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LOL. Did ignorance and dogma bring us the atomic bomb? No. Biological weapons? No. Nerve Gas? Nope. All science.

Funny how you are all about science but you’re too afraid to defend your theory (fact? Don’t make me laugh. Evolution is unprovable), nope, rather than defend it, anything else must be suppressed. Welcome to Orwell’s world.

“There are only two possibilities as to how life arose; one is spontaneous generation arising to evolution, the other is a supernatural creative act of God, there is no third possibility. Spontaneous generation that life arose from non-living matter was scientifically disproved 120 years ago by Louis Pasteur and others. That leaves us with only one possible conclusion, that life arose as a creative act of God. I will not accept that philosophically because I do not want to believe in God, therefore I choose to believe in that which I know is scientifically impossible, spontaneous generation arising to evolution.” George Wald, Nobel Prize Winner in Biology.


murf, Discover 72 Comments [3/29/2009 5:02:03 PM]
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Katsuro

"Did ignorance and dogma bring us the atomic bomb? No. Biological weapons? No. Nerve Gas? Nope. All science."

You know that computer that you're using to smack-talk science...

3/29/2009 8:10:03 AM

Shadow Boxer

"Did ignorance and dogma bring us the atomic bomb? No. Biological weapons? No. Nerve Gas? Nope. All science."
Ignorance & dogma just encouraged us to use the underlying science to create these things & use them.
Science is a tool. It can be used or misused by people. It is not inherently good or evil.

3/29/2009 5:10:46 PM

WMDKitty

Ignorance and dogma also didn't bring us all the GOOD things that science has done. (I'm thinking in terms of medical advances, here.)

3/29/2009 5:12:44 PM

Zimmer

No, there are hundreds of thousands of ways life could have come into being.

1. Scientific theory of abiogenesis (NOT, mind you, the same as spontaneous generation)

2. Life came into being via a supernatural creative act of Osiris.

3. Life came into being via a supernatural creative act of Odin.

4. Life came into being via Tiamat's body being torn to pieces by Marduk.

5. Life came into being via Yahweh whispering some magic mumbo jumbo, etc.

3/29/2009 5:12:53 PM



There are only two possibilities as to how life arose; one is spontaneous generation arising to evolution, the other is a supernatural creative act of God, there is no third possibility.

Evolution doesn't deal with how life arose. OK, let's suppose life arose by a supernatural creative act of God. So what? Does that mean evolution didn't occur? Does that mean humans and chimps don't share a common ancestor? Does that mean God still exists, or that the creation was done by one God as opposed to many? Does that mean that there was only one supernatural creative act of God? The argument is useless. That's why trained theologians, as opposed to dumb-ass rednecks, have ignored the argument for the last two centuries.

3/29/2009 5:13:24 PM

Nowonmai

Nobody here is afraid to defend the theory of evolution. As for the science you are berating, what do you thing created that computer, the telephone, cable, ADSL line you are using?

S c i e n t i f i c Discoveries

3/29/2009 5:26:35 PM



"Did ignorance and dogma bring us the atomic bomb? No. Biological weapons? No. Nerve Gas? Nope"

Computers? no.
Mass-printed Bibles? no.
High-speed transportation? no.
Telecommunications of ANY sort? no.

Science is just a tool for extending the knowledge and intelligence of humans. It is up to the human to decide how to apply it, and blaming science does no good.

3/29/2009 5:34:30 PM

a mind far far away

Sad, pathetic, and ignorant. Such is the fate of the fundy fucktard.

3/29/2009 5:41:50 PM

Siberia

Actually life came from the mighty giant Ymir, who, by his chance, was created at the juncture between Niflheim (cold) and Muspelheim (heat). First his foot bred and had a son, then a woman and a man rose from his armpits. Then he started to sweat and another giant was born from there.

Eventually Ymir woke and drank the milk of the cow Audhumbla while she licked a stone of salt. From that stone rose a man who gave birth to Odin, Vili and Ve, the first gods.

Then they killed Ymir and made the earth with him. So one day they found two tree trunks and made them into humans, Ask & Embla.

Maybe it makes less sense than your goatherder tales, but it's as likely and a lot cooler.

3/29/2009 5:43:27 PM

RavenWood

Don't like science? Get off our Interwebz.

3/29/2009 5:43:28 PM

Old Viking

Ignorance and dogma brought us the occasions to employ those weapons. And evolution has nothing to say about how life began. Thanks for playing.

3/29/2009 5:51:48 PM

fundiesRtehlulz

Except that Louis Pasteur didn't have half the scientific knowledge we have today. Way to be current.

3/29/2009 6:09:00 PM

Jedi Knight

BTW, there's no such thing as a Nobel Prize in biology. Wald won (shared) the Prize in medicine and/or physiology. (There is no Nobel Prize in economics either, but that's another discussion.)

3/29/2009 6:10:04 PM

m52nickerson

Ignorance and Dogma did bring us the Crusades, wars and genocide through out history.

3/29/2009 6:14:37 PM

enna

Evolution and abiogenesis are NOT spontaneous generation.

Jesus pig-raping Fuck.

Get a clue.

3/29/2009 6:20:44 PM

Dio Fa

There is one, and only one, true explanation for the origins of life.


3/29/2009 6:42:09 PM

Anevilmeme

Straw men for Jeezus!


3/29/2009 6:43:17 PM

Porter

What brought you your PC. Douche.

Plus, evolution is basically a fact, what with the variation within species and DNA constantly changing between generations...
The theory of evolution explains this fact.

3/29/2009 6:55:03 PM

Papabear

Did religion bring us antibiotics? Surgery? Democracy? Computers? Flush toilets? Apple pie? Motherhood? etc.

3/29/2009 7:04:24 PM

Wehpudicabok

When you're as ignorant as murf, everything is Orwell's world.

3/29/2009 7:38:38 PM

EvoPagan

So you're a twat and this Wald, if this quote is correct, is a fool. Congratulations. You've finally reached the same level of philosophical musing as a Nobel prize winner.

Unfortunately, in this instance, that's not saying much.

3/29/2009 7:39:19 PM

LDM

No, but ignorance and dogma are the reasons why some people think we need to have those weapons in the first place.

3/29/2009 7:54:34 PM

Zoo

Sorry, George Wald is not an authority on evolutionary theory; his work is with the physical/chemical characteristics of eye pigments. For defense of the theory, may I refer you to the mountains of papers in your nearest university library? Or, should that be a bit out of your league (I don't know what your training is in), there are piles of introductory college books and books written for laymen available either in the university library or probably your local public library.

Woo! Edit button!

Siberia: Maybe it makes less sense than your goatherder tales, but it's as likely and a lot cooler.

I think it makes as much sense. I'm partial to the Aztec version though (at least for the sun), where a lesser ugly god that the pretty gods didn't want to pick (but their choice was too cowardly to jump in), the eagle and the jaguar jumped in a sacred fired to create the sun we live under today. And that's also where the jaguar got its spots and the eagle got it's color, from the soot from the fire. The cowardly god finally jumped in and became the moon.

3/29/2009 8:51:46 PM

freako104

" rather than defend it, anything else must be suppressed"


Funny, I see Bible thumpers do that to everyone.



"Funny how you are all about science but you’re too afraid to defend your theory (fact? Don’t make me laugh. Evolution is unprovable),"


Um,many will show how and where organisms have adapted to their environments or evolved. And it has been proven.



3/29/2009 8:57:02 PM

Blackvoice

Mankind doesn't need fancy weapons to kill each other. The method is not the problem.

3/29/2009 9:12:33 PM
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