Nadine: I think women have this chip on their shoulder that men should do housework & "help" even when they're very busy working at other
CreedIsChrist: I agree, that attitude is ruining alot of marriages too. Men have so much to worry about like finances, job and boss, family structure, the worry of losing their job, feeding the family and bills, etc. A woman who nags her husband when he comes home obviously has a problem with self-centeredness and disobediance. A God fearing woman would never do such a thing. A husband wants to come home to the support of his wife and his children
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Because obviously women are sitting around all day just waiting for their more valuable husband to grace them with his presence. And her job only lasts from 9-5 also, at 5pm she gets to sit and watch TV and relax the rest of the evening. Uh-huh.
And what if she has her own job? Of course, that is not as valuable either.
And there is no way that she is worrying her little head about paying the bills, putting food on the table, family, kids, etc.
How about giving her a little support when you get home? Acknowledging that she is working just as hard under just as much pressure. And just may need to sit and relax for a while also. Oops, I forgot, that is self-centeredness, nevermind.
I agree, that attitude is ruining a lot of marriages too. Women have so much to worry about like finances, job and boss, family structure, the worry of losing their job, feeding the family and bills, etc. A woman who has to nag her husband to help out when he comes home obviously has a guy who thinks the woman ought to work the same 8 hour day as he and do all the housework, too.
I do all the housework, the only things I ask my husband to do are things I can't physically do because of my health problems. I don't work outside the home. Gosh, but I don't have any children of my own...what the hell...I'm like a traditional but definitely non-traditional woman. Wait, this can't be right, only conservative evangelical southern Baptists have "traditional marriages". WTF??? And neither of us fear god! It's like...like cats and dogs living together!!!1!
What? Isn't Nadine a lady poster though? There's nothing wrong, per-se, with devaluing your own work and deifying whatever it is your spouse does with their time, nor is it actually bad to disapprove (on its own anyway) of what other people do or make judgments about them based on what you see. It's mostly Creed's BS that makes it bad. If I were a stay-at-home spouse, I'd probably be irked if someone else in the occupation somehow violated my philosophy or preconceptions of the job.
Not that I'm ever going to have a job paying well enough to support a stay-at-home spouse.
It's true that a guy who's been working all day shouldn't be grabbed at the door by his stay-at-home wife- "TAKE OUT THE GARBAGE, NOW!"- but it's not about "obedience" or "support".
Can't a woman just care about her husband? Does it all have to come down to submission?
Apparently it does. If you're a fundie. Perhaps *that's* what's ruining a lot of marriages.
Because taking care of a house is so easy.
My mom not only took care of our house, she took care of a bunch of other peoples' houses. Because we needed the effing money.
And who says women don't have financial woes, job issues, etc.? My mom certainly has those now. Women just can't win, can they?
You make it sound like women who request help from their hubbies are sitting around sipping champagne and noshing on bonbons. If both are working (and yes, taking care of the family IS work) why should his end at 5pm... her's sure as hell doesn't! If he dirties a dish, he can sure as hell wash it.
Working woman doesn't mean what you think it means, Creed. This reminds me of old joke.
If I were a man and worked all day, and came home to my wife telling me to help clean, I'd tell her to kiss off.
But both men and women work. So therefor, they're both responsible for the housework when they get home.
The world is not like Leave it to Beaver or Father Knows Best , and it never was. You people are pining away for good ol' days that only ever existed in cheesy 50's sitcoms. In these days a family with a single income is barely scrapping by especially with the current state of the economy, and yet here you are denigrating women who try to provide for their families because they won't stay home and act as a combination maid, cook, and baby factory.
You are, in fact, implying that are not deserving of a life of they're own and that they should only live vicariously through their master... ~ahem~, excuse me... husband. What you present as a "good christian marriage" is little less than slavery.
Do you think the only purpose of for a woman is to help her master husband? Why doesn't it work both ways? Why is the idea of a master husband helping his wife so blasphemous?
I'm glad I never married a god fearing woman, then. I don't do as much around the house as I should, but I do a fair bit. It seems to work. Oh, and she looks after the fimances, 'cause I haven't got a scooby.
What does any of that even mean? Surely men can "worry about like (sic) finances, job and boss, family structure, the worry of losing their job" and do the dishes at the same time ! Worrying about something is not a physical act that needs undivided attention. "Honey, I'll be in my room worrying about my boss for the next hour. No interruption please. It's vitally important I get the worrying just right".
Honestly, men like you are an embarrassment do our gender. Tsk.
A study of the worth of household duties clearly showed that a housewife wouldbe paid almost $100K a year for it, if she were working in the private sector.
That's a shitload of work. So fuck you.
Strange how you two don't seem to think it's self-centred to sit in judgement on everyone else's relationship. Or do your rules not apply to you? A woman who has voluteered to get bupkis for a life of drudgery and domestic servitude doesn't have the right to be unhappy, ever, because it might hurt teh menz poor widdle feelings?
I expect you lot would take a collective dump on the head of any woman who so much as voiced her dissatisfaction with bad weather to her husband.
Sorry, scum, from today on, these roles are reversed! By order from above, you know! So, after you finished working part time GET INTO THE KITCHEN AND MAKE ME A GOOD DINNER! NO, THIS IS NOT GOOD! *smacks*
My home has absolutely no fear of anyone’s god whatsoever; however my marriage is pretty “traditional.” I stayed home when the kid came because what I was making before wasn’t significantly more then childcare would have cost. So why should I get out of bed and go to work if I wasn’t getting decent compensation for doing so? I don’t really expect my husband to do much around the house because he gets up and works all day while I sleep in until I have to feed the kid and take him to school. I do consider the domestic stuff to be my job (if I went to work and he stayed home I wouldn’t do a damn thing around the house either.) My house is clean and I cook every night, so maybe my domestic skills are so good I don’t need to nag my husband for help. But this is just what works for us I don’t assume our arrangement would work for everybody.
What I am not is a submissive woman who leaves all the heavy thinking to the man. I do all the budgeting, the planning and ultimately no money ever gets spent without my stamp of approval. And I’m much better at saving. He means well but if I left that all up to my husband we’d be in the poor house and he knows it. I suppose if I were a submissive God fearing woman I’d just let that happen, I’m so glad I’m not one of those.
"A husband wants to come home to the support of his wife and his children."
Of course, but you assume that women, after a day of child-care and housework, want their husbands to come home and relax while the women continue to do child-care and housework, getting a break only on the weekends when, as they folding the laundry and take care of the kiddies, they can watch hubby mow the lawn, and then they can pack the family off to church.
What a sucky life you aspire to.
Headache: How did you get that picture of me? :P
I'm not the best housekeeper, I'd rather go and do something fun either with my family or friends. I work part time, my husband and kids help. The kids groan about it sometimes, but it's part of life, they live here, they can help. Actually, if everyone just would put away whatever they take out when they are done with it, everyone's job would be easier. I love to cook, but hate to clean up. So I always try to have a nice dinner, TV off and eat together, they clean up and I'll do laundry or something.
It works for us, so mind your own business.
Because women don't work. Women are beasts of burden who should be worked to death.
At least 100 years ago, she could get an early checkout by dying in childbirth.
These are the same people who think beating a dog into submission is the best way to deal with them.
They don't understand love and caring, all they see is a dominance struggle of who's on top.
Posts like this make me so grateful not to be in a "godly" marriage that I can weep. I much prefer being in a relationship where both people contribute what they can and consider each others' feelings. And I'm damned grateful that at just-turned-35, I don't have to worry about having a "problem with disobedience."
Ozzie:
What? How can you forget I took all those pictures that night when we had all that fun?
/bows head in shame - I must NOT have made an impression!
Uh, right, asking your husband to help out with the dishes, or help clear the table, or -- god forbid! -- watch the kids for a bit is "nagging", "self-centeredness" and "disobedient"...
What gets me is, half of this shit was written by a woman.
My boyfriend and I have a rather traditional relationship... In reverse. He stays home with the children, keeps the house and does most of the cooking, and I work full time. I handle the budget, and we do the shopping and things together. The important thing is it WORKS for us. When I get home from work, I help out with dishes, laundry and the kids. I cook dinner some nights. You can't expect one person to do it all unless the other person has two jobs to take up all their time. My thought is, if one is sitting on their ass doing nothing, then both should be sitting on their asses doing nothing. Like I said, it's what works for us.
Tell you what my little naive poppets, you get back to us in 20 years time when you're married, you've got four kids, a part-time job and the house to look after. Let us know then what you think of "nagging" wives and expecting husbands to help.
My mum works and earns more than my dad
they share the household work evenly and their marriage is the happiest i've ever seen
go eat a dick you chauvinistic prick
aha disobediance. sure bud. did you marry your child, or your pet? no? then that word has no place in your relationship.
and what of the woman who comes home worried about their job, and has to face some lazy-ass man who wants to act like an extra child? oh well that doesn't matter, it's all about the man.
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