3:30:56 AM
"God bless the party of God."
Party of God? You mean as in "Hezbollah"?
4/25/2009 4:25:19 AM
I have no idea if this idiot is a Poe or not. He started commenting about three months ago and only comments when the subject concerns gay marriage (though he hasn't been around for a while (which is (actually) kinda nice)). His view of history basically revolves around the idea that homosexuality causes depressions, revolutions and the fall of countries.
Again, no idea if he's a Poe. He leaves different email addresses (only one of which has been real and it was not him) and randomizes his internet ID, so who knows. If it is Poe, I worry for the commedians sanity. If not, I worry more.
4/25/2009 4:44:50 AM
liberal slave owners
4/25/2009 5:12:44 AM
(((Billy))) The Atheist
#945881 is me, I forgot these comments don't have identity lines.
(((Billy))) The Atheist
4/25/2009 6:14:17 AM
So you didn´t read the bible where there are tons of passages concerning slavery, all of them passages that either regulate slavery (or give slaves advices how they should behave) or in which god orders citizens of conquered cities to be taken as slaves. You will find not one passage there that condemns slavery.
Even the newtestament only tells slaves to obey their owners, but has not one passage that talks about slavery being injust and that every human should be his own master.
No matter whether you call the slave owners from the southern states liberal or conservative, the fact remains that they used the bible to justify the practice of slavery.
There is not a single passage in the bible where it is claimed that Adam and Eve were married btw. ;)
4/25/2009 6:28:27 AM
[God ordained marriage as between a man and a woman. adam and eve, not adam and steve.]
Nice to see you come up with an original slogan. What about Madam and Eve?
[slavery was forced into the constitution by liberal slave owners in the southern states. the true conservatives of new england tried to block it, but were overwhelmed by the minority much as is happening now.]
Citation of a valid source please.
[discrimination was not written into our constitution. it was forced in by those who want to create victims because victims become liberals.]
No. Last I checked it was the religious reich who proposed discrimination and segregation for blacks in the 50's and 60's. The religious reich of Republicans.
[mark my words. this depression will continue to get worse and worse and worse until Americans rediscover the morality of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ as expressed the the infallible Holy Bible. we must as a nation stand up to the perverts and their holocaust agenda to destroy Christians. we must stop the liberal socialists.]
Yes your infallible bible that endorses slavery. But wait, I thought you were against that!
4/25/2009 6:29:17 AM
"this depression will continue to get worse and worse and worse until Americans rediscover the morality of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ as expressed the the infallible Holy Bible. we must as a nation stand up to the perverts and their holocaust agenda to destroy Christians. we must stop the liberal socialists."
Mark my words. This already happened with a liberal president 70 years ago. You fundies still havn't gotten over it. And now we will do it again.
4/25/2009 6:46:28 AM
Historical Revisionism for Jesus! And it's a jim-dandy!
4/25/2009 6:47:16 AM
For the non historians:
This amazing fundie has actually got some history right! But then gets the rest wrong for the typical fundie fail.
Slavery was indeed written into the constitution, therefore it was a founding principle, just like the much-hated-by-you freedom of religion. The slave owners and Real Americans could not force the other side to back down so they had to compromise and wrote the 3/5 rule.
In those doays the Republicans were the millionaire big business party, while the Dems were the pro slavery party. After the civil war the south decided the the Republican party was the party of Satan and Lincoln was the head satanist. About a hundred years later the Democratic party started passing civil rights laws, which so enraged the fundies that they moved en masse to the republican party, making it the current Republic party of millionaires, fundies and racists, while the Democratic party is the party of Americans.
4/25/2009 7:00:33 AM
Orion"we must stop the liberal socialists."
You always say that but the tune changes when they're the ones handing you money and medical care.
4/25/2009 7:09:01 AM
Gays destroy America. Check
History rewrite. Check
Lying for Jesus. Check
Prediction of certain doom. Check
Somehow he missed rounding up the Atheists and Muslims
4/25/2009 7:19:34 AM
(((Billy))) The Atheist
Canadiest: Don't give him any ideas. He's already annoying enough!
4/25/2009 7:39:44 AM
4/25/2009 7:48:25 AM
slavery was forced into the constitution by liberal slave owners in the southern states. the true conservatives of new england tried to block it,
Wrong side of history, every time. You'd think they'd learn, but no--easier just to pretend up is down and black is white, afterwards.
4/25/2009 8:02:33 AM
Actually, Lincoln was pretty damn liberal for his time, it was only later that the Republicans did a Face/Heel Turn.
4/25/2009 8:26:36 AM
"slavery was forced into the constitution by liberal slave owners in the southern states."
You've unwittingly discovered the problem of continually using one word (liberal) to define everything you hate. It makes you sound absurd.
4/25/2009 9:02:54 AM
Uh, the slave owners were *far* from liberal... douche.
4/25/2009 9:40:13 AM
History seems to be your strong point.
4/25/2009 9:46:38 AM
The terms "liberal" and "conservative" can be a bit fluid, and neither party at any given time has a true hold on either ideology.
Think about this: President Andrew Jackson, in his embracing of free market capitalism with little to no government intervention, was liberal in his day. Now that same platform would be deemed conservative.
It's not just in this country. The Russian Revolution was a victory of social liberals like Lenin. When they came into power and needed to maintain it, the same class of people (starting really with Stalin) became conservatives, so ultimately, some 75 years later, the likes of Yeltsin (not quite a capitalist but definitely not a communist) was the liberal one.
4/25/2009 10:47:45 AM
The conservative mindset is noted for championing the underdog and fighting the status quo.
4/25/2009 11:49:41 AM
Liberal slave owners? ...the hell?
4/25/2009 2:54:05 PM
Epic history fail. Seriously, crack a fucking book once in a while.
Liberal slave owners? Conservative New England?
You....oh fuck it, you won't go read it anyways. Just, seriously, read a fucking history book.
4/25/2009 5:54:45 PM
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