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#930828
Katsuro
"Did ignorance and dogma bring us the atomic bomb? No. Biological weapons? No. Nerve Gas? Nope. All science."
You know that computer that you're using to smack-talk science...
3/29/2009 8:10:03 AM
#931140
Shadow Boxer
"Did ignorance and dogma bring us the atomic bomb? No. Biological weapons? No. Nerve Gas? Nope. All science."
Ignorance & dogma just encouraged us to use the underlying science to create these things & use them.
Science is a tool. It can be used or misused by people. It is not inherently good or evil.
3/29/2009 5:10:46 PM
#931142
WMDKitty
Ignorance and dogma also didn't bring us all the GOOD things that science has done. (I'm thinking in terms of medical advances, here.)
3/29/2009 5:12:44 PM
#931143
Zimmer
No, there are hundreds of thousands of ways life could have come into being.
1. Scientific theory of abiogenesis (NOT, mind you, the same as spontaneous generation)
2. Life came into being via a supernatural creative act of Osiris.
3. Life came into being via a supernatural creative act of Odin.
4. Life came into being via Tiamat's body being torn to pieces by Marduk.
5. Life came into being via Yahweh whispering some magic mumbo jumbo, etc.
3/29/2009 5:12:53 PM
#931144
There are only two possibilities as to how life arose; one is spontaneous generation arising to evolution, the other is a supernatural creative act of God, there is no third possibility.
Evolution doesn't deal with how life arose. OK, let's suppose life arose by a supernatural creative act of God. So what? Does that mean evolution didn't occur? Does that mean humans and chimps don't share a common ancestor? Does that mean God still exists, or that the creation was done by one God as opposed to many? Does that mean that there was only one supernatural creative act of God? The argument is useless. That's why trained theologians, as opposed to dumb-ass rednecks, have ignored the argument for the last two centuries.
3/29/2009 5:13:24 PM
#931154
Nowonmai
Nobody here is afraid to defend the theory of evolution. As for the science you are berating, what do you thing created that computer, the telephone, cable, ADSL line you are using?
S c i e n t i f i c Discoveries
3/29/2009 5:26:35 PM
#931165
"Did ignorance and dogma bring us the atomic bomb? No. Biological weapons? No. Nerve Gas? Nope"
Computers? no.
Mass-printed Bibles? no.
High-speed transportation? no.
Telecommunications of ANY sort? no.
Science is just a tool for extending the knowledge and intelligence of humans. It is up to the human to decide how to apply it, and blaming science does no good.
3/29/2009 5:34:30 PM
#931175
a mind far far away
Sad, pathetic, and ignorant. Such is the fate of the fundy fucktard.
3/29/2009 5:41:50 PM
#931176
Siberia
Actually life came from the mighty giant Ymir, who, by his chance, was created at the juncture between Niflheim (cold) and Muspelheim (heat). First his foot bred and had a son, then a woman and a man rose from his armpits. Then he started to sweat and another giant was born from there.
Eventually Ymir woke and drank the milk of the cow Audhumbla while she licked a stone of salt. From that stone rose a man who gave birth to Odin, Vili and Ve, the first gods.
Then they killed Ymir and made the earth with him. So one day they found two tree trunks and made them into humans, Ask & Embla.
Maybe it makes less sense than your goatherder tales, but it's as likely and a lot cooler.
3/29/2009 5:43:27 PM
#931177
RavenWood
Don't like science? Get off our Interwebz.
3/29/2009 5:43:28 PM
#931185
Old Viking
Ignorance and dogma brought us the occasions to employ those weapons. And evolution has nothing to say about how life began. Thanks for playing.
3/29/2009 5:51:48 PM
#931196
fundiesRtehlulz
Except that Louis Pasteur didn't have half the scientific knowledge we have today. Way to be current.
3/29/2009 6:09:00 PM
#931197
Jedi Knight
BTW, there's no such thing as a Nobel Prize in biology. Wald won (shared) the Prize in medicine and/or physiology. (There is no Nobel Prize in economics either, but that's another discussion.)
3/29/2009 6:10:04 PM
#931199
m52nickerson
Ignorance and Dogma did bring us the Crusades, wars and genocide through out history.
3/29/2009 6:14:37 PM
#931201
enna
Evolution and abiogenesis are NOT spontaneous generation.
Jesus pig-raping Fuck.
Get a clue.
3/29/2009 6:20:44 PM
#931208
Dio Fa
There is one, and only one, true explanation for the origins of life.
3/29/2009 6:42:09 PM
#931209
Anevilmeme
Straw men for Jeezus!
3/29/2009 6:43:17 PM
#931214
Porter
What brought you your PC. Douche.
Plus, evolution is basically a fact, what with the variation within species and DNA constantly changing between generations...
The theory of evolution explains this fact.
3/29/2009 6:55:03 PM
#931216
Papabear
Did religion bring us antibiotics? Surgery? Democracy? Computers? Flush toilets? Apple pie? Motherhood? etc.
3/29/2009 7:04:24 PM
#931219
Wehpudicabok
When you're as ignorant as murf, everything is Orwell's world.
3/29/2009 7:38:38 PM
#931220
EvoPagan
So you're a twat and this Wald, if this quote is correct, is a fool. Congratulations. You've finally reached the same level of philosophical musing as a Nobel prize winner.
Unfortunately, in this instance, that's not saying much.
3/29/2009 7:39:19 PM
#931226
LDM
No, but ignorance and dogma are the reasons why some people think we need to have those weapons in the first place.
3/29/2009 7:54:34 PM
#931240
Zoo
Sorry, George Wald is not an authority on evolutionary theory; his work is with the physical/chemical characteristics of eye pigments. For defense of the theory, may I refer you to the mountains of papers in your nearest university library? Or, should that be a bit out of your league (I don't know what your training is in), there are piles of introductory college books and books written for laymen available either in the university library or probably your local public library.
Woo! Edit button!
Siberia: Maybe it makes less sense than your goatherder tales, but it's as likely and a lot cooler.
I think it makes as much sense. I'm partial to the Aztec version though (at least for the sun), where a lesser ugly god that the pretty gods didn't want to pick (but their choice was too cowardly to jump in), the eagle and the jaguar jumped in a sacred fired to create the sun we live under today. And that's also where the jaguar got its spots and the eagle got it's color, from the soot from the fire. The cowardly god finally jumped in and became the moon.
3/29/2009 8:51:46 PM
#931242
freako104
" rather than defend it, anything else must be suppressed"
Funny, I see Bible thumpers do that to everyone.
"Funny how you are all about science but you’re too afraid to defend your theory (fact? Don’t make me laugh. Evolution is unprovable),"
Um,many will show how and where organisms have adapted to their environments or evolved. And it has been proven.
3/29/2009 8:57:02 PM
#931249
Blackvoice
Mankind doesn't need fancy weapons to kill each other. The method is not the problem.
3/29/2009 9:12:33 PM
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