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Er, Hitler wasn't an atheist. He was a theist, although his exact beliefs aren't known 100%, they were known to be EXTREMELY fucked up
. But definitely not atheist. And the communism you're speaking of (Soviet Union, etc) was basically practicing government worship, not allowing criticism and such, which is practically like being a religion.
Fuck, these amoral assholes sicken me.
4/16/2009 12:26:30 AM
4/16/2009 12:26:31 AM
Don't you fucking DARE appropriate Dostoyevsky for that, you twat.
4/16/2009 12:30:14 AM
Well, at least they are not using Easter to inspire Jewish pogroms any more. That's progress! Glacial progress, but progress nonetheless.
4/16/2009 12:36:46 AM
Funny I always thought the Catholic Church and The Nazis were chums.
Anyway the pedo Church can go fcuk itself.
4/16/2009 12:42:36 AM
Blah blah blah Godwin blah blah persecution...
4/16/2009 12:50:47 AM
Excuse me? a Catholic German bishop is patching Nazism on atheists? And claiming his Church was persecuted by them? A bishop of the same Catholic church that signed a concordat with those very same Nazis? (And with Mussolini).
That's a) stupid, b) ignorant and c) chutzpah.
4/16/2009 1:01:20 AM
4/16/2009 1:04:38 AM
Yes... it's not like the head of his Church was a member of the Hitler Youth or anything like that...
4/16/2009 2:09:34 AM
Christians and the Church was not persecuted in Nazi Germany. That was the Jews and their Synagogs, the Gypsies, the mentally handicapped.
Communist Russia did not have a state religion, yes. But they worshipped Stalin, Lenin and Marx (or some of their ideas, at least) as infallable, godlike. Here the Church was sort of persecuted, it's wealth was confiscated and distributed to those who needed it (or to the people in charge who wanted it).
Atheism is not a movement, it's separate individuals comming to the conclusion that they can't find any sign that there is a god.
4/16/2009 2:28:50 AM
Everyone knows that Jews are the ancient enemies of atheists. We hate them for killing our messiah.
4/16/2009 2:28:56 AM
What a fucking liar. Don't tell me a German Bishop doesn't know the history of Hitler being accept and promoted by the Catholic Church!
4/16/2009 2:44:05 AM
The Catholic Church is getting dumber by the minute. Must be senility and lack of sex.
4/16/2009 3:22:50 AM
Agh. I hate it when people rip off Dostoyevsky for that.. The point of The Brothers Karamazov wasn't to showcase that point.
Ivan operated with a great deal of morality despite not believing in a god. You'd have to be as imbecilic as Smerdyakov to think the same way as this Bishop. Ie. Admitting you'd kill somebody the moment you didn't believe in god.
4/16/2009 3:51:52 AM
Oh FFS... :(
4/16/2009 3:55:45 AM
God Is Real Unless Declared Integer
If you know German: http://www.ruhrbarone.de/atheismus-und-massenmord/
Greetings from old Europe.
4/16/2009 3:57:51 AM
Hitler was not only a Catholic, but a creationist.
"Der Fuchs ist immer ein Fuchs, die Gans eine Gans, der Tiger ein Tiger usw.,[...]"
("The fox remains always a fox, the goose a goose, the tiger a tiger, etc., [...]")) - Mein Kampf, Band I Kapitel 11 'Volk und Rasse'
"Denn Gottes Wille gab den Menschen einst ihre Gestalt, ihr Wesen und ihre Fähigkeiten. Wer sein Werk zerstört, sagt damit der Schöpfung des Herrn, dem göttlichen Wollen, den Kampf an."
("It was by the Will of God that men were made of a certain bodily shape, were given their natures and their faculties. The one who destroys His work, declares a fight on the creation of the Lord, on the Will of God.") - Mein Kampf, Band II Kapitel 10 'Der Föderalismus als Maske'
"Woher nehmen wir das Recht zu glauben, der Mensch sei nicht von Uranfängen das gewesen, was er heute ist?"
("What gives us the right to believe, that man was not since primeval times that what he is nowadays?")
"Aber nirgends zeigt sich innherhalb einer Gattung eine Entwicklung von der Weite des Sprungs, den der Mensch gemacht haben müsste, sollte er sich aus einem affenartigen Zustand zu dem, was er ist, fortgebildet haben."
("But nowhere inside a species can we see a development of the size of the leap that man must have made, if he supposedly has advanced from an ape-like condition to what he is now")
"Das, was der Mensch von dem Tier voraushat, der vielleicht wunderbarste Beweis für die Überlegenheit des Menschen ist, daß er begriffen hat, daß es eine Schöpferkraft geben muß."
("That what man has as an advantage towards animals, which is perhaps the most wonderful evidence for the superiority of man, is, that he has realized that there must be the force of a creator")
- Quotes from Adolf Hitler, Führerhauptquartier, 25th - 27th February 1942 -
4/16/2009 4:17:38 AM
The first sentence of this quote does give me some cause for hope, when it reports that Walter Mixa has "come under fire." By whom? Ideally, other catholics, but I'd like to know more about this...
4/16/2009 4:19:41 AM
"Christians and the Church were always the subject of "special persecution""
What the fuck? Go learn some fucking history.
4/16/2009 4:20:14 AM
God Is Real Unless Declared Integer
That was a really interesting page. My German is somewhat out of practice but I managed it. Those texts to those pictures... If I wasn't at work, I'd laugh out loud.
4/16/2009 4:31:00 AM
Do they not teach history in Germany?
4/16/2009 4:31:07 AM
Gott Mit Uns! Who had that as a slogan?
||||||||||......||....I wonder who...
4/16/2009 4:41:58 AM
@God Is Real Unless Declared Integer: Danke.
4/16/2009 4:45:54 AM
"Christians and the Church were always the subject of "special persecution" under these systems, he said. "
Delusions of persecutions can be cured. Get help.
Also the Nazis hated atheism, just like you.
The German Freethinkers League
('Deutsche Freidenkerbund') was an
organisation founded in 1881 by the
philosopher, physiologist and physician
Ludwig Büchner. Its aim was to provide
a public meeting-ground and forum for
materialist and atheist thinkers in Germany.
The first of such organisations to be
founded in that country, the German
Freethinkers League had by 1930 a
membership numbering around 500,000.
The League was closed down, however,
in the Spring of 1933 when Hitler
outlawed all atheistic and freethinking
groups in Germany. 'Freethinkers Hall',
the national headquarters of the League,
was then converted to a bureau advising
to the public in church matters.
Among its Chairmen was Max Sievers,
who was beheaded at the guillotine by the Nazis in 1944.
4/16/2009 5:01:13 AM
"Most controversially, he linked the Nazi and Communist crimes to atheism. "In the last century, the godless regimes of Nazism and Communism, with their penal camps, their secret police and their mass murder, proved in a terrible way the inhumanity of atheism in practice." Christians and the Church were always the subject of "special persecution" under these systems, he said."
You dirty, bald-faced liar! The Holocaust would have been *impossible* without Christains and the fine tradition of Christian persecution of Jews that has a long and shameful history in Europe.
Edit: Hmm, "Christains"? Freudian slip, perhaps?! ;o)
4/16/2009 5:14:02 AM
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